#648456 - 12/20/1702:02 AMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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Going back to gun control for a moment. I will repost something from a fellow from another board. I will use dashes instead of quotes as that always seems to cause a vanishing post
--Sure. But the question, really, is what'll work and what won't. I'm not about to act like I can tell Americans how to solve this uniquely American problem, but a) as the article DD posted argues very concisely, "assault weapons" is a completely meaningless term and b) "ban guns" sounds to me a lot like "ban drugs", and that never worked either.
See, here's the thing. I live in Switzerland. Gun nuts in the US love to cite Switzerland as an example of why gun control doesn't work - we have very little gun control (though most of what the NRA says about us is bullshit - the government doesn't require anyone here to keep a full-auto assault rifle in their home) and a very low crime rate. But the thing is, Switzerland also has social security to an extent that would have all of these NRA morons screaming "communism" at the top of their lungs. And I think that's really the difference. Your cut-throat, competitive capitalist society breeds violence, and that's why you have these mass shootings. That's the difference between the US and Switzerland. People here don't fear for their livelihoods the way Americans do, and as a result, we're a less violent society on the whole. I have no idea what that means in terms of fixing the gun violence problem in the US, but it seems to me that it's a symptom of a much larger problem than just guns.--
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#648468 - 12/21/1703:23 PMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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Going back to gun control for a moment. I will repost something from a fellow from another board. I will use dashes instead of quotes as that always seems to cause a vanishing post
Can you ask than fellow what the demographics are in Switzerland?
Chicago has high crime for reasons completely unrelated to the mere fact that guns exist.This is essentially an argument you make that is not related to the original topic that appears to be connected to it but is not. This is a tactic most right wingers use. Subtly change the subject. I would say that if the gun laws there were more lax gun violence would be even worse. Your argument is about the same as saying because there are so many murders why bother making murder illegal.
You say none of the 500 murders in Chicago involved bump stocks. Something I am Supposed to accept on face value. I will tell you the people who died at that country music show sure as fuck wished that dude had not been using one.
So once again you didn't answer the question or address the topic. You continue to think a law will solve something, yet when presented with facts that a city like Chicago has lots of gun laws, and lots of gun violence, you attempt to move the goal posts.
If you don't want to address why it is Chicago has a high gun murder rate, then forget about it and lets move on. If you were given control of the US, and could implement any law you wanted to stop gun violence, what would it be
Honestly, I don't think the causality rate in Vegas changes without a bumpstock. It throws accuracy out the window (no pun intended) and I think someone with a decent amount of skill can have inflicted the same amount of carnage without it.
#648483 - 12/22/1704:49 PMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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Originally Posted By: GR8Y8S
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Chicago has high crime for reasons completely unrelated to the mere fact that guns exist.This is essentially an argument you make that is not related to the original topic that appears to be connected to it but is not. This is a tactic most right wingers use. Subtly change the subject. I would say that if the gun laws there were more lax gun violence would be even worse. Your argument is about the same as saying because there are so many murders why bother making murder illegal.
You say none of the 500 murders in Chicago involved bump stocks. Something I am Supposed to accept on face value. I will tell you the people who died at that country music show sure as fuck wished that dude had not been using one.
So once again you didn't answer the question or address the topic. You continue to think a law will solve something, yet when presented with facts that a city like Chicago has lots of gun laws, and lots of gun violence, you attempt to move the goal posts.
If you don't want to address why it is Chicago has a high gun murder rate, then forget about it and lets move on. If you were given control of the US, and could implement any law you wanted to stop gun violence, what would it be
Honestly, I don't think the causality rate in Vegas changes without a bumpstock. It throws accuracy out the window (no pun intended) and I think someone with a decent amount of skill can have inflicted the same amount of carnage without it.
okay. You actually think the vegas gun man would have been likely to kill 60 people if he was not firing full auto? or pseudo full auto because ammosexuals like yourself latch on to pointless details that no one gives a shit about besides yourselves. bump firing can be very inaccurate but it can also be pretty much as accurate as a regular full auto weapon. We are talking about shoulder aiming here not from the hip bump firing. After all the entire point of rapid fire is that you lose accuracy in the first place from the jarring of the repeated recoil but you gain kill probability from the the wall of lead being sent towards your victims. Other wise why the fuck would the military use full auto and not just have everyone take popshots with semi auto?
