....or have been...all your pseudo conservatarian crap. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts most of you have been on the fucking dole at some point in your disgusting stinking lives.

I ate some dole pineapples before. That count ?

Never. And am not acquainted with anyone that has been, either. Not WIC, not foodstamps or any of that shit.

Never. We were eligible, because our family was poor, but my father refused to participate in those things because to be on the dole was shameful to him. I was employed by the government at one time, in the Navy, and he called that being on the dole as well.

Yeah sure but how pany of your parents? The words of pathogical liars means less than shit.

Umm, what?

Many not pany. You dink a bottle of liquor and see good you spell. Your still a fucking piece of shit.

I was in county lock up for 4 days once. That is it. Never been on the welfare or unemployment.

Going back to my great granddad comin over here from Europe before WW1, none of my dad's family has been, as they were all self employed/employed in the family biddness. Mom's family was judges and high level civil servants, from when they came from the island of potatoes and drunkards.

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If yer lookin for people to share yer Welfare Blues with, Cheezy Poofs, ya better head over to the World Star board.

My spelling improves. I also become funnier, handsomer and more charming.

Both my parents worked 30 years plus. Both were raised by farmers that provided for themselves. My grandpa on my moms side also ran a small country store on a dirt road where they live and where my grandmother babysat me during the day. I worked 25 years for the state of Ky. in Juvenile treatment. Drew unemployment for a couple weeks in my twenties before going back to work. I started working when I was 16 for a furniture store delivering furniture. I've never been on welfare but if I ever need it I'll accept it without shame. I've paid my dues.

This is the central point on both sides, though neither's trying to see it 'cause you all, you each need, hell, insist on beating the crap out of each other.

Everywhere the working man pays his dues, the McConnells and Pauls and the like all says the other (negro, Spico, fago, dago,yugo...) fellow is using the same fucking thing everyone else pays into and it's a fucking crime to youse guys.

Sometimes I think it's the density of youse guys that's the crime.



Fucktards being baited all around.

lot of my white Appalachian neighbors are on the dole of one sort or another. They spend their day complaining that the negro and the mexican are getting a free ride.

I was on unemployment for 18 days when I was maybe 19 or 20. First week is a "waiting" week that you don't get paid for. Total received was under $200. I really stuck it to the Man on that one.

Does Workman's Comp count? I was on it for about 8 weeks when I hurt my back.

I have no beef with folks having a bad time, or needing a hand, or people who are unable to work getting benefits. Those are the people that I think we have an obligation as a society to help.

My beef is the people who milk it, see it as a career, or see it as a family business to be passed down from generation to generation. And my problem is less about laziness than it is about taking services from the people who truly need it. In my 15 glorious years in the Helping Industrial Complex, I've seen it over and over. Finite resources stretched to the breaking point by people who simply refuse to support themselves, at the expense of those who really need the help.

So, your problem is with The Waltons then. Cool.

Not sure how you got there, but OK. I thought they had that lumber mill, but it's been awhile. I'm not sure I remember the ep where they told the kids to live on the dole. Was that the same ep when the dude got pissed because they were teaching Darwin at the school?

i dont get free money or food stamps.

I've never been on welfare, unemployment, food stamps, or anything else. Only government checks I have ever received have been my annual tax refunds. Same with my entire family. You grow up on a family farm you learn to rely on yourself and nobody else.

tl;dr version: Unemployment is not welfare and welfare is an open ended handout and is the realm of the lazy and useless.

Unemployment isn't the dole. Employers pay into a state fund for each employee; like an insurance premium and is administered by the state. In California the first $7K per year of an employees wages are subject to the premium. It can range from 1.x% to 6.x% of the first $7K depending on some indecipherable formula they have concocted. Generally if a company has laid-off/fired a bunch of employees and they have made successful unemployment claims, their rate will be higher.

So in addition to the matching FICA taxes on every employee, the employer pays the unemployment insurance. So if the company is in the highest bracket they could be paying over $400 per employee per year to fund the unemployment fund. Unlike welfare, there is a limit on benefits based on last salary and length of employment (not number of dependents) and the benefits actually terminate at a certain point in time regardless if the unemployed person ever got a job. You must actively look for work during the benefits period and must not refuse any job offers that come your way.

In some cases, the federal government will step in and provide additional benefits after the state ones are exhausted. Those were the "99 weekers" from the Great Recession of 2007. Normally the employer pays a maximum of $42 per employee per year to Uncle Sam to cover the federal program, giving them credit for the employer's state contributions. But in the last few years, half of the states haven't paid back the feds and have reduced the credit, therefore the employer has to pay more to the feds.

