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#73854 - 12/11/04 07:59 AM Grant Michaels a Racist?
Bornyo Offline
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You be the judge. Roided dude come out of the blue and attack two fine brothers, Bishop & Byron. Saying shit like they don't DESERVE to be in porn. Man, that's so 1861.

Only way this dude can make it up is to fuck Sammura on film.

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#73855 - 12/11/04 08:01 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
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Grant is racist, but i don't see that as a flaw there was a story about it on hardcoregossip a while back.
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#73856 - 12/11/04 08:03 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Bornyo Offline
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Posts: 10321
Quote:

Grant is racist, but i don't see that as a flaw there was a story about it on hardcoregossip a while back.




Could you cut & paste, please. My IP is blocked from that site. (Don't ask me why).

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#73857 - 12/11/04 08:19 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Oh please! Get over yourselves with the racist label! I said those two brothers don't deserve to be in porn and I stick by that. I respect the brothers like Brian Pumper and Tyler Knight that have some class.

There are a LOT of white dudes too that i don't think deserve to be in porn either. But that thread was about Bish and Long. And I commented on their pics that were posted.
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#73858 - 12/11/04 08:22 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Bornyo Offline
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Registered: 09/23/04
Posts: 10321
Quote:

There are a LOT of white dudes too that i don't think deserve to be in porn either.




So what's your position on Garfield? Let me guess - reverse cowgirl.

Anyway, you can make this whole thing go away by fucking Sammura on film. Mike South says she's hot.

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#73859 - 12/11/04 08:25 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA

Here is my post from Hardcoregossip. Actually every site ran it. And everyone responded that my arguement was very valid. People claim I am becoming the white Jesse Jackson.

Reverse Racism in Porn:

Since becoming "Male Talent" one thing has confused me, and in some ways offended me, is the discrepancy in the pay rates offered to female talent for the different types of work offered in the adult industry.

In general the rates for girls will increase as they go from a solo to girl/girl to boy/girl to BBG to anal, etc. and this makes sense for the most part. Where it gets confusing is the increase in female pay rates to do Interracial. "Interracial" in itself is a terrible misnomer in our industry. It applies only to black males on white females, and not visa versa...not to mention that Latin or Asian ethnic groups are simply left out of the interracial equation completely.

How is it that in a seemingly saturated Interracial production pool that girls are given more to work with black guys? Saturation in any other industry should push prices and pay rates down! That's simple economics 101. As a white performer I sometimes lose work out with a girl who would rather make more money doing an IR for another company on that day. Of course that girl will go with the bigger money! But why are companies paying girls more to work with a black guy than to work with a white guy (like me)?

It seems like terrible racial bigotry in what should be a very PC society, no? Consider this -- if girls got higher rates to work with white guys, over black guys, then every black performer would be up in arms and rightly so! We would have Jesse Jackson and Johnny Cochran all up in our faces!!!!

This pay discrepancy can be explained away with 2 terrible explanations:
1) "It's more honorable to work with black guys so we will pay you girls more"...this insults white guys like me (as it would be to black guys if it were the other way around).
2) "Black guys are tough to work with and it's going to ruin you name in porn"...that's an insult to black guys!

There is an easy solution -- equalize the pay rates and do away with the racial bigotry!

Yours In Porn, Grant Michael's.



Edited by Grant_Michaels (12/11/04 08:28 AM)
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#73860 - 12/11/04 08:28 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Kami Andrews Offline
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Posts: 2742
um the rates are the same.
you only get more if its a monster cock. (lex mandingo jack)

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#73861 - 12/11/04 08:30 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Bornyo Offline
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Your post is very well reasoned and logical. It serves well to mask the racial hatred you carry in your heart.

Now fuck Sammura on film.

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#73862 - 12/11/04 08:34 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Quote:

um the rates are the same.
you only get more if its a monster cock. (lex mandingo jack)




You are the FIRST person to ever tell me that, Kami. I know of several agencies and talent that have told me otherwise.

