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By the way, Melissa I'm not actually on an anti-French trip here. I just couldn't stand by while you try to claim the moral high ground for France, when history speaks otherwise Surely getting rid of a tyrannical dictator like Saddam Hussein, with the clearly stated intention of eventually withdrawing and allowing the people of Iraq to govern themselves democratically, is a better reason to fight a war than denying a country it's independence?




Democracy is the icing on the money cake. No country has or will ever be run on the morality of the suburban philosopher or intellectual.
France is a heavy offender in a lot of ways and covers it up with criticism and misguided morality screamed at the top of it's politicians lungs.
Old Iraq is gone not due to the need for democracy but for the need of resources. All good, I'm for Roman conquest and power strategy but I always find the Democratic sugarcoating difficult to swallow.



Of course the democracy aspect was an afterthought - the simple consequence of ousting a dictator and needing to replace him with something, rather than the motivation for the war. We could debate what Bush's real reasons for getting rid of Saddam were, but my point was simply that whatever the motivation, getting rid of Saddam and replacing him with a democracy must surely be a good thing. Whether it was worth a war, and the associated loss of life is debatable.
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