I like to tell less my conservative that welfare was "insurance by the super rich to keep the rabble from uprising" and then work that point and see how they adapt.

I meant these Waltons. I assumed everyone hated John Boy on general principles.

Very fortunate income wise. Happy to pay Canadian tax rates. No bad feelings here for people who turn to the Government or others for help.

First off I don't have a clue what you're talking about and second if you're saying we are dense because we don't like others getting some benefit from our labors you are full of shit. I don't care if it helps someone as long as they are trying to help themselves. I hear that bullshit about "blaming poor people" all the time. And thats what it is utter bullshit. If someone needs help thats what we as Americans should be all about. My point is that others try to shame anyone that has worked and has money or makes it on their own as a way of justifying some shit for brains thats never worked a day in their life and raised their kids to do the same. I ain't ashamed of working and I damned well ain't holding anyone back. Just throw some racism and misogyny in there as well and you will have successfully completed an ignorant and transparent leftist bullshit attack. .......if thats what you are saying. If not, never mind.

Oh, you meant "corporate welfare". Not sure what that has to do with hating John Boy, but we all have our kinks, I suppose.

The WalMart family provide more to society than they could take. Does the 3rd generation bastard factory do the same?

No. You don't get to have it both ways. you either believe any kind of "social safety net" is an communist abomination of you don't. Just like pro-lifers can't say they support abortion only in cases of rape or incest.

All taxation is redistribution of wealth. your arbitrary dividing line of what amount is sensible has no more objective meaning than anyone else's.

Why is all taxation redistribution of wealth? You presume that taxation involves a forcible transfer of wealth from me to you, when it is perfectly possible for us to have a system that involves no forcible transfers of wealth at all.

You're out of your fucking mind right? Are we really going to have this semantic argument? All taxation is the collection of money by the sate from private persons or private constructs.....all taxation is "by force"

Yes, taxation is the extraction of wealth by force or threat of force. The distinction is whether the tax money is spent on matters of common interest, like roads and schools, or taken from one party and given to another party. The libertarian objection is not to government taking on certain limited functions of common interest, but rather robbing Peter to pay Paul.

Sure he does, courtesy of the Roberts court. Watch:





Pesky distinction? Not anymore. Thanks to Citizens United, corporations are people too, entitled to all sorts of, erm, entitlements. But that's okay, because they're producers, damnit. Don't believe me? Just listen to this slavishly enthusiastic, utterly unsupported assessment:





And he's right. Their patriotically low wages produce tens of thousands of flesh & blood welfare recipients who cost the taxpayer $6.2 Billion annually.





It's not, but don't let me stop you from shooting yourself in the foot.

I don't bother responding to him anymore. He's too fucking stupid to live. Trying to discuss anything with him only results in degrading your self.

He's stated several times he doesn't care about anything but himself, why would he give a shit about any of this?

Ah yes, of course, you get to become the arbiter of what level of taxation is appropriate under libertariansim. A huge faction would argue total privatization of schools, roads, police and anything else. You sure like to brag about being such a well traveled Dos Equis drinking man of the world but your bullshit stinks just the same no matter if it's in a privatized toilet or a communal privy ditch.

I've always found this interesting. Nike is horrible because they pay whatever to peasants in Viet Nam. WM is evil because of their low wages. Those poor people not making enough. The end game with the nannies is to shut down the Nike plant, to run the WM out of town...if not out of business. When that happens, those poor people making squat will really be in the driver's seat. But the nannies will feel better about themselves for "doing something". Which is what really matters.

To paraphrase the philosopher, yes, I do get to have it both ways. Because it is both ways. A different view of your pro- lifer thing is the pro- choicers who love abortion but have kittens when it's time to put down some murderer. Micro- hypocrisy is everywhere, but lines can be, should be and already are drawn. There are income and other requirements already in place for any of the societal social nets.

Like I said, and I stand by it, we're talking about finite resources. Fewer piglets at the teat means more teat for the ones who really need it. I've never, ever, said that no one needs help. I've been in the fucking trenches for a long time, not just hunting links to "prove" my point. In the real world, we could take actual care of the people who truly need it. But that won't happen until the lazy who don't need the resources are cut off. I'm sure I'm not the one to draw the line between those who need and and those who want. But to pretend there is no line is just willful blindness.

Well, hot damn, NOW you're bleating, Jasper. You got that all figured out, just like they told you, yessir. Anyway, since you've got those, umm, "nannies" all figured out, maybe you could answer one question:

How come they can pay McDrones in Australia ~$15.00 an hour without a crippling rise in prices?







