My opinion, Randy got no personality and he is over pushed, but he is better between the ropes than Luger.

Biggest problem w/WWE is the complete lack of personality of the guys they have. Back in the day that would be remedied by putting the guy with a manager, but they don't do that anymore. If they are doing some contraction, and merging the brands again, they should take some of the $$ they save cutting enhancement talent, and hire a couple guys to help put some of these shlubs over. They need a Bobby Heenan to rotate in monsters to try and take Cena out. Or like WCW did w/ Sullivan and Hogan. How many more years they think they are going to make it by doing Cena/HHH/Orton main events?

Problem is Steph is more of a micro manager than Vince. Shane jumped ship at the right time.

Gary Hart, Austin Idol, Buddy Colt and Bobby Shane were on the plane. Bobby Shane didn't survive. Gary Hart talks about it in one of the WWE compilations. It was obviously a very fresh scar for him.

Orton is nowhere near as useless as Lugar. I always say he sucks the charisma out of any room he walks into. But when it comes to dropping a bulldog, no one does it smoother. Beyond that, he just sucks.

Eddie Gilbert suffers for the sins of his father. Another very good Southern angle.

Pretty much speaks for itself.



The infamous Jim Cornette Dairy Queen incident.

I'll see your Paul Roma and Lex Lugar and raise you Steve McMichael.

Not bright to keep a fat man from his fast food.

I'd say you got me there, but McMicheals was at least over enough because of his fame whore wife to hang a belt on him.

Who was it, Jericho or Lance Storm, that said they were disgusted by Arn telling Mongo to "get his rails" before going out to do a promo. Fucking coke heads.

On a side note, I was all interested in reading Arn's book, until I read it was kayfabe, not a shoot. Whatta tool.

In the spirit of Lugar v. Brody, here's Steven Reagal taking a red hot Goldberg to school.

G-Bug lucky Regal was just trying to fuck with him. Guarantee if Lord Steven knew he was going to get fired, G-bug would have been left layin bloody, w/something broken, entire gimmick shot.

Mike Graham on Benoit and his buddies leaving WCW

Didn't Goldberg get his ass kicked by fucking Chris Jericho?


I can't find it again but there's a shoot interview with Luger talking about the incident with Brody that's pretty fucking funny...Luger makes a retarded face and says "Brody just...stopped working...and I didn't want to get my ass kicked"

Here's him and Debiase's born again bullshit




maybe we can get Pat Robertson to leg press both of them into the sun next time he stacks up one of his miracle 2000 pound loads.

This thread is in desperate need of blood and guts.

I could listen to Jim Cornette talk all day. This is a great clip....

One reason and one reason only for the "Von Erich Tragedy", there old man Fritz was a mental piece of shit that cared more about $$ than his own kids. Except for the one that was supposedly electrocuted in the back yard, all drug ODs or suicides.

Story goes David OD'd in Japan and Brody cleaned up the scene before the cops got there.

Kerry was a mess. Best story about him is when they were supposed to combine the World Class, AWA and Memphis belts, he had a blade in the tape on his finger to get some juice. Fucking guy was so out of it in the locker room that he forgot, scratched his arm and laid himself open. I believe he was sich a mess in the match, Lawler went for the tape that was basically a tourniquet on Kerry's arm and the match was stopped for excessive bleeding.

2 youngest, Chris and Mike, never should have been int he business, but Fritz was chasing dollars and pushed them in ill prepared for the ring, the lifestyle and the expectations.

Kevin, the only one left, did an interview on WWE 24/7 shortly after he sold the tape library to Vince. He is so Stockholmed that he still pines for daddy's approval and admiration. Meanwhile daddy used to tell them they would never be as good as David (after David was dead). Also tells a story of his old man pulling a gun on him and asking him "How come your the one that lived?" Hot seat in hell for a piece of shit like Fritz.


Stu Hart same type of thing, but most of his kids are alive. Owen was different from the rest, he was mom's, and she kept him more protected from Stu.