Maybe they have been short-changing you all this time????


Edited by Grant_Michaels (12/11/04 08:37 AM)
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#73863 - 12/11/04 08:40 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Kami Andrews Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
nah i was in the most profitable agency for a year, i know what i get and know what other girls get (far better than you would) some girls do make more than me, im staggered when i hear a girl say her anal rate (again something ive heard first hand countless times) and its a crazy number i would never ask for. (or get)
Im sure there are a few girls who ask for more to do IR or companies that will throw a lot of money at them to do it, but its not the standard. that in mind first IR's catch a pretty penny, but thats it.

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#73864 - 12/11/04 09:09 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
ChickenMaster Offline
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Registered: 07/07/04
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I don't think Grant likes black people because their skin reminds him of poo.

Well I'm here to tell you this, if you eat lots of beets your poo will come out red, like the blood of Christ and that's why I hate Jesus.

Pastor John where are you?


Edited by ChickenMaster (12/11/04 09:22 AM)

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#73865 - 12/11/04 12:14 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Kami Andrews Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
one time my poop was green, i hate the irish (sorry dad)
really Gen should be here

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#73866 - 12/11/04 12:49 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Buttmaster Offline
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Registered: 11/13/04
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Who´s booking Grant Michaels anyway? I´m confused. Could it be because I´m sober and don´t care?
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#73867 - 12/11/04 12:52 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
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Quote:

Quote:

um the rates are the same.
you only get more if its a monster cock. (lex mandingo jack)




You are the FIRST person to ever tell me that, Kami. I know of several agencies and talent that have told me otherwise.

Maybe they have been short-changing you all this time????


Things seem to go over your head kinda easily,I don't dislike you anymore than anyone who claims I have no business where I work or who says they are capable of removing my head .....all that aside seriously Grant,ever consider you might have been told that the rate was different to spare your feelings?
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#73868 - 12/11/04 12:53 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Qreed Offline
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Registered: 11/07/04
Posts: 82
Loc: South side of Naked City
My $.02

Some guys are ugly and have been for decades in porn. Ron Jeremy and he's an icon. You don't have to be buff, shaved, prima punk ass to be in the biz.

The viewer ain't look at dudes anyway, so when its headless shots that's preferable to me. The camera should never focus on the dude unless he's Rocco or Lex, some guy that's a star in this. Plenty of babes to go around I don't know what the shit storm is all about. A guy can't get enough work probably because he's an asshole personality. A pretty boy face, his breath stinks. Drinks too much protein and jizz the chicks hate.

A pretty chick being thrashed by a ugly dude is all aspects of society. Its what people want to see I guess. Pretty chicks want to slum and get paid. Its porn and not so pretty at times.

No one can claim, he or she shouldn't be in porn becuase its a fucked up place where everyone is welcome if they can perform on camera.

Even racists can have a career, most likely place at Vivid.


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#73869 - 12/11/04 05:12 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Smelly Monkey Offline
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Ugly people suck
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#73870 - 12/11/04 05:33 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
melissa Offline
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Registered: 05/02/04
Posts: 797
Quote:

I respect the brothers like Brian Pumper and Tyler Knight that have some class.





Brian classy??? hahahaha. nothing against you Grant, but it s not true.
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#73871 - 12/11/04 05:36 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
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Quote:

Quote:

I respect the brothers like Brian Pumper and Tyler Knight that have some class.





Brian classy??? hahahaha. nothing against you Grant, but it s not true.




What do you mean? you don't like all the Bling bling
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#73872 - 12/11/04 05:40 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Ya know what, Bish? I may have been harsh in my statements of you and Long.. even though this is the Land of the Free (Speech)... it appears that when you say "someone is unattractive in your eyes" you are deemed as a rabid racist(?). I really believe that had I said I found a certain Asian, or Latino, girl unattractive NOTHING would have been said. Monkey calls Gen ugly every day...no one says anything. But... I'm a "racist"???? Whatever.

