Originally Posted By: Rear Admiral
Originally Posted By: PrimeD

Since reusing old material's spread here, I still wonder why Christian didn't bring a camcorder when he visited Phoenix Marie in the hospital after the bottle damaged her rectally and pitch it to Naughty America under the name Bitches In Pain.

Tell us this story, since you know so much.

Originally Posted By: PrimeD
That's resourceful on your end, rectal authority figure.
I wonder how your stuff would look like with a bit more drive put into it.

That was the story of a joke I did on the board a few years ago and the basics are already included.
The little bitching above let me recall the subject of your curiosity.

Phoenix Marie did a porn shoot which was streamed as either the inaugural or one of the first episodes of Brazzers Live, MindGeek's - then Manwin's - take on the so-called future of porn, because people can get some shoutouts and screen names mentioned by whores while they're getting fucked and stroke it like champions simultaneously.
It has to be good then. No one can record the stream or upload the download provided a few weeks afterwards anywhere. Storage is expensive and limited. The internet is complicated.

At the time of that shoot, Phoenix Marie was in a relationship with Christian and, as far as I remember, the guy watched the live stream with some people he hung out with. They saw the bottle action and Christian wasn't amused, got shit from his homies and online blather ensued with his active participation.

The severity of her injuries let her seek medical help and she was hospitalised for treatment, where Christian visited her.

Considering about everything disgusting's available on video with something vaguely sexual added and then named pornography, I wondered why he didn't become creative right then and there, standing beside her bed in the hospital. Mommy Got Boobs, Pornstars Punishment, Teens Like It Big. Bitches In Pain would fit right in their lineup.

Corrections, bitching, moaning and general boredom might follow.

Originally Posted By: christianxxx
1. I was directing & producing for Naughty America, the ZZ competition and so of course the owner, head of production, and other top executives were all watching the show live with me when this occurred.

2. she suffered zero injuries from jamming the champagne bottle inside her.

3. months later, she did become very ill from her IUD getting infected and spent 10 days in the hospital (turns out IUDs are for girls that only have 1 sexual partner)

Originally Posted By: PrimeD
My recollection wasn't that made up then.

2. would've been too legal anyway.

I'd like to know Christian's take on the online bitching which, I think, went down on the Naughty America forums.

Originally Posted By: adv0cad0
You shouldn't bring it up, it was six years ago!

Originally Posted By: Jerkules
Was she the whore who had the cork blast her innards while inserting a champagne bottle? I seen a gif of it, but I thought it was a regular cam whore.

Originally Posted By: christianxxx
no not her

Originally Posted By: PrimeD

There's something off here.

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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
Photo shopped cock?

Originally Posted By: PrimeD
That appears to be the case here and elsewhere, not with the same whore fucker.

The company seems to have started to do this type of retouching this year.

Originally Posted By: adv0cad0
Interesting if true. This scene is no longer up on Brazzers. I thought they only took down PSP scenes or because the whores were too fat.

Originally Posted By: PrimeD
Moderately interesting, considering the quality of their current output.

Brazzers fuck around with scene availability for a variety of reasons and Pornstars Punishment (PSP) is by far not the only material which vanished.
The scene in question here, entitled "The Cuckold Spa" with Rachel Starr and Keiran Lee for their Real Wife Stories (RWS) theme, might pop up as a new update in the future - or not. It's not very transparent over there. The preview still links are still live in any case.

Someone on the Brazzers forum put it this way:

"This my educated guess/informed opinion since VISA has to wage the benefits/losses with other businesses and unions. They don't want Brazzers to portray any type of blatant sexual crimes that can be inferred from flawed script/scene design.

PSP was taken down because of the simulated rape/sexual assault. Any type of resistance by one person that engages qualifies it. the several -Philias also come into play. Forced asphyxiation, groping, or other violent acts were taken down. So several DP/GangBang scenes were dropped. Certain scenes like the Chanel Preston BWB in seran wrap had some slight violent choking as well as many of the dropped HAM scenes. Several HAM scenes portrayed bullying/coercion where one person was taken on by 2 or 3 people and constantly berated like that Juelz Ventura 4 way HAM scene. To battle around this, they are building in dialogue where the victim clearly consents before any possible violations and to have it more back and forth(or just completely tame altogether)

Violence is a no-no, so any scenes where a person is attacked, like the Alexis Texas PLIB with the shovel or the Asa Akira RWS series got dropped.

Certain scripts did not clarify the ages of the actors they portrayed, so most scenes in High school settings were dropped especially if it insinuated statutory rape or underage use of drugs.

Drugs is the main thing, since rape is so intertwined with drug use. So many scenes involving alcohol use, underage use of tobacco, or narcotics were dropped. Think of the Diamond Foxxx scene where she passes out and is groped and such in her sleep or the Adrennalyn DA scene where they appear consume marijuana.

Aside from violence, drugs, and possible underage depictions. Scenes where one party is unconscious, like several DA scenes, had to be dropped. The Frankenstein(for depicting an undead creature) gangbang and several sleeping scenes can be viewed as necrophelia. The Audrey Bitoni/Madison Ivy DA scene wont come back because Madison portrays a mentally ill person.

Aside from that it's licensing, copyright, likeness clauses, etc I believe. The deleted DWAP scenes, I'm not sure about but it might be a case of indecent exposure and not acquiring proper consent. I noticed how most DWAP normally have the explicit acts in a controlled environment and not necessarily pure exhibitionism aside from that skydive with KLK and few others.

But again, this is just an informed opinion, I dont work for any parties in the dispute, this is just the pattern I picked up on reviewing these scenes and how that could be interpreted in a court of law under the legal definitions."


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