(...and, no, "Whatevah! I do what I want!!!" isn't an acceptable answer.)

Say, doesn't a Big Mac, fries and a Coke cost EIGHT BUCKS in Oz? Here's the menu from a McDonalds in Queensland.

In Manhattan a Big Mac, fries and a Coke costs US$4.80. Unless I'm mistaken, three dollars and twenty cents is a TWO-THIRDS price difference. But maybe Manhattan has an unfair advantage over the wide-open spaces of Queensland thanks to Manhattan's lower cost of rent.

Those prices are in Australian dollars though.

The Australian dollar doesn't equate to the American dollar but it's all part of the bigger and ultimate fucking lie that the ultra rich " earned it" and don't use grotesque means to stay in power. It's so completely sick that people like Barry actually still believe in this carott on a stick. He thinks he's so street smart yet still so naive. In a world dominated by corporate welfare it's still the conversation about " the lazy people" fucking hysterical. And the great libertarian glib nugget about sweat shop workers being greatfull for the fucking scraps they get because they would have NOTHING else. What a mindset. The only reason we can have internet and sofas is from the surplus stolen from the third world

I sincerely hope you are torn apart and raped by a pack of niggrz

Right you are, Steezo. And the Oz dollar now trades at US$0.85. So that eight-dollar combo is only US$6.80, or 43% more than the Manhattan combo. Fair enough. A forty-three percent price difference instead of "no difference" as advanced by the socialists.

Say, who eats at McDonalds anyway? Is it more likely to be low-wage employees or international corporate lawyers? I don't really care if the cost of the Big Mac combo doubles because US$6.80 is quite literally two minutes' work for me, but gosh, I'd imagine that other wage earners — say, a third-class petty officer in the Navy with a young family — might consider a 43% increase in price somewhat burdensome.

This guy pictured below, though, he doesn't actually care about a higher-priced Big Mac combo. Raising the price of labor beyond its marginal value means that this guy here is likely to hold that job instead of some surly illiterate nagger, and the former McDonalds employee who now doesn't have a job is going to find the Big Mac combo much less affordable on his new US$0.00 hourly wage.

As for whether I'll be raped and torn apart by a pack of niggers, that seems unlikely because I live where there are no such animals and visit the United States only rarely. But you might be, if this kind of socialist thinking is not corrected. I'll be praying for you.



As long as we're full of concern for America's lowest-paid wage earners, CxGxPx, let me ask: Do you support the President's gambit to throw open the borders and import millions more illiterate peasants to compete with America's existing corps of illiterate peasants? I don't. I oppose amnesty and open borders, because of the economic violence done thereby to the most vulnerable Americans. Markets work; if the labor market weren't constantly being replenished with new low-wage workers, wouldn't the wages paid at the bottom rungs of the ladder increase naturally?

You know about this, right? Big Mac Index. With you being an attorney, I'm assuming this was all just a leading non-question.

I'm aware of the Big Mac Index, having been a reader of The Economist for about 30 years now. It's a little misleading, as it is based on the "rack rate" for a Big Mac all by itself. Who orders a Big Mac and no fries or drink? Still, it's a good comparison if one understands the limitations. An apposite comparison would be to the cost of a meal rather than just the sandwich. You'll note that a large fries, for example, is three Aussie dollars (about US$2.50). Buck seventy-nine in the States.

Your spouting the same old conservative bunk about how it's really. " good" to keep wages low because of the lie about it keeping prices low. A business will never charge more for a product than people will pay for it. Wages don't determine how many employees are hired . Demand does. Period. If an employer needs x amount if workers they will pay whatever the demand price is. If people were paid a living wage they could pump more money into the economy, unlike the rich who basically horde their income. Product skyrockets while wages stagnate. It's absolute horse shit when the boss claims he can't afford to pay the people more. ...... Reference the " rich don't create jobs" Ted talk.

As far as nig rapists I was talking to Barry

Funny you mention illegal aliens, if your pro capitalist you would be in favor of the cheapest labor force available. I thought you lived capitalism? But like all capitalists you only care about it when it suites your needs. .... We could say the same exact problem with plummeting wages would happen if we kicked millions if people off if welfare and into the low wage work pool

Lots of people, since they banned the tasty deep fryer oil.

Again... to repeat myself in case anyone didn't catch my rant in the breakfast thread.. I want every large town to have at least 1 SuperMcDonald's that serves all the shit that everyone wants. McRibs everyday, Breakfast all day long, Beef tallow french fries, etc.