I used to mark out huge for Kevin as a kid, then learned as an adult, how much of a prick he really was. I'll let Harry Simon do the splainin':


"You see, kevin is, and I'm being kind here, a scumbag. Listen to this story and tell me if you don't agree. When Kerry died in 1992, a memorial card was thrown together in Texas, with the proceeds going to the two daughters Kerry left behind. The main event was scheduled to be kevin & Chris Adams vs. Michael Hayes & Buddy Roberts. The promoter of the show told the boys that he would cover any other bookings they had for the evening. So the night of the show rolls around, and kevin goes to the promoter and holds him up for $2,000, claiming that he could have made that much at a different show in Alabama. That's right, kevin HELD UP THE PROMOTER AT A BENEFIT SHOW FOR HIS OWN NIECES."

You guys should check out Simon's articles. They're informative and quite funny. Guy's a wrestling encyclopedia.

http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/archives.html

Check out the "Clustershmazz" column for Harry's work. The rest of the crew at TWF are also pretty damn entertaining.

One a them nieces turned out to be quite the POA

Google "Lacey Von Erich Private Sessions". It's not quite porn, but she's getting there. Slowly but surely. You need a Dailymotion account to check out the vid. I saw it on Youtube awhile ago, and couldn't find it to post. Pretty sure YT took it down.

that site is pretty great, Fartz.

Saw this on lordsofpain.net

Triple H was also asked about the recent article exposing Ric Flair's troubles. He said:

"Ric is one of my best friends. Ric doesn't know when to walk away. Ric doesn't want to be told to walk away. And Ric can't afford to walk away. Ric has lived every day of his life like it's the last for almost the fifty years he's been in the business. In Ric's mind, it's still 1982, he's on top of the world, he's young, he's got a lot of money. Ric has never questioned spending. We have a term on the road where if you go out and you have a crazy night that you spent a ludicrous amount of money or you just lose it one day and you can't go through another airport and you're trying to get a jet instead, we call it 'Naitching.' Ridiculously spending money for no point is called 'Naitching.'"

As I've been taking meds and trying to shiver away this fever, I decided to chack out Fartz link ^^up there. The 50 Memorable Real Life Moments article was good, and reminded me what a douche Tony Schiavone was. Yeah, you may be nostalgic now, but his time IN NY sucked, and if he didn't suck Ric Flair's asshole, he'da never gotten rehired in WCW.

Dusty Owns him.


Single Greatest Veiwership Drop in Wrestling



Surprisingly hard to find more

Heenan Bonus. Money shot at the end.



Dusty Bonus. Can't stop laughing.



Tell you what, watching these clips reminds me how bad the announcers are. JR, he's good, they only try to replace him with shit, so he keeps coming back. Lawler is terrible. Give me Dusty, Jesse, Brain, Flair, Gorilla, any day of the week.

UFC's Brock Lesnar was pretty raw when he was in WWE. Ric Flair has said Barry Windham was smooth like butter in the ring. Brock, more like a cheese grater.









Couple other botches:

Nash breaks Big Show's neck


I think this is the guy Vader paralyzed

I've seen KVE's shoot. He really seems like a prick. I dunno. If your family was as horribly fucked up as his, you'd probably be a prick too.

Totally non sensicle Tony Schiavone moment. The Professor is just terrible in this. I'm not sure what the point of this was, other than to shoot for shootings sake.

Nobody tops Dusty Rhodes- in the ring or on the mic. The American Dream summarizes everything that wrestling can ever be or ever was.

Edit: I was either there or it happened in Tampa (I was young, and don't remember specific matches I attended) when Rhodes went heel to face with Pak Song and Playboy Gary Hart. Damn, the battles with Jos and Paul Leduc were something.

Stardust would put you at the edge of your seat, and sometimes make you slip off onto the floor laughing.







Dude gotta tough mullet

I hated Dream in his WWF run. More that I hated his character, which supposedly he was down with. It just seemed undignified...yes, I get the irony of putting Dream and irony i the same sentence.




This is how outside the arena incidents should be filmed. The reluctant camera guy makes it more real.

I forget if it was talked about before, but the tale of Perry Saturn was a sad one. Never a main eventer, but always solid midcard guy. Some say he was the weak link when he jumped to WWE w/ Benoit, Dean and Eddie, but I say if those 3 thought he was good enough to hang with them, that is validation enough.

