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#404543 - 03/11/09 05:31 AM
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Porn Jesus
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It seems to me that what we see are the results of greed and bad business practices. Banks and the people who took loans without thinking about how they could pay for it (in some cases the banks doing shady deals) toppled the housing market which trickled down to other sectors. I am still amused that while the housing problem is constantly talked about no one seems to see that the same thing might occur when all this credit card debt comes home to roost. Credit cards are not a magic money machine, the bill needs to be paid at some time. Banks just keep handing them out and people just keep spending on them and owing.
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#404545 - 03/11/09 03:49 PM
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British Cabinet Chief Gus O'Donnell says the new Obama government is almost impossible to work with. He is having trouble even getting in touch with key personnel. “There is nobody there". “You cannot believe how difficult it is.”
Maybe everyone is in the conga line every time he calls!
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#404546 - 03/11/09 04:22 PM
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He means there is nobody is the senior positions at the Treasury. In the middle of the worst economic meltdown since WW2 Obama has filled one (1) of the 19 top positions at Treasury. There were a couple of nominations Monday. There is a holdover as assistant secretary for terrorist financing, not likely to play a leading role in this crisis.
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#404550 - 03/11/09 11:20 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
Registered: 08/04/06
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Fuck everybody else! I personally feel no need to do anything to help people who won't take it upon themselves to improve their lot in life. Even whores are better. At least a whore realizes their best asset is their body and take the steps to maximize their return to improve their life.
I work hard, I make my own money, I pay my own way & shelter every dime I legally can. If anybody wants to get ahead, they need to do the same.
It must be wonderful to know with absolute certainty that you will NEVER have a catastrophic illness or accident where, even if your insurance doesn't disallow the claim on a technicality, it would set you back hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars out of pocket.
I fail to see how other modern countries (so-called Socialist countries) can provide all of these types of social services at tax rates not far off from what we currently pay and we don't even get half of the services they do. Tatty, what % do you pay in taxes in Canada Fatman, how about you?
In the US the average citizen pays almost 55% of his total income in taxes and we certainly don't get what we pay for.
Federal personal income tax 17% to 25% rate. It ranges from a credit up to well over 40%.
State & local income taxes 10.1% State taxes range from under 6% to over 12%. Local taxes run from zero to 2.75%.
Sales tax 8.6% Figure is the average rate. State sales taxes range up to 7% and local taxes run from zero to over 5%.
Social security & Medicaid 7.65% Total rate is actually 15.3% since half is paid by the employer, but we're ignoring that to be kind. Source, box 1 Federal corporate income tax share 3% Based on corporate taxes being approximately 1/6 of personal taxes, and that they are paid by individuals in the final analysis.
Property tax 2.5% Yearly average actual costs range from under $200 in Alaska to almost $1900 in New Jersey.
Fuel/gasoline tax .5% Approximately 23% of the 2005 gasoline price is for federal & state taxes. The federal excise tax is 18.4 cents per gallon. Per the CPI, about 6% of the average budget is for transportation. Estimated.
Other 5% Includes estate tax, fees, licenses, inflation losses, inheritance, deficit allowance, gift, and others too numerous to mention. Estimated.