Chicago and detroit are very dangerous places because they are poor neighborhoods and have been declining for the last 50 years are over run with black market drugs. I think one of the biggest ways to end rampant violence in poor neighborhoods would be to end drug prohibition so if you are a libertarian I guess that is one thing we could agree on. Although in certain instances drugs can become so rampant they can rot a society from the inside out like opium did to china but in general illegality makes things much much worse
but by using your argument you want to take an area with violent thugs and make it even EASIER for them to get a hold of weapons and you think EVEN MORE POWERFUL weapons should be available. What honest reason do you think you need a full automatic machine gun with a hundred round drum? Do you plan to fight off 20 home invaders at once? Do you really think that is going to happen anytime soon? Do you really think you are going to be invaded by jack booted thugs any second?
Why not have a Vulcan mini gun mounted on your roof?
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#648485 - 12/22/1704:54 PMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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Originally Posted By: GR8Y8S
Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
Going back to gun control for a moment. I will repost something from a fellow from another board. I will use dashes instead of quotes as that always seems to cause a vanishing post
Can you ask than fellow what the DEMOGRAPHICS are in Switzerland?
Of course. It all boils down to blaming the niggers right? You completely ignored the part about the massive social safety net. Go watch some Stefan Molyneux and Joe Rogan videos you retrotrade mall ninja retard.
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Hey Fat Bloody Fagbreath: way to put into 3 posts that which you could have done in one.
Meh. If he tried doing that, he'd end up with nine fart posts instead of three posts full of him falling for troll bait once again. Dubious quality vs. useless quantity.
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Of course. It all boils down to blaming the naggers right? You completely ignored the part about the massive social safety net. Go watch some Stefan Molyneux and Joe Rogan videos you retrotrade mall ninja retard.
Why should I go watch something instead of you just answering the question with your own words? You were the one who brought up Switzerland and accused the NRA of misrepresenting it. I'm trying to have all the facts about Switzerland brought into the equation.
You are the one complaining about gun violence, yet throw a temper tantrum when facts about who and where this violence occurs gets brought up.
Naggers as you call them, account for the overwhelming majority of murders in the US, despite being a relatively small % of the population. Why is this something you don't want to talk about? Same reason you can't answer why all the gun laws in Chicago doesn't stop he killing there.
I'm open to having an honest conversation about this topic, but you seem incapable of doing so. Is there a chance we can move forward with this, or are you just going to continue with the ad hominem attacks?
Listen, Out of State Plate, you're throwing a particularly loud, whiny, and obnoxious tantrum of your own. There are plenty of rooms in the Gimp Box and I can easily arrange for you to have one adjoining CxGxPx. K?
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#648498 - 12/23/1709:01 AMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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The problem is GR8Y8S is that it really is NOT an honest conversation about race when people like you make these kind of statements. And it was a predictable statement at that. I was waiting for you to bring up - - the black problem - - a week ago. You could have just as easily substituted - - the Muslim problem - -
Steve crowder is probably the dumbest person on YouTube
If you want to talk about why blacks are so terrible. Tell me why they are that way.
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#648500 - 12/23/1710:54 AMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
If you want to talk about why blacks are so terrible. Tell me why they are that way.
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okay. You actually think the vegas gun man would have been likely to kill 60 people if he was not firing full auto? or pseudo full auto
Well, there is a difference between the two, but at this point I'm not surprised by your lack of knowledge about something you hate so much.
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because ammosexuals like yourself latch on to pointless details that no one gives a shit about besides yourselves
Is pointless details your way of trying to pass off a point I made because you aren't smart enough to counter me with an intelligent response?
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bump firing can be very inaccurate but it can also be pretty much as accurate as a regular full auto weapon.
No, no it can't. Please, please educate yourself before commenting on a topic.
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We are talking about shoulder aiming here not from the hip bump firing. After all the entire point of rapid fire is that you lose accuracy in the first place from the jarring of the repeated recoil but you gain kill probability from the the wall of lead being sent towards your victims. Other wise why the fuck would the military use full auto and not just have everyone take popshots with semi auto?
Why doesn't the military use bumpstocks then if there is no difference between a weapon capable of full auto?
You don't have enough gun knowledge to continue this conversation in an intelligent way. I don't support bumpstocks, so let's agree to move on to the actual issues you don't want to address. Im utterly amazed how much you've talked more about bumpstocks, something you didn't know existed until Vegas, but still haven't said one law you think will stop gun violence
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Chicago and detroit are very dangerous places because they are poor neighborhoods and have been declining for the last 50 years
Don't forget to mention the demographics of those places, and the political party they support. Important details you want to gloss over
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are over run with black market drugs.
But drugs are illegal. You are of the opinion that simply passing a law will stop people from using guns to kill each other, yet acknowledge the black market is there to provide people want they want, regardless of the law against it. Interesting
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I think one of the biggest ways to end rampant violence in poor neighborhoods would be to end drug prohibition so if you are a libertarian I guess that is one thing we could agree on.