I also love how fucking rear admiral actually tries to argue that australians don't like having a high minimum wage or that it's bad for their economy. Something that doesn't exist beyond online articles in the dailycaller.

His point was that everything costs more there than anywhere else, which is true. And it's a direct result of the ridiculously high minimum wake causing vendors to raise their prices. Why can you not see something so obvious?

Why can't I see it? Because it's fucking lawyer logic anecdotel evidence bullshit. If it was true then why isn't Australia crumbling into dust? I believe they were one of the only nations to avoid the hardest brunt of the recession. If wages kept pace with inflation the average wage would be ninety thousand dollars a year. The nonsense people like you repeat is shit uses to justify wage undercutting. Why can't you see that? But keep sucking the masters dick and enjoying the freedom to work for two dollars an hour

Whateva. I do what I want.

Because it's neither obvious nor true, Steez. Hell, no less a paragon of Capitalism than Henry Ford proved that if you want to have a consumer-based economy, you have to pay your drones enough to afford the product. Bigger societal picture: The uber-rich have nothing to lose and everything to keep by making it just a little easier for the rest of us. But they won't and history's about to repeat itself. They've got Bourbon Vision, and I don't mean like Whiskey Dick.

There's no reasoning with these kinds of people. They hilariously like to refer to anyone left leaning as having a "naive" view of economics yet get sucked into their own half understood screw ball ideas of how the economy really works based on "their feelings" another slur that is commonly thrown at progressives. .....the idea that the economy would really be better if people were allowed to work for a dollar an hour at the age of 9 because......what? deflation?.......not understanding that deflation has just as HORRIFIC consequences as inflation, if not worse.


I also like how Rear Admiral never answered my question of how he can bitch about illegal aliens undercutting the labor market when throwing people off welfare into minimum wage jobs does the same exact fucking thing.

I didn't notice the question. It's hard to address every point you raise because they are obscured by all the bile. But this one is easy: Throwing people off of welfare reintroduces Americans to employment, while importing Mexican peasants means that unemployed Americans have to compete with both the Mexican peasants who are not Americans as well as the other Americans I'd like to throw off the dole.

What is the basis for your position that Mexican peasants have some sort of right to come to the United States and to remain in the United States?

May I ask, have you ever travelled outside the United States?

OP you sound a bit salty...U MAD BRO?

On this point, I couldn't agree more. As for the rest:






Simplistic is more like it.






:facepalm: Awwww, Jeez, Admiral, not that hoary old chestnut, again. No one believes that one anymore. Fuck, even the guys at the Cato Institute say "It’s sort of a silly thing." Although the last clause in your rather unwieldy sentence is telling.






Rights? Forget about rights. Did you ever consider the kind of tax revenue that could be collected from millions hitherto exempt, and that said revenue might offset some of those corporate tax loopholes you're so handsomely paid to exploit? Or were you relying on that Magic Invisible Hand to write a check to cover it?

I'll let J.B. field this one but I'd only add I don't care about "being an american" and think nationalism is one of the worst poisons in the world....How long does someone have to live and work in this country for you to consider them an american?

As far as the comments about "bile" it's pretty rich considering I only really started using it as much in response to the bile that was already being spewed on a daily basis.

J.B. wants to seem to be some kind of peace keeper but it would be extremely hypocritical for anyone to not admit the average poster here emits about ten times as much as I do.

I'm pretty easy on that point: I consider any US citizen to be an American. Immigrate lawfully and take that oath, you're an American. Get born on US soil by accident, you're an American. Race is not an issue to me — citizenship is. And that is a legal construct. This should not be a surprise, as I am a lawyer and presumably lawyers are interested in and supportive of the rule of law.

Ha, a lawyer. Then admit the ferguson prosecution was a complete farce.

Would it really matter? Beyond the anecdotal evidence of whatever like minded right wing twits you happened to be conversing with when you've traveled abroad on your quest for human traffic?

You should also address how illegal immigration is a part of the larger problem of capitalism. You can't claim to support free markets and not understand how they are intrinsically linked to cheap labor supplies.

Would license plate please complete the following sentence.

"I graduated from _________ University with a degree in _______ studies."

How many times have I called you out on your bullshit and made you look like a total and complete fucking buffoon? I believe it's been at least two specific times now. I'd quit while you're ahead. Pleas explain what degree's you have in x studies to make when you spout off with your own ignorant fucking crap.

In other words I nailed it. Have fun in Idealismland. Eventually you will move out and get an apartment in the real world. Even J.B. knows there is a world of difference between reality and theory.