Bisshy, the "beheading" statement was NOT mine...I just ran with it....for humor. It was tongue-in-cheek....but you have taken it to heart. (Half of the shit on this board is satire)

So....tell you what. I will apologize to you if i may have offended you in any way. I was just expressing my freedom of speech.

Fighting on a message board is silly anyway. (I have a hard time understanding what the fuck you are trying to say anyway). Fighting in person is reality and something I actually enjoy... but that is irrelevant here.

But we do need to end this.

So again, I apologize for hurting your feelings.
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#73873 - 12/11/04 05:44 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Quote:

Quote:

I respect the brothers like Brian Pumper and Tyler Knight that have some class.





Brian classy??? hahahaha. nothing against you Grant, but it s not true.




Well Melissa, I have never fucked Brian...nor will i ever. No idea how he is in a scene.

But one-on-one he was well spoken and respectable.

Care to elaborate on how he was NOT classy with you?
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#73874 - 12/11/04 05:51 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
angry midget Offline
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Registered: 12/02/04
Posts: 2
Melissa doesn't know what she is talking about (like most French people) how could you not find this classy?



Bling Man in the hizzy-houze (that's how all the cool kids are talking now)


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#73875 - 12/11/04 06:50 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
melissa Offline
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Registered: 05/02/04
Posts: 797
Quote:

Well Melissa, I have never fucked Brian...nor will i ever. No idea how he is in a scene.

But one-on-one he was well spoken and respectable.

Care to elaborate on how he was NOT classy with you?




I wasn t even talking about the scenes. just him.
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#73876 - 12/11/04 06:54 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Smelly Monkey Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
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Meliss hates everyone, its bred into them at an early age in france.
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#73877 - 12/11/04 07:05 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
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Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Quote:


I wasn t even talking about the scenes. just him.




I am sorry he disrespected you. He was very nice to me.

If you (only)like a man who can stay hard and fuck even harder...i have heard Brian is very solid? So, what gives?
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#73878 - 12/11/04 07:37 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Rico Offline
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Registered: 12/11/04
Posts: 22
Loc: Buenos Aires
Quote:


Here is my post from Hardcoregossip. Actually every site ran it. And everyone responded that my arguement was very valid. People claim I am becoming the white Jesse Jackson.

Reverse Racism in Porn:

Since becoming "Male Talent" one thing has confused me, and in some ways offended me, is the discrepancy in the pay rates offered to female talent for the different types of work offered in the adult industry.

In general the rates for girls will increase as they go from a solo to girl/girl to boy/girl to BBG to anal, etc. and this makes sense for the most part. Where it gets confusing is the increase in female pay rates to do Interracial. "Interracial" in itself is a terrible misnomer in our industry. It applies only to black males on white females, and not visa versa...not to mention that Latin or Asian ethnic groups are simply left out of the interracial equation completely.

How is it that in a seemingly saturated Interracial production pool that girls are given more to work with black guys? Saturation in any other industry should push prices and pay rates down! That's simple economics 101. As a white performer I sometimes lose work out with a girl who would rather make more money doing an IR for another company on that day. Of course that girl will go with the bigger money! But why are companies paying girls more to work with a black guy than to work with a white guy (like me)?

It seems like terrible racial bigotry in what should be a very PC society, no? Consider this -- if girls got higher rates to work with white guys, over black guys, then every black performer would be up in arms and rightly so! We would have Jesse Jackson and Johnny Cochran all up in our faces!!!!

This pay discrepancy can be explained away with 2 terrible explanations:
1) "It's more honorable to work with black guys so we will pay you girls more"...this insults white guys like me (as it would be to black guys if it were the other way around).
2) "Black guys are tough to work with and it's going to ruin you name in porn"...that's an insult to black guys!

There is an easy solution -- equalize the pay rates and do away with the racial bigotry!

Yours In Porn, Grant Michael's.