A partial list of the various ways in which citizens of the US are taxed:
* Accounts Receivable Tax * Building Permit Tax * Capital Gains Tax * CDL license Tax * Cigarette Tax * Corporate Income Tax * Court Fines (indirect taxes) * Deficit spending * Dog License Tax * Federal Income Tax * Federal Unemployment Tax (FUTA) * Fishing License Tax * Food License Tax * Fuel permit tax * Gasoline Tax * Hunting License Tax * Inflation * Inheritance Tax Interest expense (tax on the money) * Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges (tax on top of tax) * IRS Penalties (tax on top of tax) * Liquor Tax * Local Income Tax * Luxury Taxes * Marriage License Tax * Medicare Tax * Property Tax * Real Estate Tax * Septic Permit Tax * Service Charge Taxes * Social Security Tax * Road Usage Taxes (Truckers) * Sales Taxes * Recreational Vehicle Tax * Road Toll Booth Taxes * School Tax * State Income Tax * State Unemployment Tax (SUTA) * Telephone federal excise tax * Telephone federal universal service fee tax * Telephone federal, state and local surcharge taxes * Telephone minimum usage surcharge tax * Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax * Telephone state and local tax * Telephone usage charge tax * Toll Bridge Taxes * Toll Tunnel Taxes * Traffic Fines (indirect taxation) * Trailer Registration Tax * Utility Taxes * Vehicle License Registration Tax * Vehicle Sales Tax * Watercraft Registration Tax * Well Permit Tax * Workers Compensation Tax
Source: http://www.nowandfutures.com/taxes.html
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. What the hell happened?
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
Or more specifically...people like Charin happened.
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#404553 - 03/11/09 11:30 PM
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Kurt Lackwood's Fluffer
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U.S. households in the top 20 percent of the income distribution own well more than 80 percent of the nation's wealth.
If I own a company worth $100 Billion,that wouldn't mean that I have $100B. The money earned by that company would go towards paying my employees and suppliers(would pay their employees and suppliers, who would pay th...etc...wow,if only there was a name for this?!!??!),so what exactly is the problem with the rich getting richer,presuming they've earned it and not just taken it(i.e. Madoff,Stanford,Byrd,Pelosi,Obama).
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We need distributive justice.
-Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
We have that. It's called gainful employment.
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#404554 - 03/12/09 04:44 AM
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#404555 - 03/12/09 07:25 AM
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Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids. What the hell happened?
Yeah, 1909, those were the days. No Unions, low taxes, none of these pesky safety and environmental regulations. No Social Security taxes. Lower health care costs. A robber baron could keep almost all his profits! Life was grand!
Today 100 Years Ago: Saturday, Feb. 27, 1909:
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Says Western Jobs on Farms Are Myths; Bowery Mission Makes a Test of a Demand From Nebraska for 1,000 Men; Told All Places Are Filled; The Bread Line Diminishing, but Secretary Earl Estimates There Are Still 150,000 Idle Men the City
Chuck, Vegetarian fanboy
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#404557 - 03/12/09 12:58 PM
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Pervert
Registered: 12/26/07
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Yeah, 1909, those were the days. No Unions, low taxes, none of these pesky safety and environmental regulations. No Social Security taxes. Lower health care costs. A robber baron could keep almost all his profits! Life was grand!
Right, it was a lot harder for the stupid, undisciplined (drink?) and untalented before mooching became institutionalized. The left did great job of subverting our founding principiles.
I guess the real Americans (descendents of the original English colonists) became too lax. They let in too many immigrants from places where foreign collectivist philosophies prevail.
Quite the opposite, my friend. The Reagan revolution would have never been possible without the influx of immigrants from places like Eastern Europe and Cuba. Those people had experienced socialist "progressive" ideas in practice and were, therefore, naturally drawn to the political philosophy based on ideas such as individual responsibility and capitalism. On the other hand, the baby boomer generation, largely consisting of "pure" Americans of Anglo or German ethnic background along with some Italians and other western European ethnicities was completely in love with communism, resulting in such wonders as Jimmy Carter and George McGovern.
Don't believe me? Look at all those old farts controlling liberal institutions like the Democratic party or departments of gender studies and humanities in general at the collages and universities. You won't find any immigrants among them.
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#404558 - 03/12/09 02:04 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 03/22/07
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Middle East studies is chalk full of immigrants extolling the virtues of Khomeini. There are also quite a few Latin American studies professors who want to liberate the southwestern part of the U.S. back to Mexico where they think it rightfully belongs that are immigrants.
