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#68798 - 11/10/04 07:05 AM Cal Jammer memorial thread
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Cal was the forerunner of today's Steve Hatchers and Dave Hardmans -- a ready-to-go hunk who was willing to do anything at any time with anyone. From low-rent gang bang tapes to pro-ams to polished big-budget porn, Cal put a gun to his head and blew his brains out on January 25, 1995. He was 34 years old.


kinda looks like tom byron here


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#68799 - 11/10/04 07:12 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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That moustache is gay.
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#68800 - 11/10/04 07:59 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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gay people have appropriated facial hair. same with muscles, naval uniforms, evil angel movies...i could go on....
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#68801 - 11/10/04 08:02 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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You have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head. Especially considering most people fuck it up and end up in a home because they blew away 25% of their brain.

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#68802 - 11/10/04 08:04 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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hey, garfield's doing just fine with his 25%
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#68803 - 11/10/04 09:15 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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ta think he did it cuz jill kelly dumped him.
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#68804 - 11/10/04 11:54 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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That moustache is gay.




Shouldn't have said that... now if garfield and figure how to flex a mustache he will have to grow one...
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#68805 - 11/10/04 06:40 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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That moustache is gay.




Shouldn't have said that... now if garfield and figure how to flex a mustache he will have to grow one...




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#68806 - 11/10/04 08:00 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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cal looks a lot like someone else i know, im not going to name names,


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#68807 - 11/11/04 02:09 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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I beg to differ & Jamesn...Fuck U Biatch
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#68808 - 11/11/04 02:46 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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dude, it was too easy-i can't resist home-run derby pitches like that.
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#68809 - 11/11/04 05:11 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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You have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head.




Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?
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#68810 - 11/11/04 06:48 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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You have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head.




Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?





not to be cruel, but just look at eva angelina's ex might've seen. it's depressing:




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#68811 - 11/11/04 08:34 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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You have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head.




Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?





I could imagine blowing my brains out if it was either die from a firing squad or take this .45 and do it yourself. At least when you do it yourself you can say something like, " my revenge will live past my death." *Boom*

To do it over a chick though just seems stupid. Plenty of fish in the sea. Time heals all wounds... all that stupid shit is true. It's been proven time and time again people who pull the trigger have other depression problems weighing in on them. They just use someone else as a catalyst for a selfish out.

You create your own hell, try to enjoy it.

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#68812 - 11/11/04 10:55 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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You create your own hell, try to enjoy it.




Is this one of yours? I love it.
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#68813 - 11/11/04 11:52 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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Quote:

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You have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head.




Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?





I could imagine blowing my brains out if it was either die from a firing squad or take this .45 and do it yourself. At least when you do it yourself you can say something like, " my revenge will live past my death." *Boom*

To do it over a chick though just seems stupid. Plenty of fish in the sea. Time heals all wounds... all that stupid shit is true. It's been proven time and time again people who pull the trigger have other depression problems weighing in on them. They just use someone else as a catalyst for a selfish out.

You create your own hell, try to enjoy it.




Okay, but that's not what you said, and that's not what I asked. Just curious. Remove girls from the equation. Obviously depression is usually an underlying factor, but that is kind of my point.

I too think it's silly, from my prespective, to shoot one's self over a girl. But there are any number of situations, sans firing squad, that could be imagined, with which to answer my question.

Please disregard any situation in which imminent death is a condition no matter what you do.

My question still stands, unanswered.
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#68814 - 11/11/04 11:54 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My answer would be no. I like me too much.
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#68815 - 11/11/04 12:01 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My answer would be no. I like me too much.




Answer to what?

This was my question: Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?

I didn't ask if you could imagine any situation in which you would kill yourself. I asked if you thought you could imagine every type of human toment well enough to say for sure you could never kill yourself.

Enough. My point is, that to say what CM said is arrogant, and a huge failure of imagination. You have no idea how you might react to some of the worst misery available.

I'm not talking about being upset over a breakup. I'm talking about the huge, and immature, generalization that you have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head.
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#68816 - 11/11/04 12:10 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My bad Toe.
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#68817 - 11/11/04 12:17 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My bad Toe.





NO! I'm not trying to chastize you.

Really. I like CM, and you. I just wanted to get CM in a conversation about it. You're welcome too.