Who exactly among us here, do you believe is the ivory tower egg head who can afford to not live in "the real world"? That would seem to describe the ultra wealthy. This hysterical assertion you right wing pieces of shit love to glibly describe to anyone who doesn't think the way YOU do.

Economics isn't a hard science, and is filled with its share of crackpots....recently universities have been filled with a revolving door of goldmasachs executives who also worked in the government to help destroy the worlds economy filling young minds with free market filth so the study of economics it's self is facing a very dismal future.


Oh yeah, I just remembered you were the stupid piece of shit that posted some dick sucking tripe about how great the koch brothers are....Here's a story that just came out...a grain of sand in the desert of their destructiveness

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/12/04/3599276/north-pole-koch-lawsuit/

I don't think you really understand how prosecution works either. A prosecutor has an affirmative legal duty not to compel a citizen to endure a trial where the prosecutor, himself, has reason to know, in his professional judgment, that there is no reasonable likelihood of a conviction. Prosecutors cannot put a man on trial simply to satisfy a mob. You are aware that in most cases, the prosecutor will make an indictment decision without referring the matter to a grand jury, aren't you? In this case, however, it was politically impossible to take responsibility for the inevitable decision. A prosecutor with more balls would have simply declined to indict and told the public why.

But in that case "the community" would have rioted...

As for your demand for credentials, I have an B.S. degree from Nowhereville State University in Economics, followed by an M.S. in Economics from a top-ranked state research university where I was a teaching assistant, and then I went to a top law school for the J.D. I was enlisted in the Navy for four years, and held a commission in the Naval Reserve for 16 years. Top Secret security clearance. Travelled to 38 of the United States and four US territories, plus 52 countries. And, here's the kicker: I've been a prosecutor too. Three years. THAT's where I get my ignorant crap from.

Sounds like you are well qualified to explain this.

So you were a prosecutor then you'll admit a prosecutor will rarely side against the cops. You'll admit that the courts and cops don't rally give a shit sbout the vast majority of people they are suppose to" serve and protect" you should concede the main purpose of the legal system is to protect the all mighty private property rights if the rich.


As an economics expect you should concede the incestuious relationship between big business and today's current economic climate. You would admit that Marxian theory for all it's taboo us still considered more valid than praxeology.

All your credentials prove us that your a manipulative sociopath who uses his status in society for your own personal gain. You could use your intelligence and experience to make the world a better place but like. %95 of all lawyers you take the path if the ultra yuppie. But then again selfishness is the greatest virtue in your randian view if the world right?

Jesus, you're so wrong here you deflate most of your arguments. Do a quick search of the percentages of law school grads who passed the bar and their employment rates. If you need help doing the research, there are a shitload of lawyers looking for temp work.

To be clear I was referring to people who have had the level of success that rear claims to have had

The militarization of police isn't just a war against negros in the ghetto it's also a war against you and anyone who isn't an owner of massive amounts of private property.

I do feel reasonably successful (I earn a mid-six figures annual salary and have assets over a million after a divorce), although like anyone else, knowing that there are others who are doing better than me rankles just a bit. I simply acknowledge that jealousy is a stupid motive; jealousy seems to be your animating principle. Coming from a shack in Western Kentucky I feel things have worked out really well for me. But I'm smart, and smart people will naturally do better over time. Top 1% cognitive ability has lifted the Admiral from po' folks to the top 5% of wealth in America; the difference that's held me back, in my estimation, is ethics. I'm too ethical to grab every dollar that's been in front of me to be grabbed. But there are a lot of people who are not smart who got lured into going to law school twenty years later than I did, and I feel sorry for those kids.

So, one sergeant says Darren Wilson didn't know about the strong-arm robbery and you think that means the whole case for his innocence falls apart? Look, any fair-minded person who has looked at all of the evidence would never vote to indict him in this case. And if he had been indicted, he would never have been convicted.

Towards the end of the video you posted, the self-hating honky mentions that the US Supreme Court ruled that you cannot shoot a fleeing felon. The only problem is, yes you can. To quote one of the justices from the ruling in that case: "A police officer may not seize an unarmed, nondangerous suspect by shooting him dead...however...Where the officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent escape by using deadly force."

So basically, you're an idiot who cannot look at this with a rational mind and see the facts for what they are: A punk, thug teenager robbed a convenience store, marched angrily down the middle of the road because he was an angry black youth, cursed at a cop, punched the cop repeatedly in the face, tried to seize the cop's gun to murder him, ran off and then double-backed to try to bull rush the cop to kill him, but he got shot in the head and died.