Edited by the unknown pervert (03/12/09 02:05 PM)
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#404559 - 03/12/09 10:56 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 06/22/07
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Quite the opposite, my friend. The Reagan revolution would have never been possible without the influx of immigrants from places like Eastern Europe and Cuba. Those people had experienced socialist "progressive" ideas in practice and were, therefore, naturally drawn to the political philosophy based on ideas such as individual responsibility and capitalism. On the other hand, the baby boomer generation, largely consisting of "pure" Americans of Anglo or German ethnic background along with some Italians and other western European ethnicities was completely in love with communism, resulting in such wonders as Jimmy Carter and George McGovern.
Don't believe me? Look at all those old farts controlling liberal institutions like the Democratic party or departments of gender studies and humanities in general at the collages and universities. You won't find any immigrants among them.
I was going back much further than Reagan. American culture was devastated when its newspapers began being owned by "progressive" Jewish gold traders from Europe with names like Sulzberger and Pulitzer. Jewish immigrant labor leaders like Samuel Gompers built massive organizations that became havens for all manner of communists and socialist scum for decades. Jewish immigrant radical writers like Emma Goldman were all about seducing our idiot college kids with romanticized interpretations of communism. And let's not forget that Italians and Jews introduced organized crime to American cities. All of this was new to America at the turn of the last century. Who knows what later problems could have been avoided with by keeping earlier immigration policies in place (which favored the types of people already here - English, Scottish, Dutch, German etc).
I get what you're saying about individual new immigrants not controlling liberal institutions. But unfortunately the latino/pro-illegal lobby (like La Raza, etc) is very influential because of their out of control numbers.
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#404564 - 03/13/09 08:49 AM
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Whoremaster
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UPDATE: Luckily for America, Odumbu has his priorities straight. The Odumbus "are trying to push the vibrancy of Washington night life to the forefront." Yay! http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/03/13/Obamas_mixing_Everyman_high_society/UPI-12051236951758/Maybe they should think about the day lives of poor Washington children who've been able to attend private schools (like the Obama girls' Sidwell Friends Academy) in recent years under the Choice program. They're all going to have to go back to horribly inferior DC public schools because Odumbu is keeping a promise to the teachers' union (that doesn't want to have to compete - because it can't).
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#404566 - 03/13/09 01:42 PM
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Porn Jesus
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This is the stupidest thread I have ever seen. And considering some of the ones I have started I'm complimenting the OP.
Coke: It is not interesting or funny to pick on the president. People are going to be doing it every day he is in office. What is your point? All of us have access to news sources. How is any of this novel or interesting at all?
Everyone else: stop encouraging this dipshit. When he makes a thread ignore it. You are getting trolled.
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#404567 - 03/13/09 02:47 PM
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Whoremaster
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Yeah, Obama incompetence is pointed put all the time by the liberal mainstream media! NBC, CBS, CNN, the NY Times & the Wash Post are gunning for him! And since you're from Canada, you must really know what the fuck you're talking about.
You're correct about this thread. It is far less interesting and thought provoking than your "Florida Bestiality Ban Nears" contribution.
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#404568 - 03/13/09 02:51 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Thank you Coke for pointing out what I have already pointed out. You fail as a forum poster.
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And considering some of the ones I have started I'm complimenting the OP.
Coke felt the need to point out:
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It is far less interesting and thought provoking than your "Florida Bestiality Ban Nears" contribution.
Yeah? No shit.
I already admitted that I started threads that weren't so interesting.
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#404569 - 03/13/09 02:52 PM
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Now, now. Coke provides balance: The pro-Obama crowd has elaborator; the anti-Obama crowd has Private Maggot.
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#404570 - 03/13/09 02:59 PM
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Whoremaster
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C'mon, you were doing the bitch thing where you say "I look terrible" so everyone reassures you with "no! you look beautiful". You're not able to see the forest for the trees. You think you know how uninteresting your contributions are, but you have no idea.
