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#629549 - 08/18/15 01:36 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: CxGxPx]
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#629552 - 08/18/15 06:31 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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That's a nice little dream you have there of having an openly socialist candidate run for President. The only problem is only about 15% of the country is that far to the left and even they probably wouldn't vote for someone who wants to greatly increase their taxes.
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#629553 - 08/18/15 06:34 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Steezo]
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Originally Posted By: Steezo
That's a nice little dream you have there of having an openly socialist candidate run for President. The only problem is only about 15% of the country is that far to the left and even they probably wouldn't vote for someone who wants to greatly increase their taxes.



So, you're a Billionaire now, Steez?

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#629554 - 08/18/15 06:46 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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If I was a billionaire, I'd open a chain of combined strip clubs/restaurants. They would share a building, but they would be separated. The girls would have to waitress as well as dance. That way on the nights they aren't dancing, they can talk their regulars (suckers) into coming in and buying overpriced food. Most likely BBQ.

Getting back on topic, people don't like higher taxes and I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.
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#629555 - 08/18/15 07:02 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Steezo]
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Originally Posted By: Steezo
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.


Then you haven't been listening to anyone but Seaman Shill and the Fox Fudgepackers.

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#629560 - 08/18/15 07:57 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Steezo]
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Originally Posted By: Steezo
That's a nice little dream you have there of having an openly socialist candidate run for President.


Not to mention a Jew. Or is that redundant?
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#629561 - 08/18/15 10:07 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Originally Posted By: Steezo
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.

If you're raising taxes, you must raise them on the middle class because that's where the money is. The combined wealth (assets, not income!) of all US billionaires is US$2.2 trillion — a little more than half of what the Federal government spends in one year.

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#629565 - 08/19/15 04:12 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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^ Says a man who has not only fled the country to avoid paying any taxes but is actively aiding and abetting others to do the same. That's like the trite teen walking into a liquor store and saying "This is ME!" when the clerk asks for identification.

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#629566 - 08/19/15 05:16 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Originally Posted By: J.B.
Says a man who has not only fled the country to avoid paying any taxes but is actively aiding and abetting others to do the same.

Got some news for you, commie: As with so much that you just "know" is true about the 1% and how we're screwing you, you don't know what the fuck you're talking about on this one either. US citizens residing outside the United States pay taxes to the country in which they reside, and then write out a check to the Federal gummint on top of that. And, if like me, you're a member of a California-based partnership, the State of Crazyfornia grabs an additional ~10% of your income just because they want to. I pay close to 40 percent of my income in tax because of that.

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#629578 - 08/19/15 01:37 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Steezo]
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Originally Posted By: Steezo
If I was a billionaire, I'd open a chain of combined strip clubs/restaurants. They would share a building, but they would be separated. The girls would have to waitress as well as dance. That way on the nights they aren't dancing, they can talk their regulars (suckers) into coming in and buying overpriced food. Most likely BBQ.

Getting back on topic, people don't like higher taxes and I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.


I'd like to say I like your business plan and would like to invest in such business.

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#629579 - 08/19/15 01:38 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Vice Admiral]
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Originally Posted By: Vice Admiral
Originally Posted By: Steezo
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.

If you're raising taxes, you must raise them on the middle class because that's where the money is. The combined wealth (assets, not income!) of all US billionaires is US$2.2 trillion — a little more than half of what the Federal government spends in one year.


actually they way you crush the middle class is remove the home owner mortgage tax deduction. it's an incredible gift in general to the middle class but would start a war

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#629580 - 08/19/15 01:47 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: HillbillyHarry]
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#629582 - 08/19/15 06:04 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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^ Exactly, Chuck, but to hear Seaman Shill tell it, we oughta be impressed they're magnanimous enough to pay even that.

Change is coming, Shill. Better stock up on Depends.

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#629583 - 08/19/15 08:44 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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The United States is the only OECD country which taxes its citizens on worldwide income. I work with Brits, Aussies, Germans, Singaporeans and they all laugh it up when I describe how I have to pay taxes to the US on top of the taxes which are sufficient to meet my obligations to the country in which I reside.

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#629584 - 08/19/15 11:04 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Vice Admiral]
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Originally Posted By: Vice Admiral
Originally Posted By: Steezo
I doubt Bernie would raise them just for billionaires.

If you're raising taxes, you must raise them on the middle class because that's where the money is. The combined wealth (assets, not income!) of all US billionaires is US$2.2 trillion — a little more than half of what the Federal government spends in one year.


Why don't you explain why sam brownback had to increase the Kansas sales tax, a regressive tax, to pay for the budget shortfalls from cutting taxes on his rich cronies who got him elected you fucking scumbag. The United States has the lowest corporate tax rate in the first world. Sanders wants a small tax on financial transactions to counter act wall street and Goldman Sachs running roughshot. You know, like they do in most other civilized countries. How about lifting the social security tax cap so some one who makes 30 million a year actually has to pay into it more than some one who makes 240 thousand a year. I hope your're found dead with your own severed penis shoved up your ass and a bank roll stuffed down your throat.
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#629585 - 08/19/15 11:39 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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#629586 - 08/19/15 11:40 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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#629587 - 08/20/15 02:22 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Originally Posted By: CxGxPx
How about lifting the social security tax cap so some one who makes 30 million a year actually has to pay into it more than some one who makes 240 thousand a year.

