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#593921 - 06/19/13 08:39 PM
Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Katie Summers -- real name Katherine Howard -- who claims she was paid to appear in the film back in 2009 ... and the role involved sexual interaction with John Stagliano (aka Buttman). http://www.tmz.com/2013/06/18/porn-star-...john-stagliano/
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#593922 - 06/19/13 08:50 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 08/30/07
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From Xcritic Review http://www.xcritic.com/review/35794/alexis-texas-buttmans-stretch-class-4/Scene Four: Katie Summers, a frisky blond with pretty eyes and a shapely ass, was up next in "rainy Florida" wearing a pink shirt and normal white shorts. She wore some pink panties with the "Hustler" logo on them and John laughed it off (though I thought it was in bad taste considering who was paying the bills), her all natural body still growing at 20 years old. Under her panties was an even skimpier thong, some play using it leading to more designer clothespins applied to her ass, labia, and tits until it was time to masturbate with some of the various vibrators. While clearly no anal virgin, she did seem to get off with a small green dildo (it even matched her fingernails), her relative newness also adding some pleasure as she playfully followed John's directions. So was there an off camera BJ or something? Did he Insert his fingers into her...
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#593923 - 06/19/13 08:52 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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#593930 - 06/19/13 10:41 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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No jizz, no blood, no payday. Sorry, princess.
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#593934 - 06/19/13 11:15 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 07/15/09
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This happened in 2009?? Isn't there a 2 year window to file a civil suit, or is that just in Jersey? Barry got it. All she's doing is creating a large legal bill for herself. There is a thread on LIB about it, and the comments are not getting deleted rapidly. http://www.lukeisback.com/2013/06/stagliano-sued-for-not-disclosing-his-hiv-status/I'd recommend it for anyone who misses PaperChase and CX3. Also, someone uses the term "pre-madonna" as in, "If she complained she would be called a pre-madonna." Not much else of interest in there.
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#593955 - 06/20/13 10:23 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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I'm sure she's got some "u don't pay unless we win" attorney. I can see how JS could turn it around to a libel/ slander thing. This could fuck him up financially in his profession. I'm only a fake internet lawyer, tho.
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#593960 - 06/20/13 10:50 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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#593982 - 06/20/13 04:29 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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As well as the court papers for this case, AVN has obtained a copy of Buttman’s Stretch Class 4 and viewed the scene in question in its entirety. We can report that Stagliano’s only contact with Summers during the scene is some light touching and squeezing of her buttocks, breasts, stomach and legs, and that he states at both the beginning and end of the scene that he and Summers are in Florida. At no point in the footage does any part of Stagliano’s anatomy enter her body or touch her genitals. - See more at: http://therealpornwikileaks.com/more-details-of-summers-case-vs-stagliano-obtained/#comment-21275
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#593989 - 06/20/13 06:02 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
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Katie Summers -- real name Katherine Howard Catherine Howard was an infamous lying whore teen whore of the 16th century. I guess her parents knew what they were turning loose on the world when they named this one.
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#594014 - 06/20/13 10:22 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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His wrestling "background". XPW was shitty.
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#594021 - 06/21/13 04:50 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/11/07
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From Xcritic Review http://www.xcritic.com/review/35794/alexis-texas-buttmans-stretch-class-4/Scene Four: Katie Summers, a frisky blond with pretty eyes and a shapely ass, was up next in "rainy Florida" wearing a pink shirt and normal white shorts. She wore some pink panties with the "Hustler" logo on them and John laughed it off (though I thought it was in bad taste considering who was paying the bills), her all natural body still growing at 20 years old. Under her panties was an even skimpier thong, some play using it leading to more designer clothespins applied to her ass, labia, and tits until it was time to masturbate with some of the various vibrators. While clearly no anal virgin, she did seem to get off with a small green dildo (it even matched her fingernails), her relative newness also adding some pleasure as she playfully followed John's directions. So was there an off camera BJ or something? Did he Insert his fingers into her... Contrary to what a few agitators have been claiming, no penetration was made during the scene. When confronted with this revelation, they turned to the "it was probably deleted" line of thought, followed by the usual smokescreens. I don't have a copy of the filing but if it includes the actions listed on AVN, most of them are going to fall apart under scrutiny. Stagliano grabbed her ass and might have otherwise touched her a bit but that hardly qualifies as "performed with" by industry standards. It's tough to prove damages when her career literally took off after this scene, Evil Angel hiring her repeatedly as did all the other major companies. In terms of her medical damages, she is claiming to test negative 3 years later so that seems to lose power. My inquiries to her champion/boyfriend regarding whether she was booked/paid for a solo scene and never mentioned anything further until he talked her into the lawsuit so far yielding nothing but personal insults. Apparently, they are trying to figure out a new spin given some of the comments, hence the looking for other scenes involving misconduct to distract the weakness of the claims about this one.
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#594024 - 06/21/13 07:43 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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Nice informative post but you could have just said FLOP #1.