Yeah and I guess he stopped mid punch.... Or one handed punched because of his ape like strength.... To hand stolen shit to his pal


How many people exactly would have to be lying for you to be convinced? You are such a glib little fuckng turd.

So now your in the top %1 of cognative thinkers on earth? Holy shit is there anything you can't do? Why do you even bless us with your're presence? But your actually so ethical and hold your self back from ultra wealth, you're practically a saint! I don't think you could possibly suck your own dick harder than in that paragraph.

You jelly, bro?

If it's any consolation, I tried sucking my own dick once. It was a failure because my mother caught me. I'm real smart for a bunch of things, but not smart enough to do that with the door locked. By the way, the Admiral's dick is very large.

I can't say top 1% cognitive ability on Earth, because there are a lot of people on Earth, but on IQ tests, SAT, and LSAT, yes — consistently top 1%. Far into it, in fact. I could be a Mensa member if that group weren't so full of nerds.

Is there anything I can't do? Fifty push-ups.

As to why I bless you with my presence, I hadn't previously thought of it as a blessing. The Admiral's just a guy who likes to beat off to porn, take drugs occasionally, and bang whores. That's the Plan of the Day for Christmas this year.

i wish Mensa was full of nerds - to me its full of self-important douchenozzles.

i'd rather take drugs and bang whores in my spare time.

admiral, i took the lsat when i was helping my ex study for it, nailed a 160. too much of a computer nerd for law though. she got a 156 and then accused me of making sure she got a lower score on purpose. sigh.

I'm pretty sure people only join Mensa so they can put the Mensa bumper sticker on their car to let everyone know how smart they are.

It's stupid to tell people how smart one is. Rather, it is better to show them. That goes for doing things like buying a Porsche, wearing expensive suits and, especially, expensive neckties, or flashy accessories like an expensive watch. Putting that money in the bank, to replenish the money the ex-wife took, is even smarter. I don't wear a watch, the shirts are from Brooks Brothers, and rarely wear a necktie. Only when I'm meeting someone else who wears a tie will I strap one on. Every time I think of buying an expensive tie I'll dribble some food on the shirt, which can be washed, and be reminded that it could've been a US$500 silk tie. If I'm going to blow US$500 there better be some bitch's slob on my knob. Like tonight. I found a whore who wants the Kink.com treatment and I'm giving it to her but good. Wish she'd hurry up and get here.

To each his own. I like nice cars and interesting watches. I can't recall who it was, but some billionaire or maybe some financial advisor on a radio show suggested that the one thing you should splurge on is a nice car because it's something you'll get to enjoy every single day.

If I were a billionaire instead of just barely a millionaire I might think differently about that. Realistically, though, I don't live in a place where driving is a pleasure at all. In the near future, I think self-driving cars are going to kill the market for private car ownership. With an app in your pocket you'll be able to summon a car to come pick you up, drop you off, and drive away. And when you need another ride, same deal. No sunk cost in that, no fees for parking (which is a real bitch out here in Asia).

Alaska isn't exactly the most pleasurable place to drive either. I don't have it anymore, but a few years back I had a 911 4S cabriolet with the sports exhaust option and nothing beats putting the top down and blasting down the road under the 11pm June sunshine after a long day.

Sweet.

You guys should join

https://netropolitanclub.com

Neapolitan? fuck that, I hate strawberries.

and I don't have time. I'm still having fun working.

Needing welfare does not make you a POS.

Not me. I fucking hate rich people. Especially the kids of rich doctors, lawyers, etc. They have an unearned sense of entitlement. I remember being out for drinks with all the "rich kids" when everyone came back for Christmas after first semester at college. When the bill for drinks/apps came, they all threw up their hands because they're so used to their parents picking up the tab that they just didn't bring any money out with them. They dined and dashed and I paid my bill separately and left a large tip and then never hung out with those guys again.

Peacemaker? Son, you don't exceed 12,000 posts in this place playing at peacemaking.*

Nah. I'm critiquing your effectiveness, and it sucks. You're allowing the Admiral to carry this... well, debate's certainly not the word, and I'll tell you why:

You're making it all about you, Junior, and it ain't, and that's what lets 'em skip substantive points. (Like the fact that even the Cato institute says the Admiral's full of shit.)












* I'm sure that PipsqueakD will emerge from his hibernation and disagree in six months after painstakingly digesting them all.

Hmmmmmm...