I don't mind lifting the ceiling on Social Security contributions, but you are aware, aren't you, that the Social Security benefit is tied to the amount of contributions paid?

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The United States has the lowest corporate tax rate in the first world.

I don't know what to say about this. It's so obviously untrue, and so easily confirmed to be untrue, that I wonder if you are even more stupid than you seem to be.

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#629588 - 08/20/15 02:55 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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You say you're for lifting the cap huh? Yet you feel the need to put your little spin on it. Not all the millionaires are going to retire st once and most studies agree it would help all beneficiaries. You know, "a rising tide lifts all boats " the capitalist cock sucker catch phrase

You know very well the effective tax rate is in a different universe from the official tax rate. I like how you tried to out lawyer your self there.

But please continue to ignore the sam brownback question or the graph about corporate welfare. Or corporate welfare in general as people like you like to scream about some hood rat on foodstamps with 7 kids but we never hear a peep about subsidies.

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#629589 - 08/20/15 03:02 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Edited by CxGxPx (08/20/15 03:03 AM)
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#629590 - 08/20/15 03:06 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Do you believe that corporations are people?

Do you believe that money is speach?

Do you think dark money is acceptable?

Do you think we should be money out of politics so we found remove the influences of people like George soros as well as the kochs ?
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#629591 - 08/20/15 04:05 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Corporations are people. Juridical people. That's been settled for over 400 years.

Political contributions are speech, just like lap dancing and stomping on a flag is speech.

Dark money is acceptable because persons have privacy rights recognized in law.

No, money should not be "out of politics" unless we have some consensus that free speech shall be limited. You will need a Constitutional amendment for that.

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#629592 - 08/20/15 07:52 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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You claim to be a libertarian. If that where true then why would you support the legal fiction known as a corporation to exist. An entity who's purpose is to shield business owners from liability and harsh market forces . A libertarian wouldn't he in favor of a protectionist law regarding lassiez faire free markets. Libertarians wouldn't be for this kind of picking winners and losers in the market

Congratulations on proving what a vile piece of shit you are with those answers

And you're STILL ducking the sam brownback question. And the corporate welfare one. And the effective tax rate one...........
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#629594 - 08/20/15 01:07 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: CxGxPx]
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#629618 - 08/21/15 01:45 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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#629620 - 08/21/15 02:38 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Denny's huh? Were they having dinner at 5:30pm?
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#629622 - 08/21/15 05:45 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: faceblaster]
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Originally Posted By: faceblaster
Were they having dinner at 5:30pm?



They call that the "Reagan Special" at Denny's. [/onelinerlarry]

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#629625 - 08/22/15 11:55 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: ]
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#629630 - 08/22/15 08:11 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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#629714 - 08/31/15 05:51 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: CxGxPx]
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#629717 - 08/31/15 06:55 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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The big one is Get Big Money Out Of Politics. Ban corporate and union donations and the other promises fall into place.

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#629736 - 09/01/15 06:33 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: artwilliams]
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^This.

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#629758 - 09/02/15 09:59 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Once Sanders bankrupts every corporation in America where does he turn next?
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#629768 - 09/02/15 06:03 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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He'll confiscate the entire assets of every billionaire in America. (Maybe he'll execute them, for good measure!) That will fund the government for eight months.

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#629770 - 09/02/15 07:29 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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^Cheer up, Shill. You'll be raking in the dough once the Iran War kicks into gear. Oh, wait...

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#629773 - 09/02/15 09:13 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Vice Admiral]
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Originally Posted By: Vice Admiral
He'll confiscate the entire assets of every billionaire in America. (Maybe he'll execute them, for good measure!) That will fund the government for eight months.

Still dodging almost all my questions because you're a worthless fucking cunt?
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#629807 - 09/04/15 07:33 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: ]
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Hey I like the idea of a bigger paycheck as much as the next guy and I like free shit as much as the next guy but riddle me this. Who the hell is going to pay for all this free shit because it ain't going to be free?

You jack up the minimum wage you make more money. Companies and businesses jack up the prices of their shit because they aren't going to take the hit out of their profits. ( And fucking forget about expecting shareholders to take it out of their dividends either. There's a fucking reason Wal-Mart stock fell about 30% right after they announced they would increase their starting wages.) So just like Patrick Ewing you will be making more money but you will be spending more as well. Groceries will go up because wages to grocery store employees will go up. Gas will go up because wages to convenience store workers wages will go up. Eating out will cost more because restaurant employees will cost more. So on and so on. Same with all the free days off stuff. Someone is paying for that and if it isn't the consumer it will be the taxpayer. (Hint, hint they are one and the same.) You can't just turn one knob up on the economic studio board without fucking up all the levels the other knobs are set at too.
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#629810 - 09/04/15 08:14 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Never confuse socialists/libtards with the economic truth. They only respond to free pie in the sky idealistic nonsense.
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#629813 - 09/04/15 09:11 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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When the super-rich and mega-multinational corporations pay their fair share, we will be able to have decent pay and benefits for the working Joe, like the rest of the developed world.
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#629817 - 09/04/15 02:18 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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The rest of the developed world? What do you really know about the rest of the developed world? Wages are shit in most countries. Most of the so-called "free shit" the European countries dispense goes to their professional classes. That "free college" you've heard so much about is rationed — their working class kids get shunted away from a college track quite early. Like eighth grade early. The socialism in Europe is a huge gyp by which their elites bilk the working stiff.