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#404571 - 03/13/09 03:05 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Yeah, but I try to contribute. I don't just troll. You come off as an ignorant slave to your beliefs while I just try to post bizarre news stories. Take that for what you will.
If you want to complain about my posting of news please do.
What fields were your degrees in again? I don't remember.
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#404574 - 03/13/09 03:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
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What ARCADE did you say you worked at? LOL
Have you confused jobs with schools?
Edited by conquistador (03/13/09 03:36 PM)
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#404575 - 03/13/09 04:25 PM
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Whoremaster
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Wow, you're to ignorant to recognize that working at an arcade means you couldn't possibly be a bigger loser. I'd be more proud of a job at Taco Bell.
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#404576 - 03/13/09 04:29 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Coke: Quote:
You're correct about this thread. It is far less interesting and thought provoking than your "Florida Bestiality Ban Nears" contribution.
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For the love of God, please post more links to news stories saying Florida might change bestiality laws.
You have an awful lot of interest in this. Maybe you truly are an 'ass-fucker'?
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#404579 - 03/13/09 05:13 PM
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British Cabinet Chief Gus O'Donnell says the new Obama government is almost impossible to work with. He is having trouble even getting in touch with key personnel. “There is nobody there". “You cannot believe how difficult it is.”
Maybe everyone is in the conga line every time he calls!
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He means there is nobody is the senior positions at the Treasury. In the middle of the worst economic meltdown since WW2 Obama has filled one (1) of the 19 top positions at Treasury. There were a couple of nominations Monday. There is a holdover as assistant secretary for terrorist financing, not likely to play a leading role in this crisis.
In their defense, the NY Daily News makes a good point in Today's Editorial:
Free Geithner: Congress must stop glomming treasury secretary's precious time
Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner has some pressing duties these days like, oh, saving the world financial system. So why won't Congress stop bogging him down and getting in the way?
The way the House and Senate have been commandeering his time, you would think Geithner has only one responsibility - and that is to testify in front of legislative committees.
In the eight business days since last Tuesday, Geithner has been summoned to Capitol Hill no fewer than five times to talk at length about the banking system and the economy.
The House Ways and Means Committee was first up in grilling Geithner last week. The next day, the Senate Finance Committee took its turn. The day after that, the House Budget Committee got in its licks.
This week, the House Democratic caucus questioned Geithner behind closed doors about - and this is rich - why he's not doing more, faster, to solve the financial crisis. Yesterday, the Senate Budget Committee threw questions at the guy.
All told, Congress gave Geithner just three business days of late to concentrate on his true work. And they wonder why he hasn't gotten around to filling every one of the top staff position at Treasury.
The House and Senate should agree: They'll invite Geithner sparingly and put their questions to him through a joint panel. Enough of this blah-blah nonsense.
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#404580 - 03/13/09 06:35 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Coke said:
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And since you're from Canada, you must really know what the fuck you're talking about.
You can't tell the difference between schools and jobs or where someone lives and where someone is from?
I live in Canada. I'm From Pennsylvania. And you should stop posting.
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#404582 - 03/13/09 07:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
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He should stop posting at least till he produces evidence of his degrees. No?
So far the only education Coke can prove he has is an elementary school one.
Yet he has claimed to have so much more...
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#404583 - 03/13/09 07:31 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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He should stop posting at least till he produces evidence of his degrees. No?
So far the only education Coke can prove he has is an elementary school one.
Yet he has claimed to have so much more...
The only thing coke is qualified to do is suck cock, but then again, that's how he got his degrees anyway.
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#404591 - 03/14/09 12:05 PM
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Jewish immigrant labor leaders like Samuel Gompers were buliding labor organizations which became havens for all manner of commies and pinkos.
Ummm, Maggot? Gompers hated the Wobblies and Debs. Actually, it's safe to say that Gompers is one of the main reasons American Labor didn't turn red, as it did in much of Europe.
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