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#594037 - 06/21/13 10:55 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Bukkake Boy
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^ftw
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#594043 - 06/21/13 12:39 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
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I agree with fartz on it being bad form. At least I kind of do. I'm trying to visualize the conversation. At what point is it right to say "oh, by the way, I got HIV from being a fag". On one level it's the "right" thing to do. But where does that end? Does she have to know the HIV status of everyone on the crew? Which basically Stag is. Besides the parolee(s) banging her, I think she probably had more intimate contact with the makeup girl than with Stag.
At the end, it's porn. Right and wrong are just words.
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#594062 - 06/21/13 06:09 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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Skin on skin contact is zero risk unless both sets of skin have breaks where blood meets blood. This isn't 1985.
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#594077 - 06/21/13 10:17 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/01/08
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This bitch has done trannys ! Just saying.
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#594078 - 06/21/13 10:33 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/11/13
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Enjoyed some of the Stretch Class series and like Stagliano and Evil Angel. Thought his involvement in the scenes was a little wierd. But how could she possibly not know he was HIV+?
IMO though, his role was really no more dangerous than Magic playing basketball. Rob is really out there fishing for something and finally got a bite. Oh we'll, something to talk about. Should liven up the industry some.
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#594082 - 06/22/13 12:48 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Gay For Pay
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Enjoyed some of the Stretch Class series and like Stagliano and Evil Angel. Thought his involvement in the scenes was a little wierd. But how could she possibly not know he was HIV+?
IMO though, his role was really no more dangerous than Magic playing basketball. Rob is really out there fishing for something and finally got a bite. Oh we'll, something to talk about. Should liven up the industry some. Yeah but magic didn't take his dick out on the court and rub it on then stick it in his teammates... Don't think its beyond the realm of possibility this guy did THIS off camera...
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#594098 - 06/22/13 10:42 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 07/15/09
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I still feel it is up to the agents to tell the whores what they are in for when they go on set. Agents are paid to have the best interests of the performer in mind. They are the ones that should be telling the whores, "the director today is HIV+, so no "me time"" just like they tell the whore, "Today is an I/R anal gang bang, cream pies in your ass, then you squeeze it all out into a dog bowl and drink it."
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#594105 - 06/22/13 02:59 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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Who cares if they were told? They weren't having sex with him.
I bet there are HIV+ nurses who take blood from people who don't say a word. It's not like they are sharing needles with the patients.
If he's not involved in risky behavior with the girls, then he's under no obligation to say anything.
When she showed up on sets, say for an all girl feature like Young Pussy Lust #2, did she mention her appearances in films like Rogue Adventures #36 or American She-Male X #3???
If he FUCKED her and didn't tell her, he should be publicly castrated before a year long execution. But, if he didn't have sex with her, it's all BS.
I don't know this Stag character. He sounds like a complete dick and waste of human flesh, but how is a girl who did ANAL SEX WITH TRANNIES playing a victim?? Does she announce it before taking her seat on JetBlue, because, as a person sitting next to her, I'd like to be moved to another seat, please.
But, I don't get to know that. Why? Because I can't get an STD from just sitting next to a tranny fucker on a plane just like she can't get HIV from her cameraman. Unless she fucked him off camera. Which would be a whore thing to do, so ....
I don't understand trannies. I don't understand men or women who have sex with trannies. I don't understand men who have sex with non-tranny men. Hell, I don't generally understand men who have sex with women with tranny tits [aka bolt-ons]. But, to each his own.
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#594107 - 06/22/13 03:46 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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I'm out. I never liked Stag very much anyway. Whores, closeted fags. There's no winners because they're both losers.
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#594143 - 06/22/13 10:45 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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I'm out.....There's no winners because they're both losers. me too... And the total lack of responsibility on both ends is about what you'd expect. the only good to come out of this is reading p-chase in the comment section of that other place.
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#594149 - 06/23/13 05:50 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/01/08
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" I don't understand men or women who have sex with trannies. "
Simple. Money grubbing whores. I've always felt it is the most degrading porn there is including any bdsm or scat I've ever seen. Katie St. Ives with a tranny flabbergasted me.
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#594150 - 06/23/13 06:14 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Who cares if they were told? They weren't having sex with him.
I bet there are HIV+ nurses who take blood from people who don't say a word. It's not like they are sharing needles with the patients.
If he's not involved in risky behavior with the girls, then he's under no obligation to say anything.
When she showed up on sets, say for an all girl feature like Young Pussy Lust #2, did she mention her appearances in films like Rogue Adventures #36 or American She-Male X #3???
If he FUCKED her and didn't tell her, he should be publicly castrated before a year long execution. But, if he didn't have sex with her, it's all BS.
I don't know this Stag character. He sounds like a complete dick and waste of human flesh, but how is a girl who did ANAL SEX WITH TRANNIES playing a victim?? Does she announce it before taking her seat on JetBlue, because, as a person sitting next to her, I'd like to be moved to another seat, please.
But, I don't get to know that. Why? Because I can't get an STD from just sitting next to a tranny fucker on a plane just like she can't get HIV from her cameraman. Unless she fucked him off camera. Which would be a whore thing to do, so ....