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#629820 - 09/04/15 02:30 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Vice Admiral]
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Originally Posted By: Seaman Shill
What do you really know about the rest of the developed world?



What the fuck do YOU know about anything, Shill? You've spent so many years feeding the Goobers on gloom and doom fantasies you no longer know or care what's actually going on, so long as the Kochs keep funding your bar, pill and brothel bills.

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#629824 - 09/04/15 03:25 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: the unknown pervert]
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Originally Posted By: the unknown pervert
I like free shit as much as the next guy



No one's asking for free shit, TUP, despite all the shilling, and fear mongering, and TriteTeenesqe antics going on here. All people want is for the tax dodgers hiding in Malaysian Massage Parlors with Admiral ALEC to quit their bitching and pull their own damn weight.




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#629827 - 09/04/15 08:17 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: Vice Admiral]
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Originally Posted By: Vice Admiral
The rest of the developed world? What do you really know about the rest of the developed world? Wages are shit in most countries. Most of the so-called "free shit" the European countries dispense goes to their professional classes. That "free college" you've heard so much about is rationed — their working class kids get shunted away from a college track quite early. Like eighth grade early. The socialism in Europe is a huge gyp by which their elites bilk the working stiff.


Wrong Vice Admiral. Kids in Canada get university tuition for $5,000 to $7,000 a year. Some of our schools are tops in the world.

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#629828 - 09/04/15 10:13 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Social mobility here seems to be behind that of many euro countries...

http://www.economist.com/news/united-sta...bility-measured

..The study confirms previous findings that America’s social mobility is low compared with many European countries. (In Denmark, a poor child has twice as much chance of making it to the top quintile as in America.) But it challenges several smaller recent studies that concluded that America had become less socially mobile...
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#629829 - 09/04/15 11:20 PM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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This statement is utter nonsense: "The amount of taxes that corporations and the top 1% have stolen from the US Treasury by exploiting loopholes, tax havens, and tax cuts." Exploiting loopholes, tax havens, and tax cuts is also known as full compliance with law. It's quite fanciful to complain about full compliance with law by characterizing it as stealing.

This organization, FlipTheDebt.org, reckons its figure as from 2001, when Congress passed the tax cuts proposed by President George W. Bush, History's Greatest Monster.

Okay, then. So The Rich! The Rich! have had their taxes reduced by US$2.8 trillion (I visited the website) since 2001, a period of 15 years, and all of that has become debt. But our national debt is US$18 trillion. The debt was US$5.8 trillion in 2001, and US$10 trillion in 2008. What accounts for the rest of the debt, since the money "stolen" by evil corporations and the 1% when they comply with tax law doesn't even reach a quarter of the debt incurred by the United States during their 15-year crime spree?

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#629830 - 09/05/15 04:26 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: Vice Admiral]
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Originally Posted By: Vice Admiral
... Exploiting loopholes, tax havens, and tax cuts is also known as full compliance with law.

<snip>
What accounts for the rest of the debt, since the money "stolen" by evil corporations and the 1% when they comply with tax law doesn't even reach a quarter of the debt incurred by the United States during their 15-year crime spree?


Full compliance with laws made by bought and paid for legislators. This is what we must change!

I don't have figures handy, but the two wars Duh Duh Dubya lost may have contributed to the debt.
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#629831 - 09/05/15 04:54 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Originally Posted By: charin
I don't have figures handy, but the two wars Duh Duh Dubya lost may have contributed to the debt.


That's about US$1 trillion, which was about 2.5% of total Federal spending during the period that the wars were on, and 8% of the total debt incurred during that period.

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#629832 - 09/05/15 05:21 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
J.B.
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Originally Posted By: charin
Full compliance with laws made by bought and paid for legislators. This is what we must change!


Yep. Laws written by Seaman Shill and his ALEC Acolytes.


Originally Posted By: Charin
I don't have figures handy, but the two wars Duh Duh Dubya lost may have contributed to the debt.


Some $4.4 Trillion's worth, I believe, and climbing. Our grandkids' grandkids are going to be paying this off. Of course that doesn't bother Shill in the least: He and his clients stashed their stolen moolah in Malaysia.

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#629834 - 09/05/15 06:21 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: ]
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Worth sharing again.

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#629863 - 09/06/15 11:26 AM Re: Bernie! [Re: charin]
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Meanwhile, in New Hampshire...




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