"Posted 09 August 2004 - 10:54 AM
Article written by Anthony DeBlasi of Wrestling-News.com:

Former WWE , WCW and ECW wrestler Perry Saturn will make his wrestling return after suffering a very serious injury this past April. This was a very serious, and private situation, which he did not want public until he was able to recover.

We are proud to announce that he has recovered, and will return to the wrestling ring on Sept 17th for USA Pro (Jamaica, NY @ The Amazura Concert Hall).

In April of 2004 Perry Saturn was driving his girlfriend to work when he heard what he thought was an argument next to a vehicle. When he approached the vehicle, he saw two men trying to restrain a woman as they were raping her. Without hesitation, he grabbed both men off her, and started fighting with them. As he was able to get the woman free from her attackers, he felt a burning sensation in his neck. He thought originally it was a cut stemming from a punch. However, he learned soonafter he was shot three times in the neck with a 25 caliber handgun.

Perry Saturn now has a steel plate and 3 stainless steel screws where his C-5, C-6 and C-7 vertabre in his neck were badly injured. The good news is that after a very tough and extensive amount of physical therapy and training, he is able to return to wrestling. When you think about it, it's amazing he is even alive, or even able to walk!

Unfortunately, we learned that he did not have medical insurance, and has incurred quite a bit of medical expenses. I'm sure if needed, the wrestling community will open up their arms and assist if the expenses become overwhelming.

As far as his attackers, one man was arrested for attempted murder and rape. That case is still ongoing. No word if the other individual was arrested as well."



He received the Moppy gimmick in WWE for beating down a jobber that botched a move in a dark match. About 2:20

Since he pulled his shit together he's gotten facial tattoos. I'm guessing his shit's not all the way together.

He was pretty rockin' in the Eliminators with John Konus.

Probably the first Stone Cold promo. Definitely foreshadowed his future.

Manny Fernandez fucks up Invader 3 in Puerto Rico. Pretty gory, but an obvious work.

I'm sure Perry got that tattoo during the four years he was fucked up on meth. Also, with further research, some claim he was disappeared for 4 years to get out of child support. Why hide out, just move to Florida if that is the case, that is what everyone else does.

P.S. Francine always annoyed me. Skanky, cracky lookin Philly broad. Surprisingly enough, I believe she is the only ECW chick that doesn't have nude pix floating around. I used to have a SWANK magazine with Beulah in it. When I realized it was her, I spent a lot of quality time with it.

Jim Cornette on the Skywalkers bump. An impression of Dusty telling him what's going to happen, video of the fall, and the trip to the doctor's office.

The face ink is fairly new. When he popped back up in the little interview with Apter, he didn't have it. But on the shoot he did for YouShoot (I think) he was all facialed up.

I'm with you on Francine. Very bad face. But that whore could bump with the best of them. Just look at how she walks. There's some hip problems going on there. I respect her as a worker.

Just think, Tommy Dreamer gets to finger Beulah whenever he wants.

Best story teller in the business. It's funny how far he's come from the spoiled rich kid gimmick. He's just fast talkin Jim Cornette now.

I haven't seen what the broad looks like nowadays. Crap, I'll guess the pics in SWANK were from 94-95.

Nope, copyright 1997. God Bless Google. I think there are one or 2 more sets of her nude out there, but these are the ones from SWANK.



This one was always my fave.


Dreamer is a lucky fuck. Of course those pics are when she was 28 and she's 42 and squirted out twin girls since then, so who knows how lucky he is anymore.

I think it is the Sandman that I have to agree with, that Austin promo was Fucking Awesome. And it reminded me of how horrible it was to have to watch Alex Wright matches.

I've seen her recently. I think on TNA during the Extreme angle. She's put on some weight, but she's still a cutie.

The wrasslin' thread is surprisingly quick on the home computer. Finally got my goddamn avatar right too. At work the last ridiculous Cosby mug was a perfect still of his goofy face. At home it was a grainy gif. WTF?

On topic. I really, really, liked Francine. She had a rockin' body and a real skanky/this broad's up for anything look to her.




