I don't think Ford is in bed with ADT. I think he asked Gen that question because he is fascinated, as are we all, with women who submit themselves to abuse. There is no doubt in my mind that Ford appreciates xxxporntalk for being the true and honest epicenter of modern porn thought that it is. ADT, by comparison, is a PR bureaocracy keeping anything real or truthful at bey with Nero's fiddle. The only thing ADT has on xxxporntalk is a slightly less sociopathic membership and better grammar, punctuation, and paragraph separation. I'm not saying that the members here have a clearer understanding of the truth, but that they are allowed to stumble into it more often here because of the diametrically different priorities of the moderators (no less self-serving than ADT).