I don't understand trannies. I don't understand men or women who have sex with trannies. I don't understand men who have sex with non-tranny men. Hell, I don't generally understand men who have sex with women with tranny tits [aka bolt-ons]. But, to each his own. I agree that there's no real harm imposed, unless he cuts his finger and stabs it in the girl's fartbox then everything should be all right. I just think it would be a common courtesy to tell them. There is absolutely no reason for him not to. Like Barry said, it's bad form. A guy in South's comment section put it brilliantly. He said something along the lines of this: If you got a prostate exam and the doctor went all in with no gloves and you found out later that he was HIV+, would your reaction be "oh well, it's not like he put his penis in me"
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#594155 - 06/23/13 06:47 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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Stag didn't put his finger in her. All there was in the scene was groping.
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#594159 - 06/23/13 07:22 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 07/15/09
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I don't know, I don't watch the stuff. No other whore is trying to file suit so I am only really concerned about this one.
If JS fist fucks some other whore while having his bleeding anus drip into her mouth, it don't make this whore's lawsuit any less frivolous and any less derived from Rob Black's butthurtedness.
Face it, agents probably stopped sending girls to Rob Black sets, because he was jerking them around on money, so Rob Black attempts and fails at creating his own agency.
So now he's having this whore go after Stags, why? Cause Rob is bitter Stags didn't do time for obscenity? Because Stagliano pays the whores, which is bad for Rob's whore scammin side business? Because Evil Angel don't advertise on Alkie Gene's site?
We all know how this thing ends, same fuckin way everything else Rob Black is involved in ends: Complete and utter failure.
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#594160 - 06/23/13 07:59 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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#594166 - 06/23/13 10:23 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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streisand syndrome. this whole thing seems to be royally slapping her back to reality. what an idiot..
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#594176 - 06/23/13 02:32 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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If you got a prostate exam and the doctor went all in with no gloves and you found out later that he was HIV+, would your reaction be "oh well, it's not like he put his penis in me" Wait. They're not supposed to put their penis in?
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#594191 - 06/23/13 06:38 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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This bitch has done trannys ! Just saying. You're talking about Stagliano, right? I remember reading in some old porn mag where he says he let a brazilian tranny with a cut on his dick bareback his asshole. But hey, he's a libertarian so it's all on him.
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#594193 - 06/23/13 06:50 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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Like Barry said, it's bad form. A guy in South's comment section put it brilliantly.
He said something along the lines of this:
If you got a prostate exam and the doctor went all in with no gloves and you found out later that he was HIV+, would your reaction be "oh well, it's not like he put his penis in me" You can't sue over something as nebulous as "bad form". I'd love to keep people with "the herp" out of my pools. I heard, and it may be an urban legend, that Kings Point, a large retirement community in Delray, has a very large STD problem. So, every time one of these widows or widowers that is playing the field comes in the pool, I'm none too pleased. As far as the doctor, I'd be offended on several levels. HIV not being the only one. But, there you WOULD have a case on sexual misconduct. Because it's NOT accepted practice for doctors to go gloveless in either rectal or vaginal exams. Going gloveless turns routine examination into unwanted sexual abuse. For whatever reason, I've seen several cameraman/directors do it. I don't think any of them tell the girls if they have Hep C, nail fungus or have even if they've washed their hands recently. There are plenty of germs out there ....
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#594194 - 06/23/13 06:51 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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If you got a prostate exam and the doctor went all in with no gloves and you found out later that he was HIV+, would your reaction be "oh well, it's not like he put his penis in me" Wait. They're not supposed to put their penis in? Not without a rubber, no.
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#594322 - 06/26/13 06:50 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/01/08
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No Katie Summers. She's done trannies. Stags go HIV from a tranny too.
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#594423 - 06/28/13 06:00 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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I watched one of the Summers vs. tranny scenes last night. Summers had her tongue up his/her ass. Go figure.
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#594435 - 06/28/13 09:59 AM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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Porn Jesus
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To me it's more a thing of doing your research of who you're working for. Like the souls who had no idea what Max was going to do to them. Do you not network? Stag's the same. It's not like his Gay Cancer is a secret.
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#594481 - 06/28/13 07:06 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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To me it's more a thing of doing your research of who you're working for. Like the souls who had no idea what Max was going to do to them. Do you not network? Stag's the same. It's not like his Gay Cancer is a secret. Absolutely. It's just that everything I've heard about Stagliano is that he's some kind of free-thinking-gentle-soulish-so open minded he contracted HIV in Brazil type dude. I was surprised to hear that he might not be telling the girls about teh' HIV. Your average Xanax and Alcohol whore has no clue who the fuck he even is.
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#594485 - 06/28/13 07:29 PM
Re: Porn Star Sues 'Buttman',Never Told Me He had HIV
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It's just that everything I've heard about Stagliano is that he's some kind of free-thinking-gentle-soulish-so open minded he contracted HIV in Brazil type dude. That's what the crowd at Reason would have you all believe.
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