@Tatty and jerkman
Glad you liked the site, fuckers. Have you guys ever dropped by the infamous WrestleCrap.Com? It's a celebration of all the buffoonery and just overall craptastic nonsense that the sport has brought to us over the years. One of my favorite parts is the the fake headlines they make up. Fucking hilarious. Here's one of my faves:

RUFUS DETWILER, MAN WHO PLAYED ‘ORIGINAL’ SCOTT STEINER, DEAD AT 46
By Justin Henry

Lusk, WY – Rufus Detwiler, former state wrestling champion, as well as an ex-professional wrestler, has died this past Monday at the age of 46.

Detwiler had been in poor health for some time, battling Hodgkin’s lymphoma since 2005.

Detwiler is perhaps best known for his portrayal of wrestler Scott Steiner from 1986 to 1998, before a shoulder injury forced him into retirement. Since then, bodybuilder Tom Franklin of Cincinnati has taken over the role.

Detwiler marveled fans around the world with his vast array of suplexes and throws, but most of all with his freakishly dazzling finishing move, the Frankensteiner.

Detwiler’s peers are devastated.

“’Rufe’ was a good man, a kind soul, and his athletic prowess inspired us all,” said Tom Zenk, who worked with Detwiler in World Championship Wrestling. “He gave it his all every single night, no matter who he was facing, and it always looked real. I know by the end he was having shoulder issues, and that shortened his career, but I’m sure he had no regrets.”

“Rufus always had a smile on his face, and a one liner to offer,” said Butch Reed, who faced Detwiler in a series of tag team matches. “The locker room was always a looser place when he was around, and it’s a sad turn of events to have lost him.”

Some have noted that Detwiler, unlike Franklin, the second Scott Steiner, seemed to play the role more seriously, and didn’t rely so much on appearance and humor to remain popular.

“I think (Tom) Franklin is a clown,” said Harley Race, a widely respected Hall of Famer, and eight time former World Champion. “Rufus was a skilled athlete that could have excelled at track, wrestling, and possibly modern mixed martial arts. Tommy, however, wouldn’t grow the black mullet, thinking it wasn’t ‘cool’ enough, so he went with the short surfer-trim look. Then he jacked his body up to disproportionate size, and that was his excuse as to why he wouldn’t do the Frankensteiner. What a (pansy). I always hated that (chicken slurper), and I wish it had been he that (sex, present tense) died.”

The question remains: why not retire the Scott Steiner persona on the heels of Detwiler’s retirement?

“I don’t why WCW did that, because it seems like it was the right thing to do,” said Kevin Sullivan, former wrestler and, at the time, lead booker. “Then I remembered I was running the place, so it’s probably my fault. I guess. Everything after 1981 is kind of a haze. Did I ever work with Beefcake? Someone swears I did.”

Detwiler left a legacy of achievement in sport that will continue to inspire, long after his recent passing.

“Somewhere, Rufus is looking down on Rick Steiner, and he’s probably let him know that the hatchet can be buried,” said Doug Hagerty, the second man to play The Ultimate Warrior, as well as the cuter Jumping Bomb Angel. “Bygones are bygones, and somewhere, one day, Rick and Rufus will beat up unassuming Japanese wrestlers again.”


If you've never dropped by, give it a shot. The memories of idiots in underwear settling their differences in the most irrational way possible will come flooding back in droves.

http://www.wrestlecrap.com/index.html

ha i read the wrestlecrap book when it came out. I will def. check the site.
I'm actually kind of bummed the veil is lifted now. Everybody and their dog are doing shoot interviews and/or shooting on guys at matches. Cornette and a few others are great. Most just come off as bitter narcissistic losers.

Hey, they put the World belt on Mark Henry last night. He's finally getting payback for doing the Sexual Chocolate angle w/Mae Young a decade or so ago. Or Micheal Hayes called him a "boy" or a "nigger" one too many times and this is to avoid a lawsuit. Either way good for him.

Titles mean nothing anymore. Mark Henry has no business with a world title. I assume this is transitional until Taker's comeback.

Same with Del Rio. I'm wanting to see a nice Punk/ Cena run.

Totally agree. If the veil has to be lifted, I think they should put more effort into making making programs more believable. First order of business: ditch the "invisible" camera. Have the camera hidden behind a corner or something. It's not fucking rocket science, people!!

Nice, Jerkules, with the Beulah pics. Always heard the rumor(well, guess it's not anymore) but never seen them.

