Storm is also known for having a real ethic and not compromising. He's had numerous offers from TNA and turns them down each and every time because he knows exactly how that scenario would play out. Storm's a real class act, and a hell of a rassler.

Yeah, he'd go to TNA, not be used properly, have to teach and put over all the talent, and be paid with the 100's Bischoff uses to wipe his ass.

I usually leave the TV on while I fap. There's a point here, bear with me. The other day, Wendy Williams came on and had Hogan there the whole show. I stopped whacking furiously and hit record on the DVR. I was going to take everthing he said and dissect it for truth here in the wrasslin' thread. Then I realized that Hogan or not, I was fucking recording Wendy Williams.

I lost my erection and canceled it.

I'd like to see that big coloured girl get naked and finger her own asshole.

I think Goldberg was a decent enough guy who seemed pretty awestruck by the whole thing. As opposed to Helwig, who's just an ass.

Storm, Jerry Lynn, Chris Candido, Steve Carino. All their yambags will remain unlicked by Bill Goldberg. I can tell you, on a very different level, that it fucking blows to spend years honing your craft only to see some neophyte come rolling in and steal a spot that in a far from perfect world should be yours. Not that I'm bitter.

Hahahahahah. That was funny as fuck, Barry.

As for the rest of your post- This is the reason that the majority of the Impact fans/lockeroom can't stand Krimzon. Gunner at least wrestled prominently in a lesser NWA promotion. Krimzon not only came out of nowhere, but he fucking sucks. How you gonna' build a monster with an undefeated streak where the the guy fucking wins 65% of his matches with surprise roll-ups. Krimzon's streak was a joke when it started and continues as such to this day.

Most streaks are. I guess I understand the capital that gets put into winning streaks, but when everyone knew Bill G. had been beaten a couple of times before the streak, it became kind of a joke.

I know Wendy Williams is a loud mouth skank, but I seriously groove on her body.

I thought she was a tranny. Had to google it to make sure.

Yeah, streaks are a fucking joke, but there's a right way and a wrong way to go about them. If they're trying to build Krimzon into a legitimate monster, then please, by all means, quit making half of his victories look like lucky breaks. If you're going to do it that way, you need to build it as a comedy angle. Which I think would be brilliant. Have a guy that just can't seem to lose, regardless of skill or effort.

Mikey Whipwreck when he teamed with Foley in ECW. Really hilarious stuff. Mikey was terrified and Cactus was just throwing him to the lions.

I think I'm going to get tickets to this show. I only saw ECW live once. Well, real ECW. I did see the first WWECW live, w/ Sandman caning the stupid f'n Zombie.



Could be a really fun night, the Armory is only about 5 minutes from a casino.

"Dawn Marie, come here ya lil retard." Ha ha ha ha

^^^ That was awesome.

"Chili sauce, it's ain't what she thinks it is, cuz she's so stupid."

Dawn Marie: "Oh God. It's not food."

Good times. Corino is fantastic. I hate New Jack, but when he's coherent, he cuts a great promo.

If only I lived in that part of the nation, Jerky. I'd be right there with you. I used to go to a local Indy here all the time and get wasted and hit on Daisy Haze and tell the heels to fuck off. The wrestlers used to chuck each other over the guard rails and brawl into the audience regularly. It was a fucking blast.

Russo has parted ways with TNA. Things can only go up from here, right?

Pretty much. All they have to do is get rid of Hogan and Bitchoff, hand the reigns to Heyman, and let the contracts run out on the over priced. Take the money they save on Sting, HH and EB, and give it to Brock. He might leave MN for 5 days a month for the right price.

Apparently Bruce Pritchard and Dave Lagana are running the show. I've noticed a small uptick in the quality of the programming, like stories actually continuing, and seeing guys like Joe and Magnus finally get some decent face/ring time.

Who would you run Lesnar in a program with? I don't see anybody on the current roster that could run with him. Altho he could really take Joe to the next level. Maybe help bring along Crimson and Morgan.

Are Hogan and Bischoff involved in Creative or are they just characters? If they're in Creative, those leeches will will be harder to extract than that bug in Neo's bellybutton.

I read somewhere that no one can talk to Dixie directly. It all has to go through Pritchard. Huge mistake if so.

Glad to see Russo gone. He captured lightening in a box...once. It was just dumb luck. He's been a cancer since.

Love to see Heyman booking. He's volatile, but he's a genius booker. Let someone else run the business and turn him loose with Creative. They have such a good talent pool, but they're booking is terrible.

I'd love TNA to make it, but they need to make big changes and stick to them, rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater if it doesn't turn things around in 2 weeks.