On second thought, you may be right. This isn't the place. I think there is a huge stick in my ass today. Sorry.

Oh well, I'll take my foot out of my mouth.

I just had a friend kill himself last year. I couldn't imagine being in his position, about which I will not elaborate.

Back to porn.
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#68818 - 11/11/04 12:21 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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Answer to what?

This was my question: Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?

I didn't ask if you could imagine any situation in which you would kill yourself. I asked if you thought you could imagine every type of human torment well enough to say for sure you could never kill yourself.

Enough. My point is, that to say what CM said is arrogant, and a huge failure of imagination. You have no idea how you might react to some of the worst misery available.

I'm not talking about being upset over a breakup. I'm talking about the huge, and immature, generalization that you have to be a bitch to put a gun to your head.




I think I found a button.

" Do you believe that you can imagine every type of human torment well enough to say that you would not do the same if in the same position?"

No I would never claim I could imagine every type of human torment. The only time I could imagine terminating myself is if I felt it was necessary to save someone I cared enough for. As far as mental or physical pain due to loss, deaseas, cancer or etc. I would not terminate myself for those reasons.

"Enough. My point is, that to say what CM said is arrogant, and a huge failure of imagination. You have no idea how you might react to some of the worst misery available."

My comment had no lack of imagination within context of "killing myself because my girlfriend broke up with me."

In the light you have changed it to. Yes I agree it would have lacked imagination and would have been arrogant, but I never said it in your context. You need to rationalize your thoughts.

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#68819 - 11/11/04 12:24 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My thoughts were very rational. I changed nothing. In fact, I made a point to keep it clear. My context was clear.

No I would never claim I could imagine every type of human torment. . . .

My only point is that if this is true, then what you said is silly.

You need to think about what you say before you say it. Seems to be a theme . . . .



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#68820 - 11/11/04 12:36 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My bad Toe.





NO! I'm not trying to chastize you.

Really. I like CM, and you. I just wanted to get CM in a conversation about it. You're welcome too.

On second thought, you may be right. This isn't the place. I think there is a huge stick in my ass today. Sorry.

Oh well, I'll take my foot out of my mouth.

I just had a friend kill himself last year. I couldn't imagine being in his position, about which I will not elaborate.

Back to porn.




Well while one can ever speak in absolutes. I can't think of a situation in which I would commit suicide. By that statement, I am speaking only for myself.
At the same time no one can foresee all the evils that could befall them. I also concede there are things in life that make death not the worst thing in some peoples minds. Long term debilitive / terminal illness comes to mind.
I hope your mind recovers from the sadness you feel now.
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#68821 - 11/11/04 12:37 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My thoughts were very rational. I changed nothing. In fact, I made a point to keep it clear. My context was clear.

No I would never claim I could imagine every type of human torment. . . .

My only point is that if this is true, then what you said is silly.

You need to think about what you say before you say it. Seems to be a theme . . . .








Okay I'm tired and have too much on my mind.

I was thinking of the Tragic news for Eva Angelina thread.

Suicided nevertheless is not a solution but rather a way out. Putting a gun to your head because of problems in your life is lack of imagination within itself. I'm sorry about your friend, death is always a hard thing to deal with but don't validate suicided with unimaginable grievances, everything can be corrected with time and therepy. Testimonials of people who have survived suicide have proven this time and time again.

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#68822 - 11/11/04 12:52 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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At the same time no one can foresee all the evils that could befall them. I also concede there are things in life that make death not the worst thing in some peoples minds. Long term debilitive / terminal illness comes to mind.





I don't think you need to know specifics about situations to know how you will handle under stress. I only say this because in certain situations I've been in its the stress that has caused me to act irrationally not the situation itself.

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#68823 - 11/11/04 12:55 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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You need to think about what you say before you say it. Seems to be a theme . . . .




That's what four hours of sleep in two day's will do to you. Everything I think is becoming a cloudy mess all piled into one heap. I would have done a lot better if there wasn't two threads with the same theme going.

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#68824 - 11/11/04 02:57 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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My thoughts were very rational. I changed nothing. In fact, I made a point to keep it clear. My context was clear.

No I would never claim I could imagine every type of human torment. . . .

My only point is that if this is true, then what you said is silly.

You need to think about what you say before you say it. Seems to be a theme . . . .






