"Don't you fuckin' look at me!! Donny wants to fuuuuuuuuuuuck!!!"

I feel in these trying times, this board needs me.

You accuse others off demagoguery but continue to throw around a term like "Marxist" without knowing what it means. Have you studied Marx? Read any of his actual literature? Or Mao? Having a social welfare state from taxes isn't communism in any definition of the word. The United States has a comparatively weak social safety net compared to a lot of the industrialized world and what you consider far left would be looked at as center right in a lot of the world. Bill Clinton was right of Richard Nixon on a good amount of policy. We had work to welfare, the explosion of the prison population. He was even going to propose his own privatization of social security before people found out a fat little piggy was sucking his dick under his desk and stuffing cigars up her turd cutter. If you want to have a serious conversation about these topics you should really stop using that word.

^ Meh. He calls Democrats "marxists". Democrats call him "fascist". I'm happy there's R's that question Drumpf and Dems who rejected $hillary.

Welcome back. Don't take shit so personally this time.

Hey! The return of License Plate. Yee-haw!

All we need is Fiend back. Did he self-deport or was he banned?

^ I never banned him, much to his chagrin. Self-deport.

I think if you look at things objectively people who have communist tendencies in general blame the worlds problems on the people on the top. Whole people with facist tendencies tend to blame the worlds problem on immigrants and other marginalized groups. You could say both are scapegoating but which would you say is happening more right now?

I'd say that the biggest problem facing the United States and, indeed, the World, is getting rid of Drumpf and, to that end, I'm not in favor of scapegoating anybody.


"If Hitler invaded Hell i would at least make a favorable reference to the Devil in the House of Commons."

---some guy who knew from fighting Nazis, Fascists, and Communists

Board seems to be post eating?

Hahaha or not, fuck. Maybe I should stay gone

I've been trying to post a well thought out quote from a shyster lawyer from
Another board, you could call him the anti vice admiral but it keeps disappearing. I'll try to simplify it in my own crude way. The essence of his argument was that the supposed left wing media doesn't really ever challenge war because it's good for ratings. As we will are hearing about fake news and the medias war on trump, they actually love trump. The more he screams and scowls the better the war image will be of American dead. The American hero soldiers image with the casket draped with the American flag. We can debate health care while we ramp up for the next round of bombs to be dropped on civilians in the Middle East and central Asia. It gives the political media pundit class the fodder they need to write articles.

There is a 20 minute video about how all these cuts to social programs directly make Paul Ryan rich on majority report but I'm not going to attempt to post a YouTube link.

YouTube still works. The copy and paste conflict relates often to quote marks and apostrophes. They can't be the slanted marks, they have to be the more vertical ones seen above. You have to go through the paste and edit these all out.

When you say slanted marks you mean italics? I edited it to just have a quote box and it was still being gobbled up.

No the quotation marks and apostrophes themselves. If you're pasting text into the quote box, go through the text, delete the pasted marks and replace them, manually, with new ones. They have to be straight, not the curved type seen in some fonts.


Edit: BTW, TUP, Sorry I didn't know the answer to this when you were trying to post that section of the US Coude you were attempting a while back. Steez actually posted the answer later that night or the next day, and I figured you'd seen it.

Similarly, I see all this Russian kerfluffel as a distraction from the draconian shit being done.

Hey ceramic god faggot:

Go fuck yourself you worthless, diseased twat of a human being. Step on a landmine, throw a grenade in your pants, drink ebola, anything.

I fucked my hand last night, while watching amateur throatfucking on a tube site. Does that count as fucking myself?

On Edit: I guess voting for Drumpf would be fucking yourself unless you are a Millionaire.

You forgot short-sighted environmental de-regulation and sucking Wall Street cocks.

This HR1313 bill might just be even more horrifying than the Republican health care bill and it's managed to fly under the radar.

The worst possible thing about slashing the EPA is the so called "brownfield sites" that won't get cleaned up. Conservatives talk a lot about "unintended consequences" and "personal responsibility" yet they don't seem to understand the real world externalities left in the wake of corporate pollution that the tax payer is left holding the bag for. If only we had stronger regulation to force companies to pay to clean up their own messes, oops I forgot, that's horrible regulation in the way of the free market.


We also seem to have a ticking time bomb in the way of lead in our drinking water. There's literally hundreds of cities that are even worse than flint that won't be cleaned up. How many more generations of violent brain damaged children are we going to tolerate?

Comsidering how little money is actually spent on social programs and environmental regulations (I think something like $45 of your yearly taxes go to welfare and food stamps) how can BACKDOOR MAN continue to accuse the democrats of being "far left" when a good portion of them just bow to the same corporate donors as the right. Especially when we are not only going to slash social spending, but add 54 billion dollars ON TOP of the yearly military budget?

Marx and democrats.

More if you dare read

Cultural marxism

Idiotology and radical Islam

CxGXPx comes back and immdeiately attacks me by being a condescending narcissistic know it all putz. My reading level at least let me discern that. I will not interact with this stupid motherfucker.

BTW, really stupid fucking meme Chuck.

C'mon. Derision is good for the soul, and both sides are doing it...