I agree with lessening drug laws, but I dont think for one second it will change the violence that occurs in those communities. Re-establishing the family unit and ending the handouts will do far more
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but by using your argument you want to take an area with violent thugs and make it even EASIER for them to get a hold of weapons and you think EVEN MORE POWERFUL weapons should be available.
Not my argument at all, but I guess you want to just start making up your own stuff to keep avoiding the facts
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What honest reason do you think you need a full automatic machine gun with a hundred round drum?
Hundred round drums are stupid and inefficient. A competent marksman is as capable with a semi as they are with a full auto. Which by the way have been banned since the 90s, and I have made no argument to change that law
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Do you plan to fight off 20 home invaders at once? Do you really think that is going to happen anytime soon? Do you really think you are going to be invaded by jack booted thugs any second?
I live in a 100% white neighborhood, so Im safe. But Im not ignorant enough to presume to know what others want, or need
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Why not have a Vulcan mini gun mounted on your roof?
Do you think you are accomplishing anything by going to the far extreme instead of just having a basic conversation about the topic
Listen, Out of State Plate, you're throwing a particularly loud, whiny, and obnoxious tantrum of your own. There are plenty of rooms in the Gimp Box and I can easily arrange for you to have one adjoining CxGxPx. K?
Funny. I see this group of Liberals is the same as every other group. Im asking for a question to be answered to allow a conversation between two people who have a different opinion can move forward. But sure, you're boy is getting crushed, so good for you to jump in and try and save him from further embarrassment.
Funny. I see this group of Liberals is the same as every other group.
You think XPT is a hotbed of Liberalism? BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
Originally Posted By: OutOfStatePlate
Im asking for a question to be answered to allow a conversation between two people who have a different opinion can move forward.
Ummmmm, No. You're blindly pressing on with your blather because you're so convinced of the righteousness of your argument. Which is a hallmark of political "discussion" on XPT from both the right AND the left.
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But sure, you're boy is getting crushed, so good for you to jump in and try and save him from further embarrassment.
Hmmmmm... where do I begin with this one?
1) Like most ignorant zealots, you've confused "your" and "you're", but unlike most, you've substituted the active for the possessive. Usually, it's the other way around, which makes you even more backwards-arsed than the rest of the pack;
2) I'm absolutely certain that our own License Plate would disagree with the assertion that he's "my boy". And I would as well. Hell, I've put him in the box enough times to disabuse anyone but you of the notion;
3) There is absolutely nothing that you, I, or anyone else can do to save him from further embarrassment. The only possible things that could save him from further embarrassment are suicide or a complete lifestyle change, and neither of these things are likely. And, Finally:
Originally Posted By: OutOfStatePlate
Get involved in the discussion, or fuck off
I'm involved in every discussion here. Sometimes by shooting my fool mouth off. Sometimes by my silence. Hell, I'm the idiot who started this thread. As for anyone fucking off? No, my friend, that would be you. You can spend Christmas in the Gimp Box and whine for my amusement. HO HO HOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Oh, and BTW: Way to Fart Post like the Real License Plate
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#648542 - 12/31/1712:16 AMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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^-- that's a good try, but the formatting and angles to support it being a "box" are a fail.
BTW, can we get an IP check on Ceramic God Faggot and Graybeass? These two shitbags talking to each other is oddly reminiscent of Brandon Irons and Moisuier arguing with each other, when in fact they were the same herpes-infected cuntling.
Those two guys live as far apart from each other as they do from reality, and neither of them is using a proxy. Besides, neither of 'em are bright enough to pull off a con like that as long as BI did. Took him more than a year to get caught, and he's an idiot.
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#648563 - 01/02/1805:24 PMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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#648574 - 01/04/1811:19 PMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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I think Fiend would have already shit his pants over Drumpfster fire's "release the Kraken" stance on Jeff Sessions and marijuana prosecution and the fact that PC snow flake SJW fag haven Commiefornia just legalized the green in combination with naming themselves a sanctuary state just pushed him into the realm of needing a colostomy bag.
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#648605 - 01/12/1803:44 AMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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Honestly, go ahead and build the wall. Build the biggest thickest wall possible. Make it out of solid titanium 10 feet thick with a base that goes at least 10 feet into the ground. You will have to eminent domain some american properties because the boarder is kind of uneven in some areas but just pay them five times the value of their homes so they will be happy. Do it. It will cost billions but far less than we waste on the military already and at least it will put some people to work if for a short term. Go ahead so we can see how completely worthless it is. It will have less than one percent of a difference in illegal immigration or drug traffic. If it has even a difference of 5% I would be astounded. I really do not give a shit at this point. Just give him his stupid fucking wall.
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#648607 - 01/12/1810:30 AMRe: Make D0nald Drumpf Again!
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