Brock and Heyman are buddy buddy, so I'd have Heyman come in as the office, throw the old timers out, have them revolt, then bring in Brock to kill them off one by one. Heyman and Brock would be babyfaces in this. Then when Brock is done taking out the trash, I put the strap on him and let him run with it. Use Styles as the face you gotta get through to get to Brock. First big feud with the strap would be Abyss. Brock is a fucking Monster, so he don't need a group around him, just a mouth piece. I'd throw him on TV from time to time in a handicap match w/ some X division guys for shits and giggles. But basically, you got a star who is a monster, that you can throw shit at and see who can get over.

And Brock would only have to show up every other week. Monday and Tuesday one week, and Sunday-Tuesday the other week. I don't know what you would have to pay him, since he was probably knocking down well over a mill a fight in UFC, not including endorsements.

I like your booking mind. Pretty solid. Have him basically be Andre circa 1976, just with the strap.

Lesnar's health is problematic, tho. They tape a month worth of shows at a time, don't they? Having him work every other week might help him get through that. Plus disappearing every winter for hunting season. I think working his health into storylines might be good too. Remember when the Franchise was in the title run with Al Snow at the end of Snow's ECW tenure? He had the elbow problem and something in like his sinuses that kept him from flying. They pushed him as weak as a kitten, and he and Snow worked a great match.

I'm sure if they made his whore, er, wife I mean a VP in charge of Knockouts or something, he'd come in.

I'd rather them re-build the X-division, whose style put TNA on the goddamn map.

I think they got a kid together, so Sable be back at the farm, spending his money.

TNA shoots every other week, Monday and Tuesday at Universal Studios in FL, and they do a PPV once a month, the Sunday before a taping. They hardly do house shows, so he don't need to travel to them. You could even work into the gimmick that he only defends the title on PPV, so he could tape 2 vignettes/promos/backstage segments and 1 match first day of the tapings, and not stick around for the other.

Now, you do have to have Heyman doing the booking, otherwise, Brock may just up and leave if he don't like something. He trusts Paul, and few others. I'd approach them 2 months before Hogan/Bitchoff deals are up, and offer them the same contracts H/B had.

It is 2012, not 1992. Hogan is old, Eric was an office boy never creative, Angle is fragile. And like you said, Brock could have off from Oct-January. He is a big enough name that he walks right back to his spot. I'd try to have him keep the strap for a couple years, that way who ever beats him will be SUPER over. I am no fan of throwing the strap on any turd w/ some fleeting juice.

I'm still a huge mark for the Belt. It's just wrong to stick the belt on someone who isn't at the top of the game. Miz, fer instance.

EB booked the nWo angle, which was as cool as it came. Then. Lightening in a bottle. You can't just slapdash it back together again. And that's what he tries to do. And Hogan, well, fuck him. I can't believe that people with no connection to the business beyond being fans can see he's cancer, but people within can't. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near the book.

I don't know. Does saying OK to Nash, Hall and Hogan really qualify as booking?

I think I've mentioned this before, but the root of TNA's problems all pretty much revolve around the fact that Dixie Carter is just too goddamn nice of a person to be anywhere near the wrasslin' biz. She should have released Russo a long, long, time ago, but considered him "family" and would rather save herself grief by not firing him, when any idiot with one cell up top could tell that his haphazard writing was killing the fed. Stories went absolutely NOWHERE under Russo's pen.

Look at Immortal. They spent like six months building up to that angle, only to have the group swell and shrink with the tides. Anderson was in and out of that faction, what, like four fucking times in a three month period? They never did anything except waste valuable wrasslin' time standing in the ring talking, and now, they're what, Gunner, Bully, and Bischoff? Steiner maybe? I couldn't even tell you who's currently in Immortal because they handled that storyline so poorly.

This stuff happens when a money mark has a daughter that needs a job.

I would think if Dixie's dad were a money mark he'd have some basic sense on how to run coherent storylines. Totally with fartz on this, but it's deeper than that. They don't tweak stories that are failing. They just dump them, no explanation, no closure. I'm under no illusion that writing weekly tv is the easiest thing in the world, but c'mon. Enough is enough. There's already boilerplate for Southern wrestling. Look at Lawler's old promotion. Modern up the stories a bit and run. They're trying to reinvent the wheel when the wheel is just fine.

