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#68515 - 11/09/04 06:57 AM
The Invention of MDMA or Ecstasy
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Porn Jesus
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In case you are an x-head who didn't know: MDMA was patented in 1913 (patent #274.350) by the German chemical company Merck supposedly to be sold as a diet pill (the patent does not mention any intended use), the company decided against marketing the drug and had nothing more to do with it. The US army experimented with MDMA in 1953, possibly as truth serum, they have not revealed their reasons. http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa980311.htm
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#68517 - 11/09/04 06:02 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 04/21/04
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Sounds like a killer SSRI.  I'll take two. Nah, I haven't taken X since I was 25. Shit, that's only three years ago. Oh well, it depressed me after much more than it made me happy during. I got off monumentally well the first few times I took it. But afetr that I could never get that I'm enlightened now leave me alone while I talk to god feeling back. One time in college I did wake up naked in a bush on the UT campus after taking five X pills, a 1/4 oz of shrooms, a few hits of blotter, and smoking a bunch of opium. I don't remember much except that the world turned into a grid of tiny geometrically placed red dots. My tounge was so raw for weeks I couldn't drink water. I won't say why there was blood on my walls. Ahh, college . . . .
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#68518 - 11/10/04 03:39 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/26/03
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Loc: Roma, Repubblica Italiana
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#68520 - 11/10/04 06:18 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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i can't imagine doing tons and tons of hallucinogens, they're such a commitment. plus, i think i'd end up at a decent disjoint from society if they didn't see open-eye visuals 20-hours a day too.
i figure i want to do the fulfilling life thing for another 40 years, then when the kids are out of the house and into therapy or alternative lifestyles---i'm retiring a despicable junkie. no commitments= no dopesickness and nobody suspects the old guy.
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#68522 - 11/10/04 07:13 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 07/23/04
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It was used for psychotherapy here not that long ago, and it was legal. The information I found made no mention of this earlier connection. These was some show, also, TLC or.. that made the same claim.  Or again have I come upon a fork in the road and taken the spoon.
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#68523 - 11/10/04 07:56 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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It was used for psychotherapy here not that long ago, and it was legal. The information I found made no mention of this earlier connection. These was some show, also, TLC or.. that made the same claim.  Or again have I come upon a fork in the road and taken the spoon.
Check it out: http://www.maps.org/mdma/
I could write a couple thousand pages about this drug. Pretty much summed up I wouldn't condone the medical use of the drug. The street use is another matter. This drug is usually badly produced and in unregulated doses carries bad side effects. Same goes for LSD. All drugs have side effects made worse by unregulated doses.
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#68524 - 11/10/04 07:58 PM
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Demon Spawn
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P.S. I read about the theory of reciprocity. Interesting stuff.
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#68525 - 11/10/04 07:58 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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the only health risk from quality opiates is overdose.
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#68526 - 11/10/04 08:03 PM
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Demon Spawn
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the only health risk from quality opiates is overdose.
General effects of narcotic analgesics include: sedation, slowed reflexes, raspy speech, sluggish "rubber-like" movements, slowed breathing, cold skin, and possible vomiting. However, as a user continues to abuse narcotic analgesics he or she will build a tolerance to the drug, therefore causing the effects to diminish. Heroin, a very strong narcotic depressant, completely destroys the users ability to reason. Its synthetic form, known as "designer drug" has been proven to be even more deadly and addictive. If the abuser wishes to maintain the same effect, he or she will have to take steadily larger doses as the tolerance develops.
Heroin users generally experience certain psychological effects immediately after injection. These include a feeling of euphoria: relief from withdrawal symptoms: and, relief from pain. Physical effects, if they are evident at all, typically will become evident after 15-30 minutes. Physical effects may not be evident if the user is tolerant and has taken a normal dose. With new users, the physical effects include: nodding off, poor motor coordination, depressed reflexes, and slow breathing.