I hope you die and come back as Panzer's turtle, swimming around in tranny enema spew.

LOL^ ......ugh!!!!

You'll notice that I kept my question as flat as possible in tone, while back doorman's response immediately went into the hostile realm with "stupid mother fucker blah blah", you should keep that in mind when you ask me to not take things personally, and accuse me of attacking people on here with vitriol and say things like "well he's really a great guy etc." as you did in the past.

This wasn't written by me and is in reference to an argument between myself and a person from Europe and this is from a third person, so they may seem a little out of context but I thought it had some pretty cogent points in reference to war. This was in response to someone defending (at least partially) United States adventurism abroad:





"You don't really get the problem at all, likely because you don't have the mental capacity to. Yes Saddam Hussein was a brutal dictator, however the idea that U.S intervention was both done out of humanitarian motivations as well as the idea that the way we took out Saddam was well done, is bordering retardation.

Saddam saw groups like ISIS as a threat so in his brutality he kept them suppressed, despite us knowing this we invaded Iraq and took out Saddam with no viable replacement in leadership, this enabled ISIS to take power in Iraq. Our intervention in Iraq exacerbated the 'terrorist threat' which was minimal before, and that's why people accurately say it was U.S unilateral military intervention that created terrorism in the region in the form it is today, that is part of how the U.S destabilized the region.

Furthermore the notion that U.S intervention was entirely authoritarian is easily decimated by some basic statistics, our actions in Iraq and Afghanistan were not only a waste of resources and had catastrophic effects long term but resulted in actions which would make U.S foreign policy unarguably terroristic.
http://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/civilians/iraqi
That link will show you a scientific study along with U.N statistics show as a result of direct violence caused by the U.S invasion at least 165,000 Iraqi civilians have been massacred. What would this make U.S foreign policy, terroristic. And by the way that is a minimum number, there is certainly more civilians killed as a result of our military adventurism and it also doesn't take into account Afghanistan in which much more civilians were slaughtered.

And you are a fool to believe the U.S is solely strategically bombing ISIS camps and this is good spending of U.S resources. The U.S spends more than 50% of our discretionary budget on military, why is this a good idea? This prevents investments in infrastructure. Yes I will admit most of federal spending is mandatory spending, but this primarily includes interest on debt (by the way due to interest on debt U.S will be spending $7 TRILLION on the Iraq war, already spent $1.7 TRILLION) which is really just a given, as well as programs like Medicaid, Medicare, and Social Security. And these are earned beenfits programs anyway, they are really mostly funded by tax dollars so counting them entirely is intellectually dishonest. So counting discreationary spending we spend into the military in excess, more than roughly the next nine countries combined. (The number may have changed). Oh yeah and nearly all of the next 10 strongest militaries are our allies anyways. Britain, France, Japan, Brazil, Germany, South Korea, all among the top and all our allies. If we cut military spending by 50% even if you include the mandatory spending on military not just the discretionary spending, we would still have by far the strongest military in the world.

And furthermore why are we taking the terrorist threat into our own hands, when they do not pose a direct threat to the U.S. They are based in the Middle East and our primarily fighting there, us fighting there only makes us a larger target for terrorist attacks due to the heavy civilian casualties. We shouldnt be shipping our resources over seas for nation building and military intervention, and the 900 military bases we have stationed around the globe, when domestically we have crumbling infrastructure, high poverty rates, and could invest in labor market interventions so we could raise our minimum wage. And even then we waste so much of our money here on corporate welfare, pork barrel spending, and tax cuts in the name of deficit reduction which never comes to fruition.

And here is the cold truth about U.S Middle East intervention, it does not stop the problem. In the end we end up bombing innocent civilian in a waste of resources on what is not a direct domestic threat. While it is true the majority of terrorist convictions since 9/11 that came to the U.S did come from outside of U.S soil, that includes non violent convictions and acts not in U.S soil, so it is an intellectually dishonest comparison. Since we started the War on Terror, rates of terrorism are higher than what they were to begin with. With the onset of the drone wars and their increasing by Obama, and even more increasing now by Trump, (btw Trump has increased drone strikes by 432% already) when we kill civilians in the region we not only become massive human rights violators but we breed anti western sentiment in the region, this is the truth about U.S foreign policy, ISIS uses civilian casualties as a recruiting tool, and it works. Our foreign policy has proven that you can not just bomb ISIS into democracy, and you can not bomb them out of existence. We should allow countries like Jordan and United Arab Emirates to fight the problem in their region rather than taking it into our hands, because that has not worked. We should really stick to providing logistical support, intel, help to cut off radicalization online, cut off terrorist funding networks, and provide monetary and humanitarian support, and if we really want to fight the terrorist threat that should include moderate taking in of refugees. I think Bernie Sanders proposal of taking in 65,000 from Syria was reasonable, I am not saying take in 1 million as Germany has done approximately, don;t make a false dichotomy there, but 65,000 is sustainable. And it could also include helping with food supplies to allies in the region, as well as limited monetary support. This would also provide more resources to invest in all the problems we have domestically."