That was Russo. In some Cornette shoots, he talks about being at creative meeting and Russo would pitch an idea like he re invented the wheel. Cornette would then say, "Oh, like, Bla bla bla did in 83..." and then give the lay out of how the entire storyline played out. Russo would get pissy, and make changes in the lay out for no reason, and they didn't make sense. I imagine that he did the same in TNA, and if it didn't click, just walk away and pretend it never happened. Cornette basically said Russo didn't consider wrestling fans marks, he just considered them stupid.

Which, at the end of the day, is what killed WCW. The Time- Warner people were ashamed that they owned a wrestling company. No matter the profits, no matter the contribution to the bottom line. It couldn't be allowed to thrive. Plain and simple.

I would have killed to be a fly on the wall in those booking meetings. Cornette is not a character. What you see is what you get. And Russo is a "writer". He very much feels he's an artiste'. I've seen several shoots with him and he is as real as Billy Jack Haynes. Delusional, but very sincere about it.

It ain't rocket science. It's booking wrestling. It's writing episodic tv. Both have been mastered. And there's only so many stories to tell. The Jarretts, of all people, should know this.

WCW of itself was a money loser/write off for years. The benefit of it was to promote other TBS/TNT shows to the demographic. In a Kevin Nash shoot, he talks about how even losing money, it was a cheap way to fill 5 hours of prime time ORIGINAL programming. He attributes the introduction of Thunder as the jump the shark moment, when it was bumped from 3 hours/week to 5.

Jarrets only have 10% of TNA, they have no say in anything.

I think they're the only holders besides Panda Energy. But who knows? They're expanding. India, AAA (I think), they just bought an old E developmental territory. Maybe there's a grand master plan.

Or not. I'd like to see them succeed. They do cool stuff, give Indy guys a shot, bring in Japanese and Mexican guys. As a company, they seem to appreciate the business more.

Yep, from my understanding Panda is the only other stake holder. I think the Jarrets kept 10% to guarantee Jeff wouldn't be shut out of the business. Take money outta Vince's pocket and he holds the grudge. I think Macho Man was black balled, not for the Steph rumors, but because he took that Slim Jim money with him to WCW.

Everybody was 100% sure that Dixie's folks where going to get involved in the immortal storyline when Abyss named his cheesey weapons "Janice" and "Bob" (Dixie's folk's names), and then, NOTHING. Fuck, I'm glad Russo is gone.

I hated the Janice bit. He not only never used it, but you knew he would never use it...being a 2x4 with big ass nails protruding. You're right: cheesey. Like H's sledge. He never swings it right.

Slaughter had the same problem as Macho Man. He wouldn't fork over a portion of his GI Joe money.

Do you think the Steph thing is what keeps Savage out of the HOF?

I love the rumor, LOVE IT, but I really doubt it is true. I mean if I was a borderline billionaire, and one of the independent contractors I used fucked my 14 year old daughter, I'd definitely go to the police. Now Vince had another option, because of the physical nature of the business, he could have juiced someone to break his f'n neck.

Slaughter, yeah. I think he needs to thank god for the Gulf War getting him back in the fold. He has pretty much been a WWE employee ever since. I really like the guy. Never heard a bad word about him; he was over as a heel, or a face, every where he went; and I used the Cobra Clutch many times on the playground during recess. I still have an old AWA VHS of his, where he puts Greg Gagne through boot camp.

Which version of the cobra clutch, the normal one or the power noogie?

Rambo Gagne was one of the greatest wrasslin' lolz ever.

This one, no noogie. And any one that calls it the Million Dollar Dream, gets a kick in the nuts, before the hold is applied.

The Greg Gagne bootcamp was fantastic. Ranks up there with the Tony Atlas/ Kevin Sullivan workout vignette on GCW. I took Greg's sister Donna more seriously as a badass. He looks like my insurance guy.

Anyone know the details of Greg getting in trouble for being handsy in the office?

Sarge was over as over gets during the Gulf War. Death threats over. When old ladies are trying to gut you on the way to the car, you're over. Funny, they kept that going til the end, but when they had a really well thought out, coherent storyline with...I can't remember his name, but his manager was Shaun Davari. Basically, 2nd generation Arab American making his way in a post 9/11 America. He was Italian in real life, but that doesn't matter. So was Chief Jay Strongbow and Wahoo McDaniels. A fairly compelling heel, because it was realistic. A couple of letters from CAAR and down the road he went. It's a fucked up world, people.

Watching RAW on the DVR tonight. Dewey Johnson came out at the end and ranted. He had notes written on his fucking wrist. I told the SO that I never thought there was any way I could hate the Rock any more, but the talentless douche pulled it off. Dusty Rhodes never needed notes.