"The for-profit hospital chain Tenet Healthcare announced on Christmas Eve that Jeb Bush would be stepping down from its board of directors by the end of the year. Bush, who has served on the board of Tenet since 2007, is starting to cut his business ties as he explores a run for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. And there's one obvious reason why keeping Tenet on his resume might not look so good politically: Tenet has benefited greatly from the Affordable Care Act, which much of the GOP base is still committed to repealing."



CLICKY

I get that Leftists and the media lap dogs have anointed JB as the GOP nominee, but the cart's just a little in front of the horse.

Actually they keep trying to say how Romney would be such a great candidate to run again, which is ridiculous. It's important for the GOP to not let the media pick the candidate or let democrats cross over and vote in Republican primaries to pick another unelectable candidate. Democrats always say the Republicans should pick someone moderate like a John McCain who they say they could maybe vote for and then they never vote for them in the general election.

I've known John McCain since I was in 8th grade. I worked on his first Senate campaign. He has no desire to run for Prez again. Quite frankly, he's getting a bit curmudgeonly. But even 8 years later, he still admits that caving to the tea party faggots and bringing on Lisa Ann..err...Sara Palin was a horrible mistake. Otherwise, I think he might have done ok. But shit, if he has another heart attack and dies, that fucking cunt has her hand on the red phone? No thanks.

To answer the shitbag OP, I was on welfare for 3 years. They were my mother's SSDI benefits after she died and I was still a minor. But she paid in for many years. It probably paid for two years of private high school. Does that count?

I'm mixed on Palin. Totally bangable cunt. I'm down with her being a huge mistake, but the fact remains that she had more experience period than the good senator from Illinois. Hell, given the choice, I'd rather have neither of their fingers on the button...didn't we get rid of that and get a "restart" button?

But on the other hand, I think her and her family have really gotten shitty treatment since popping up on the national stage. Sure, her Palinisms are definitely fair game, but when a totally unsubstantiated story about her retard kid not actually being hers is bandied about in the mainstream media, it's crossing the line. Not even so much line crossing, but promoting this and ignoring the O sucking off his blow dealer rumor is just not cricket.

Her church was also burned down in an unsolved case of arson a few weeks after the election and you'd be hard-pressed to find any mainstream coverage of the event whatsoever.

Personally, I think she was unqualified to be Vice President. I think McCain saw she had a 60%+ approval rating as a female governor in a Republican state and just rolled the dice without properly vetting her. I don't know who the 60% of the population were who supported her because everyone I know hates her, especially women.

Ewe betcha!

This from the guy who calls the First Daughters "Sausage and Bulimia". Not that it's neither funny nor apt (it is) but geese and ganders, Barry, it's the same shit.

Anyway, you could take Sausage, Bulimia, Roger Clinton, and Billy Carter, toss in a couple of Quayles for their congenital stupidity, inter-breed the lot of 'em for a couple of generations until you've removed every last redeeming feature from the offspring and you'd still have a family more qualified to live in the White House (or the Naval Observatory, where the Veep lives) than the Palins. I'm working on an National Science Foundation grant to prove this.

McCain was a very common sense republican - good on compromises and got things done. But he caved to their wing's extreme end and he got fucked.

i'm even missing Nixon these days.

When you think about it, so many GOP Veeps just had no gravitas. GHWB was very good--but the GOP turned on him because he was too commmon-sense.Jack Kemp was the Veep nominee in 1996--solid. But shit, they had Spiro Agnew, Dan Quayle (don't get me started on his douchebag son--he was too much, even for Arizona), Cheney, potentially Palin. I don't even remember who Romney's VP nominee was. And remember Admiral Stockdale, who got tapped to run with Ross Perot? A great Navy man, but totally wrong for the #2 job.

I'm not a journalist, for starters. I'm just a crabby malcontent with no real voice. I was talking apples vs. oranges media coverage. Plus "Sausage and Bulimia" has a backstory.

I also agree(d) that she was a train wreck as a candidate...with more experience as an executive that the top man on the Dem ticket that go 'round. The fact is that Palin and Obama...throw in Biden, because he's a knucklehead...were/ are unqualified for the tall chair.

Paul Ryan IIRC

It was Ryan. He's my dream date for '16.

I havnt logged in about two weeks and this is what I have to put up with? I'm very offended some one swapped my child murderer avatar with cartman. I don't get it I thought cartman hates liberals

QOTD

Heehee. Retard.