This articles are saying less than nothing. I mean, my basic question is, do you even know what Marx actually says? Have you read any of his work or just the regurgitation of what some very questionable at best pundits have said?

My other more basic question was that seeing as how there is very little actual money when compared to the bulk of the budget spent on social programs (unless you consider social security welfare) compared to what is spent on the military, How can you with a straight face call this "marxism"? Having a capitalist system with social programs and a welfare state is still a capitalist society. Socialism is where all the means of production are removed from private hands, This is no where even close remotely in any shape or definition of the word to what can be described as happening in the united states. Even if you have this delusion of "bloated regulations" every year by the most neutral sources you can find you can see year after year sky rocketing profits for big business and billionaires making more and more every year and corporate profit and productivity increasing while real wages staying flat lined. You can see the tax burden being shifted off the richest and put further onto the backs of the poor and the middle class. In a true communist society there is no tax because the wages would all be paid by the state to begin with. Just like if we had entirely nationalized health care you would pay higher taxes true, but you're forgetting that you would also not have to pay for insurance. You can find anecdotal evidence about Canadians coming to america that were waiting in extremely long lines for Surgery where they would have died or gone blind but those numbers are statistically remote and the vast majority of people from places like Canada and the UK and any other country with "socialized medicine" say that they love it and think our system is barbaric and absurd. And it's more expensive on top of it. What you hear much more often from Canadians is them buying special insurance when they visit the united states to have their medical costs covered in the event of an emergency, because there have been far more instances where a Canadian has visited the United States, been injured and been completely flabbergasted that they had to pay over one hundred thousands dollars for two weeks in the emergency room.

Do you REALLY think we need an extra 54 billion dollars ON TOP of what is already spent every year on the military? Did you not read the recent articles about how the military just "misplaced" hundreds of billions of dollars that they can't account for where it went or what was pent on? maybe it was even in the trillions of dollars. Do you REALLY think the microscopic amount of money we spend on the EPA needs to reduced? Did you know trump even cut funding for the local terrorist task force so we can focus more on "Islamic terror"? Imagine of the Signal Mountain man plot hadn't been stopped. did you know Gorka was just revealed to be a member of some strange crypto neo nazi version of the knights templar? Do you support any kind of minimum wage? Do you realize that there was Bill just passed called HR1313 that wants to give employers rights to our fucking GENETIC INFORMATION? and ask us invasive questions and sell this information to third parties? Every republican on the committee for this bill voted for it every democrat voted against it. Do you believe in any kind of minimum wage? Do you want your boss to have the "right" to pay you $3 an hour for 15 hours a day working around poisonous chemicals with no bathroom breaks? If you break your back and can't work what level of social safety net to you feel we should have or should we let you die in the street? please answer these questions as earnestly as you can.

I don't understand. Are states and municipalities forbidden from making investments in their own infrastructure? They did not build their water systems, in the late 19th and early 20th centuries, with Federal money.

It's a national crisis. So much has been dumped on the state and local level with reductions in funding that most cities are struggling to provide basic services. Yes, the Federal Government has an obligation to ensure the health and safety of the citizens. As a practical matter, nothing can be done without help and funding from the Feds. But, rich Republicans like you only think ideology, not any kind of common compassion. Your solution (a bill was just introduced) is to eliminate the EPA!

Fuck you up the ass with a prickly pear, you heartless son of a bitch.

Yup. Flat as Melissa Ashley, or a Ben Stein economics lecture.





You still don't get it. Where's me drill and funnel?

Taoiseach Trolls Tump:

But you just said there was lead menace everywhere, which implies the EPA is actually not that effective at finding and remediating environmental hazards. The agency's budget has remained remarkably resistant to actual reductions, having been more or less flat for 17 years while EPA headcount has declined by 20%. Know what that means, Princess? It means they are spending more and more per bureaucrat, on things like the bubble bath in Vegas and conspiring with fraudsters instead of actual environmental protection. For that reason, the compassionate thing to do if you have any compassion for the taxpayer (President Trump has compassion for the taxpayer because he is a helluva big taxpayer, as it turns out) is to stop wasting money in that rathole.

President Trump is awesome. I did not expect this.

Just the opposite, Admiral. If they weren't effective at finding it, how would we know about the lead menace in the first place? As to the EPA's efficacy, that's on you and your deregulatory chums.

What if the local municipal is too poor to take care of themselves? This is the old libertarian argument that "we don't need to pay for roads, free markets will build them" or you can look at Kansas that is totally broke because they cut taxes on the rich to appease their Koch brothers masters and now they are totally fucked.

It also should be restated that every dirty hippy elitist commie SJW safespaced blue state props up all the real American tough guy heartland red states with their federal tax dollars. So if we're going talk about government waste and personal responsibility and States rights and men going their own way then we should cut the red cancer lose and let them go their own way.

He's got you there, Admiral, in his own facepuffin way.

Does this one meet with your approval?

Now I don't understand. How is tax cuts for the rich while hungry children go without health care compassionate?

AMF.

I've been trying to post With as little emotion as possible yet for some reason you feel a need to poke me with stupid little quips while telling me to "calm down"