Noogieless Cobra Clutch all the way. I think Maniac Mark Lewin did something similar that he learned in Tibet from a monk or some shit. I hate that everybody has a finisher now. Named after them. The Stone Cold Stunner, which is a Diamond Cutter, which is a Reverse DDT. Altho I did like it when Austin Idol called his Figure Four a Las Vegas Leg Lock.

Tiger Ali Singh, son of Tiger Jeet Singh.

Strongbow = Joe Scarpa, born in Philly

Wahoo = Edward McDaniel, born in Bernice Oklahoma, Choctaw-Chickasaw Indian. Wahoo was the real deal. No one will tell any dirt on Wahoo, all anyone does is heap praise on the man. Even old NFL teammates I've heard speak of him now and then. Dude was married 5 times, so I guess there are some broads out there that would have some shit to say.

Stone Cold Stunner, a rip from Johnny Ace I think, Ace Crusher he used in Japan, has the guy performing the move drop straight down to his ass, winding up in the seated position. The Diamond Cutter, since co opted as the RKO, has the performer jump out laterally and land on his ass or side, flat on the mat.

I was joshing on Wahoo. Just making sure everyone was paying attention.

It wasn't Tiger Ali. Shit. I have to go look it up. Muhammed Hassan. His dad was Italian, but his mom was Jordanian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Copani

Now here is some fun. Don't give anything away for a while, what ones you got hung up on and whatnot. I don't think I've set the bar too high w/ 39 out of 43. One I missed I'd have never gotten, other 3 I was pretty stupid to miss. First column I filled out pretty quick, hung on 2 for a lil bit, second column was tougher since I haven't watched much in the past few years.

You do have to spell the name correctly, but you can use a nickname, ie Rock instead of Dewayne Johnson. This quiz is for the WWE championship, not the World Title from Smackdown.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/g/wwechampions

IC title, I got 98/132. This one goes by title change, so when you put in the name, it fills in every time he won. Last column was awful again, I got like 12 out of 33.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/g/wwe_intercontinental

Only missed one on this shorter quiz. Most times held WWE title.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Fastthumbs227/wwe_titles

This was hard. Most Matches in WWE from 1980 to 2009. I got 59 out of 100, about 10 really stupid omissions, but I did get the top 15.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/juror8/mostwwewwfmatches

I missed one WCW World Champion.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/Kaasa/WCW_Champions

This one just for Barry, I got like 3 of them.

http://www.sporcle.com/games/BrianZane/pnw_championship

WWE World Champions: 26. Really embarassed by the ones I missed. It wouldn't let me just type in "Andre".

WWE IC: 51. Aaarrggg.

Got all the most titles.

Not going to try the most matches.

WCW Titles. I got them all except the post E buyout ones.

There is a ton of stuff on that site. Some are fucking boondoggles, like NWA US tag team Champs, Georgia National Champs, Ric Flairs PPV opponents. There is one for all the NWO members, but it includes Japs and any schmuck that put the t-shirt on for a week.

Got 33/43 on the WWF champion one. I don't know whether to be shamed of myself or pat myself on the back for forgetting Cena.

Got all the WCW except Russo, Arquette, & the post WWE buy out ones.

Got 85 of the Intercontental Champions, spelling cost me at least five more.

Didn't even try the last one.

Rumor has it that Doug Furnas died.

http://www.lordsofpain.net/news/Former_WWF_Star_Doug_Furnas_Reported_To_Have_Passed_Away.html

I always remember him having one of the best drop kicks. Some guys would hop up and feet would be around your gut and chest. Furnas would leap, hit on his opponents collar bone, and push off. I was sad his WWE tag team run was so short lived, I think due to an LaFon injury.

Hogan sex tape being shopped around

He did. He was an ex UT Vol. Steroids ? Only 52. Donations to an org. for encephalopathy [sp?] .

Seems like heart attack. Coulda been from roids, but since he was a power lifter, before wrasslin, I couldn't blame his time in the ring for the heart attack. Wrasslin could be the reason for the Parkinson's though. Very stiff/rough style they work in Japan, where he spent the majority of his career. I could see chair shots and rough bumps damaging him enough to get da shakes.

Wiki days he and his wife ran a group home for abused boys in San Diego. I got a little more respect for him now.

Yeah me too. He was a good Vol IIRC !

I just totally sold a bottle of lube to an old heel manager from the local fed that was around about ten years ago. It was cool as fuck talking about all of the old local rasslers and where they ended up. (Evan Bourne (Matt) and Delirious were the only ones that made it anywhere). He's the fat shouting guy with the briefcase in the beginning of the vid.

Matt Bourne or Evan Bourne?