I know what you mean toe. I was suicidally depressed for about 20 years and I really got tired of listening to every know-it-all say "snap out of it" or "go out and find something to do." A few of them have no idea how lucky they are to be alive.
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#68825 - 11/11/04 03:07 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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I know what you mean toe. I was suicidally depressed for about 20 years and I really got tired of listening to every know-it-all say "snap out of it" or "go out and find something to do." A few of them have no idea how lucky they are to be alive.




What helped you get over your depression? Was it time? Counseling? Drugs?

I never said you should just get over it. I'm trying to say that suicide is unimaginative and a easy way out of your situation. You didn't commit suicide... are you happy you didn't? Or do you think your problems would have been solved a lot quicker by painting the wall with your brain. Suicide is a bitch way out not only because you never find a resolution to the issue you had, you also hurt the lives of others around you. Therefor making you life's bitch. Get out easy and everyone else pays the price.

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#68826 - 11/11/04 03:16 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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I know what you mean toe. I was suicidally depressed for about 20 years and I really got tired of listening to every know-it-all say "snap out of it" or "go out and find something to do." A few of them have no idea how lucky they are to be alive.




What helped you get over your depression? Was it time? Counseling? Drugs?

I never said you should just get over it. I'm trying to say that suicide is unimaginative and a easy way out of your situation. You didn't commit suicide... are you happy you didn't? Or do you think your problems would have been solved a lot quicker by painting the wall with your brain. Suicide is a bitch way out not only because you never find a resolution to the issue you had, you also hurt the lives of others around you. Therefor making you life's bitch. Get out easy and everyone else pays the price.




Got over it with Prozac. A lot of depressed people are that way only because their neurons don't fire properly. There's no imaginative solution our of that sort of situation. If there hadn't been Prozac I probably wouldn't be typing this right now.

As far as being happy about not offing myself, I don't think it really matters. I'm not depressed, but all my formative years were spent immersed in depression so I didn't really develop properly, emotionally, socially, or psychologically.

In my case, there was not only person who reached out their hand to help, at least not in any meaningful way. My parents are useless, so I really would have no compunction about hurting them. They are non-entities.
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#68827 - 11/11/04 03:21 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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Got over it with Prozac. A lot of depressed people are that way only because their neurons don't fire properly. There's no imaginative solution our of that sort of situation. If there hadn't been Prozac I probably wouldn't be typing this right now.

As far as being happy about not offing myself, I don't think it really matters. I'm not depressed, but all my formative years were spent immersed in depression so I didn't really develop properly, emotionally, socially, or psychologically.

In my case, there was not only person who reached out their hand to help, at least not in any meaningful way. My parents are useless, so I really would have no compunction about hurting them. They are non-entities.




Thank you Zen, I appreciate that perspective.

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#68828 - 11/11/04 03:23 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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Oh, it's nothing.
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#68829 - 11/11/04 05:44 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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try telling it to cal jammer

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#68830 - 11/11/04 05:48 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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cal jackhammer isn't dead, like tupac and elvis he is still alive, except like those other 2 he didn't have millions to sit back on so he had to return to porn under the alias of JOHN GARFIELD. im calling it early.
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#68831 - 11/11/04 05:55 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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actually, i heard he was sighted like a sasquatch.
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#68832 - 11/11/04 05:58 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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No No I saw him sitting next to Elvis and Big Foot on the UFO.
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#68833 - 11/12/04 03:35 AM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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Well, even a good night's sleep changes my perspective to such a degree that I wouldn't dare stating how I would or would not react to certain levels of suffering.

CM, I apologize for anything I said that was rude. You and I just have a disagreement, and it probably doesn't belong in our wonderful forum that celebrates comedy, pussy, and in my case, feet.

I just think it is folly to say that you know what you would or would not do if you found yourself in say, acute, relentless, accelerating pain that no painkiller could touch.

I'm certainly not saying suicide is the right thing to do. But for some, well I certainly don't think less of them.

Zen, I can relate to what you write. I have taken many SSRI's.

As far as the topic of this thread, , thank god for porn!

Oh wait . . . .
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#68834 - 11/12/04 09:04 PM Re: Cal Jammer memorial thread
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CM, I apologize for anything I said that was rude.




No worries dude, it was interesting. Don't apologize to me, I'm a self serving delusional self righteous nut job.

I needed some sleep as well at that point.

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