What? Dude, if the porn girls do get higher rates to start doing IR, then it's a direct result of the way that the porn industry markets its products to the consumers. It has nothing to do with white guys being discriminated against. Does HGH kill brain cells too? Not that I want to hear anyone boohooing about racism, but I'd give some credence to the black guys complaining about people that won't work with them or companies that won't hire them regardless of whether they pass the Grant Michaels' test for being classy or not. It's funny that you mentioned "class" because your entire exchange with Bishop has demonstrated the fact that you are a classless, tactless, egotistical piece of shit.
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#73879 - 12/11/04 07:59 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
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yikes!grant and i flamed each other pretty good for a couple days but it was just fun on a message board.At no point did I think Grant was going to behead me and I hope he knows Ive never stabbed anyone(although Gen begs to differ)Lets not judge plus just like he started it he ended it and even reversed some of his opinions.That shows class.How often does anybody admit they could be mistaken around here?some would flame the earth black first.
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#73880 - 12/11/04 08:13 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Grant_Michaels Offline
Max Hardcore Prison Bitch

Registered: 11/09/04
Posts: 277
Loc: LA
Rico, you're obviously not in porn as talent? Hence your misconceivings about black guys NOT getting enough work. They work PLENTY more than most white talent i know! Perhaps that's enough to make most white guys jealous?

Insult me all you want "Rico" (in your first any only ever post here)....but at least i have the balls to apologize to Bishop.



Edited by Grant_Michaels (12/11/04 08:15 PM)
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#73881 - 12/11/04 08:15 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Smelly Monkey Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 8662
Loc: In a k1ng like state of medioc...
Im guessing rico isn't new here, call it a hunch.
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#73882 - 12/11/04 08:19 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
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Registered: 07/23/04
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Loc: United States
Hey Grant U gotta love it when people resign up under new handles just to talk shit to U, I get it all the time
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#73883 - 12/11/04 09:40 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Rico Offline
Stormy's Lawyer

Registered: 12/11/04
Posts: 22
Loc: Buenos Aires
Quote:

Im guessing rico isn't new here, call it a hunch.





I am new here Monkey, but I'm not a stranger to you. Our last throat gagging session was so awesome that I left you a rose on your pillow. Don't tell me you've forgotten so quickly.

For the record I don't think that Grant is a racist, but his bad attitude has forever ruined my fantasies about being ass-rammed by him. I'm turning all of my attention to John Garfield.
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#73884 - 12/11/04 11:05 PM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Rico Offline
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Registered: 12/11/04
Posts: 22
Loc: Buenos Aires
Quote:

Rico, you're obviously not in porn as talent? Hence your misconceivings about black guys NOT getting enough work. They work PLENTY more than most white talent i know! Perhaps that's enough to make most white guys jealous?





Sounds like you are jealous of the "darker" negroid meat. Perhaps this is indicative of a desire for a black penis on your part.

Give Greg Anderson my best.
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#73885 - 12/12/04 02:09 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Smelly Monkey Offline
Porn Jesus

Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 8662
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Ohh okay, well welcome to the board then rico.
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#73886 - 12/12/04 05:42 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
Kami Andrews Offline
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Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 2742
i dont care who he is im loving the Rico.

i think anyone who wants to beat anyone up at avn is a big silly head.

I have to agree with Melissa on the Brian pumper thing, when i read GM call him classy pop actually came out of my nose. but i didnt say anything cause i wanted to see bish make him cry.

that was a half ass apology with a fight threat included and hes patting himself on the back?

turds

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#73887 - 12/13/04 06:41 AM Re: Grant Michaels a Racist?
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Registered: 11/14/04
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Quote:

Oh please! Get over yourselves with the racist label! I said those two brothers don't deserve to be in porn and I stick by that. I respect the brothers like Brian Pumper and Tyler Knight that have some class.

There are a LOT of white dudes too that i don't think deserve to be in porn either. But that thread was about Bish and Long. And I commented on their pics that were posted.




I would love to kick you square in the balls you dumb steroid laiden cunt.
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