On 19 of the 21 charges against him.

It's being touted by the press that he's not guilty. I'm sure they have no agenda.

Well, the aiding the enemy charge might have been a bit of a stretch. Even without that charge he is looking at a long time in prison. Someone in the comments section of an article on the verdict made a good point: most leakers say what the government did wrong, show the relevant documents, and leave it at that. Manning released 700,000 documents on the Internet. Maybe he didn't aid the enemy, but whatever that is, it sure as hell isn't whistle blowing.

I blame is NCO's and Commander. They should have known this guy was a nut and taken him off duty and began out processing procedures. Grew up on and around naval bases and would see MANY guys getting "separation" from the military every time it was time to get a new ID card.

I guess desperate times calls for lower standards.

He won't have an appointment with the firing squad but he'll probably get a good 30-40 years from the judge. I can't believe his commander couldn't tell the little fruit was a major security blowout just waiting to happen, especially when Warren kept begging to be pulled out of that unit. He'll be roaming the dales of Wales once he's out; mummy's boy'll go back home to a kinder, gentler nation. That is, if some prison bubba doesn't get him first. He's lucky the Taliban didn't paint a wall red and white with his brains.

He is a wee lad.

Those niggas just wanna get paid. They don't give a hoot about anything other than getting paid. Its the same as police, fire department and the hospitals. All of them are in it for the dough.

report what crimes the government is committing and go to jail. Sell out your neighbor for growing a few pot plants and get a reward. This country sucks.

Love being out of the loop. Never even heard of this fucking guy. What is he, like thirteen years old?

Mentally, yeah, about that.

Judge handed down a 35 year sentence, and he could be out in 8 years. Credit for time served is 4 years, and would be eligible for parole roughly 12 years into his sentence.

He better invest in a kevlar chastity belt to protect his backside. If he's smart he'll get his BA/BS and even a JD. Silly punk. Could have been a hero releasing the video of the helo attack but he had to get all those embarrassing cables in the mix and involve himself with Assange. Lucky the judge didn't give him 60.

So will Chelsea be going to a mens or womens prison? Der !

And why the fuck did it take this long for this comical tidbit to come out?

I guess he wants tricare/champus to pay for the estrogen therapy and the implants. He always wanted to be a girl! That's why he joined the Army.

History will recognize him as a hero once the Amerikan empire is burned to the ground like Rome.

And here I thought the People's Front of Judea was all post-wombinal.

Leavenworth won't pay for that, so everybody involved is going to have to lawyer up. Looks like "Chelsea" doesn't want to leave the spotlight.

he? is simply stating that his asshole is open for business and thereby removing the sodomy card from the deck of terror that is supermax federal penitentiary.

are all your heroes transgendered?.

Why just one "k" in "Amerika" instead of three? Don't want to go full retard?

I couldn't care less about his sexuality.

So not full retard. Good for you. Never go full retard.

What if said retardation is alcohol or drug induced? I the meanwhile, eat a loaf of shit.

This dick got life in prison for killing 16 civilians.


Robert Bales

You always hurt the one you love.

that's day one xpt. you know better.

They should have given him a medal. But we also should have allowed Panzer's people to exterminate every last one of them 30 years ago.

The survivors' family members where whining about the lack of justice. I guess they wanted to personally stone the dude to death or cut him into pieces. Village/raghead justice. Sobering.

Interesting contrast between Nadal and Bales. Bales is a textbook case of a guy breaking. No pre- planning, no emails back and forth with Matt Hale or Glenn Beck. He seems sincerely ashamed about the way things panned out. Not to excuse him in any way. Fucker committed a crime and should be punished. And the punishment seems about as fair as it can be.

Then we have Nadal. Red flags everywhere, and I seriously doubt he shares his cell with shame or regret.

I don't know. Sure he's definitely guilty of a crime, but what were the real ramifications of his leaks? We all found out that the government is chock full of idiots and retards that make up the majority of the retail and food service industry. I'm not sure about the rest of you, but I wasn't shocked in the least.

Ramifications aren't that important when it comes to treason. I'm blanking on the guy who spied for Israel, but he's been in the joint forever. Miss Manning went in with open eyes and knew what the consequences were. I realize everything is a reality show with no blowback to 20somes, but this is the real world.

Look at it this way. The guy from As I Lay Dying wanted his wife gone. He put out feelers, found a contractor and went to make final arrangements with the guy. Contractor was a cop...as they sometimes are. Handcuffs and perp walk. The wife was never in danger, but he's still going to do time.

Absolutely. I was just emphasizing the cause and effects of what he actually did. Were'nt these the emails where we found out that the fed was making fart jokes and gossiping?

You're correct, of course, but there were dozens of red flags around PFC Pipsqueak as well. This is an unstable person who should never have been inducted in the first place.

On another note: I don't get why he/she is adamant about changing his/her first name, as opposed to his/her last name, since, by his/her own admission, he/she doesn't want to do any manning any more.

Just call him a dude JB; no need to be politically correct here.

What Snowden and Manning don't get...

Goddamn I am sick of all this gender identity bullshit. I'm all for equal rights and all that, but I refuse to call a he a she just because some dude up and decides he's a woman. If I all of a sudden wanted to identify as a black person, I would not expect peoole to label me as such. It's ridiculous and it needs to stop.

I was contrasting Nadal and Baler, the guy who shot up the Afghan village. But yeah, there were red flags up the wazoo on Chelsea.

It doesn't bug me that he's adamant about the new name and identity and such. It have to admit it chaps my hide that the media just starts calling him Chelsea and "her". It's not up for discussion, it's just the way they present it and the viewers can go fuck themselves. Because the fact is they can do whatever to him...his parts, his hormones...but he will be a he until he dies. Fact. And for them to say otherwise is a lie. And worse, it's biased reporting. It's agenda driven.

I don't have a beef with someone I know who wants to be identified as whatever. I'll do that because I know them and it's a respect issue. But they will never be the other gender, the other color, the other whatever. We are who we are.

I'm a very courteous person and would do the same for a friend or loved one who requested the same, but it still wouldn't stop me from rolling my eyes and wondering why the fuck they don't just identify as gay like the rest of em' when they turn their backs.

The Oprah-loving crowd have it made. It's going to be, is Chelsea getting hormone therapy, is Chelsea lopping off bits, is Chelsea ready for jail, etc. Can Chelsea find transgender love in Ft. Leavenworth?

I agree with everything you said up to this:





Enough with the bleating, Barry. It's $$$ driven. Fox/"Reason" have their market and MSNBC/CNN have theirs.

That's sort of splitting hairs, though. Agendas generate the dollars.

Exactly, which is why the "agenda driven" whine is just that. A whine.

While I'm sure his desire to live as a woman is sincere, this could also be a ploy to get a transfer to a cushier federal pen. If I was an Army lawyer or general, I'd be worried about getting involved in a precedent setting court case that ultimately allowed Manning to start his journey while serving his sentence in a military prison.

Hello, I am Gloria Allred and I am here to make sure Chelsea's constitutional rights are met. My firms talent pool and time will be wielded, pro-bono, towards this lofty goal.

Chelsea gets her tits in 4 weeks.

I can be dollar driven and agenda driven. I don't see it as whining when it's true.