Blow me you fucking four foot tall n1ggr

Apparently willie d is such a bored fucking no life loser sack of shit he thinks it's so clever to replace my avatar with south park characters when I'm not even fucking here. But you wouldn't expect much else from a shit stain with a fourth grade education that was on fucking welfare. Do you understand what cognative dissonance is you pee brained cum wad? It's the definition of that shame you feel. You're like the gigantic tub of shit from American history x. You actually were allowed to be a campaign worker? Maybe you got lucky and mama palin let you eat a load of diaper shit left by her mutant agent orange skulled mongaloid spawn after a hard day of stapling up flyers

That damn WillieD!

Retards hate being called retards.

Obviously a huge influence on your life. None of the rest of us will remember a specific character from that dumbass movie beyond Ed Norton.

For what it matters I have never worked a day in my life..!


And I'd say it was erkul who changed you av..

Wasn't me. The person who did it said so in a thread when he did it. Y'all should go try to find it.

C'mon I spend like ten minutes a week here I aint gonna look for Jack-Shit..

But I don't have to look I all ready know..There is only one Coward/Weasel Mod who would do that..

Ohh let me guess I'm about to go on another trip.

What a fucking loser..

And I'm not a mod, but it's all my fault.

Are you also the guy who was always hacking Panzer's acct?

Democrats got about 20 million more votes in the last election but got slaughtered because of the electoral collage, two senators per state and jury meandering. Fuck this ancient "democratic republic" crap. Why does a wothless piece of shit state like Wyoming or Idaho get the same amount of senators as a megalopolis ? I'd rather have "mob rule"'than the bullshit we have today.

At first I was snickering over the electoral collage, but then: Jury meandering! Was your Constitutional law professor named Barack Obama, by any chance?

Gerry, excuse me. Did I write collage instead of college? You should have made some arts and crafts joke.

Doesn't change a god damn fucking thing

Gerrymandering

Theres always an excuse from libs when they lose. Never the true one. They fucking suck.

God hates facts

You get stupider every day you senile old piece of shit

A Public Enemy logo. How edgy and dangerous 25 years ago.

I agree, but from YOU: More facts, please, and better spelling, 'Cause you're helping the fascists the way you're going at it, with your dearth of either.

And fer fuck's sake, a little less vitriol with the old man. Yeah, he's incorrect, but he's old. A bit befuddled perhaps, but ultimately harmless and, honestly, quite a decent guy beyond the politics. Save the vitriol for (1) the paid shills, and (2) the folks who hilariously and habitually argue against their own self-interest. You will find both in this thread and throughout the board.

I rag on BDM almost exclusively about guns and it's because the guns from his part of the country wind up killing innocent people in my city, most recently and blatantly two damn good cops. If they stayed down there, I couldn't care less what they did with 'em.

I hate to quote myself but...




HINT. Here's a guide to the former:

I mean, seriously, there's plenty of debates that you quash solely by virtue of your horrid personality:

It's too bad nobody's worked out a way to make Andy Borowitz funny.

^Well, of course he's not funny when he's mocking you, Shill.

The fact that JB is carrying fbf's water speaks volumes.

Hmmm. Statement seems a little odd as you kept bringing my name up in a positive light when you were ripping Ricky bungsmell up in my Jesus thread.

As far as JBs comment about guns he might be shocked to know im pro gun. The right and the left both try to bestow fetishistic powers to inanimate objects. I take more the Marxist view they they are just tools and it depends on who's using them. Just like the libertarian view "the government is bad" is wrong because it is also just a tool that depends on the structure created by the users. ie the ruling class

I do believe there is far too much idiotic gun violence in the USA and a disproportionate number of rightwingers who own them. The left should arm themselves on the same levels

Only Barry could possibly interpret any of that as carrying the Pimply kid's water.

Well, you got your wish. They Are, and in ways that will make Barry and the Admiral shit their pants.

How can you forget Ethan Suplee's role in American History X... I mean this part is just hilarious...



The fact that anyone would drive a Dodge just adds to the whole scene.

You should have an "Arm the Homeless" on your kit like Morello has on his guitar.

If you're in the right, I'll say it.

How do you intend to overcome the phenomenon where no matter WHO you put in charge of government, that group becomes the ruling class?

Greed for money and power always trumps ! Regardless of the system apparently.

seven deadly sins, baby

Study Marx . If you say. "Socialism is the same as communism". I'll know you're lying when you answer me big brain

Your answer is the ultimate defeatist apology for the status quo by the way. Even a cynical used up asshole like me can see that.

The only way out would seem to be permanent revolution, a la Trotsky, but you inevitably end up with an ice pick to the brain.

Trotsky was a piece of shit that got what he deserved

Man, gimp box boy isn't getting along with anyone these days. Let's hope Stalin spares him while he's in the cellar.

I obtained free groceries from The Salvation Army.