If a user is addicted to opiates he or she will suffer withdrawal symptoms if they don't receive another dose, or "fix", before the drug is completely out of their system. Withdrawal effects can be chills, aches of the muscles and joints, nausea and insomnia. These symptoms normally start 4-6 hours after the last dosage of the drug. The withdrawal signs and symptoms intensify from 14-24 hours following the injection, and may be accompanied by gooseflesh, slight tremors, loss of appetite and dilation of the pupils. Approximately 24-36 hours since the last "fix", the addict experiences insomnia, vomiting, diarrhea, weakness, depression and hot/cold flashes. Withdrawal signs and symptoms generally reach their peak after 2-3 days. At this point, the addict usually experiences muscular and abdominal cramps, elevated temperature and severe tremors and twitching. This twitching, especially of the legs, is referred to in the expression "kickin' the habit". The addict is very nauseated at this time, may gag and vomit repeatedly, and may lose 10-15 pounds within 24 hours.
Signs of an overdose of narcotic analgesics are depress respiration, slow and shallow breathing, clammy skin, convulsions, possible coma and death.
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#68527 - 11/10/04 11:49 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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unless you overdose, opiate use doesn't affect lifespan or mental acuity.
the first list of nasty stuff listed are temporary side effects, the second is withdrawl and getting dopesick. the thing is, despite the dramatics of the symptoms you can tie a heroin addict to a lampost, come back three days later and find them alive, the same isn't always true when it comes to serious drinkers or housewives who eat benzos like cookiemonster. BP-up, heart go pop. me garfield. roar.
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#68528 - 11/11/04 12:11 AM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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unless you overdose, opiate use doesn't affect lifespan or mental acuity.
the first list of nasty stuff listed are temporary side effects, the second is withdrawl and getting dopesick. the thing is, despite the dramatics of the symptoms you can tie a heroin addict to a lampost, come back three days later and find them alive, the same isn't always true when it comes to serious drinkers or housewives who eat benzos like cookiemonster. BP-up, heart go pop. me garfield. roar.
Specific risks depending on form of administration:
If snorted: damage to the nasal septum and mucous membranes.
If smoked: damage to bronchial tubes and lungs
If injected: inflamed veins and, in the case of contaminated injection needles and pumps, infectious diseases (hepatitis C, HIV, AIDS, fungal and bacterial infections).
General risks:
With regular use, damage to the organs may occur due to impurities in the heroin, constipation and decreased sex drive. The intensity of the effect continuously decreases and so the dose has to be increased constantly in order to attain the same effect (development of tolerance). Regular injection, snorting or smoking of heroin may result in addiction (psychological dependency). With daily use, there is also the risk of the development of physical dependency, resulting in withdrawal symptoms when heroin is not used (running nose, tears in the eyes, restlessness and anxiety, shivering, diarrhoea, vomiting, disturbed sleep).
When the money is sporadic the symptoms are constant. No junkey can keep the money flowing forever.
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#68529 - 11/11/04 02:37 AM
Re: The Invention of MDMA or Ecstasy
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
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there's something between mormonism and street junkie. if you're using something with the physical addiction pattern h has on a daily basis, you had to get there somewhere and it wasn't 0-100mph. either you're the type who gets their license taken away and reinstated every 8 months because you can't figure out how to not drive like an asshole or you are a free being. if the latter is true, you had tons of chances to get off the highway and chose self-destruction. lots of those people who aren't so mentally helpless as the guy who commits a third felony usually are in some kind of discomfort we can't understand. if lexapro worked, there wouldn't be scotch or smack. if you're really hurt, really narcoleptic, etc. the best doctors in the country will all prescribe opiates and desoxyn, which are street drugs with a safety-seal.
the vast majority of people who were "well" when they tried hard drugs are not deranged homeless people. sammurah is fighting an alley rat for a peice of bologna as i write this and she's sober.
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#68530 - 11/11/04 10:31 AM
Re: The Invention of MDMA or Ecstasy
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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there's something between mormonism and street junkie. if you're using something with the physical addiction pattern h has on a daily basis, you had to get there somewhere and it wasn't 0-100mph. either you're the type who gets their license taken away and reinstated every 8 months because you can't figure out how to not drive like an asshole or you are a free being. if the latter is true, you had tons of chances to get off the highway and chose self-destruction. lots of those people who aren't so mentally helpless as the guy who commits a third felony usually are in some kind of discomfort we can't understand. if lexapro worked, there wouldn't be scotch or smack. if you're really hurt, really narcoleptic, etc. the best doctors in the country will all prescribe opiates and desoxyn, which are street drugs with a safety-seal.
the vast majority of people who were "well" when they tried hard drugs are not deranged homeless people. sammurah is fighting an alley rat for a peice of bologna as i write this and she's sober.
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