I'm with the majority here with Francine. Never really found her that attractive. I think her voice really killed whatever attractiveness may have been there for me. I went to see an ECW show live in 2000, and was standing outside the building with my buddy waiting for our ride back home. Francine happened to be outside, too. She was trying to get back in the building, but the doors had been locked, so she stood there beating on the doors, screeching at the top of her lungs,"Open the DOOOORRRRR!. Open the DOOOORRRRR!" Woman had a voice like nails on a chalkboard.

Google is your friend MB. Mickey James has some nice nudes out there too.

I thought Francine had the face of a goat, but rocked a great anorexic body. The voice comes natural, she's from Long Island, I think. But she went through Taz's school and never hesitated doing anything that would've been asked of a man. Moolah was nothing to look at, but she was a tough ol' broad. I gotta respect that.

For the most part, the "Divas" are worthless, beginning with that Sable cunt. Had no business being in the ring. Valets and workers are not the same. Beth Pheonix and that Neidhart girl are great workers, but the rest are eye candy that don't know a wristlock from a wristwatch. I like the TNA women's group tho. They're all pretty talented.

I think I've seen the Mickey James nudes. She certainly needs a bare bottomed spanking. She's probably one of the top 10 ever as far as the ladies go.

Speaking of Miss McGillicutty, here is her match with Bill Alfonso. Alfonso said it was pretty much a shoot in the Beulah wasn't pulling any punches. Very bloody affair.



I'm enjoying the CM Punk thing right now. It's gone in some really unexpected directions...which is kind of fun for a change. Miz and Killings fired? Where'd that come from? Miz is the hottest heel going at the moment and Killings is a freshly minted heel. How do you book that? And I'll be tuned in to see how.

That isn't Long Island, Barry. Francine's voice is pure Philly trash. Well, Wiki says born in Delaware, which is practically the same shit.

"you're a five dollar an hour fucking whore!!"

Loved the Dudley's. Gertner was absolutely hilarious. Buh-buh was the king of cheap heat. I don't remember where they were, but he takes the stick, takes a deep breath and calmly announces that "all the women in (wherever they were) are nothing but whores". The lid just blew off the place. Hated. Absolutely hated, were the Dudleys.

Matt Hardy's bitch sold him out.

"Matt Hardy's girlfriend Reby Sky says North Carolina police coerced her into providing evidence against Hardy in order to arrest him last Wednesday.

The 25-year-old model tells TMZ officers "intimidated" and "threatened her" in order to gain information on Hardy's collection of prescription drugs after he was rushed to the hospital for an "adverse drug reaction." Her information to police was enough to obtain a search warrant, which led to Hardy's arrest.

Sky returned home from the hospital to find police at his house after conducting a raid. She says they "threatened her with jail" if she did not answer more questions following the investigation. She then showed officers Hardy's safe containing "numerous Vicodin" pills which he did not have a prescription for.

Sky, who called 911 because Hardy was "strung out on pills," tells TMZ she would have kept her mouth shut at the station if she knew police were accumulating evidence for the warrant—adding, she "would never do anything to put [Matt] in a compromising position with the law." "

In case you forgot what she looks like.

Does model= whore in this case? What's her story?

Those formerly fresh faced youngsters have certainly turned into the poster boys for misadventure. I'd have to guess both of them are in quite a bit of physical pain, especially Matt. Painkillers can get out of control pretty quickly.

On a brighter, here's Ed Wiskowski in his Col. DeBeers punking Jimmy Snuka for no other reason than Snuka being a darkie. Followed up by some classic Snuka coke fueled islander gibberish.



Wiskowski was a very underrated hand. Working as himself, he was an OK heel. Kind of along the lines of a Frank Dusek. But get him in a character, like Col. DeBeers, he really shined. Col. DeBeers was hated the world over. Not bad for an ex- NFL guy.

In the Portland Territory, he worked for awhile as Mega Maharishi, a takeoff on the Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh cult, which was a huge story in the Northwest in the 80's. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhagwan_Shree_Rajneesh I'm sill looking for footage of him in this character.

Ex NFL doesn't have to mean popularity. I'm sure Bill Romanowski would have made a great heal if he had gone into wrestling.