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Just Like Porners, You Can Lead Them to Water….And They Drown In It

By MikeSouth

May 14th, 2013

Last weeks letter from Peter raised quite the stir, some think it’s fake some think it’s real but very few people really took it for what it was…a really good warning.

Alex Chance went out of her way to go get tested to prove she didn’t have Syphilis so it couldn’t have been true and must have been someone trying to exact revenge on her or whatever. AVN of course fawned all over that part of the story but you didn’t read word one about the original letter there or the implications of it until Ms Chance took them her test results.

Alex Chance never denied being an escort on TheLuxuryCompanion, even having admitted to it, it just became all about the STD’s

I even had one guy who works in the biz apparently as crew telling me that I should be helping the FSC to win the fight against AB332, apparently he misses the point….I AM trying to help them…Admittedly to no avail. he says if it passes he will hold me responsible for him not being able to feed his wife and kids…As if my cheering for a monkey trying to play chess will have any effect other than to excite the other monkeys.

He is following the “hazmat suit”, “we have a system that works”, “fax your assemblyman” crowd and he will blame me if they fail…sorry bro but if you are that stupid maybe you deserve to lose your job, I hear McDonalds is hiring, that doesn’t require much thought.

The solution is actually pretty simple and we had the ability to implement it and ward this legislation off ages ago..but we didn’t

1. Condom neutral, period

2. Companies carry workers comp insurance as required by law

3. companies pay for testing as required by law

4. (this is the tougher one but not as tough as fighting AB332) Get the STI situation in porn under control. Expand testing, close loopholes that allow performers to cheat the system and start weeding out the performers that wont comply

Pretty simple really…and Measure B and AB332 would never have happened. We were told back around 2006 to do it or they would do it for us, we didn’t and they are.

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Two comments I considered to be more on topic than others:
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Karmafan:

Problem is porn pays nothing now and escorting is their way to make a decent living. They probably can’t survive on porn money,


rawalex:

I agree with you here.

We all know that the girls (and the guys) over the years have been doing some escort work on the side. Some girls feature dance instead (or as well), but some have always escorted.

The downturn in the porn world in the last few years has made this an even bigger problem. Porn doesn’t pay like it use to, there isn’t anywhere near as many products, and as a results, the girls aren’t shooting as much – or making as much money. So they have to do something to earn a living and escorting is the next step down the road from making porn (or it’s nearest neighbor).

So Mike, point #4 is pretty much moot, because the porn workers will almost always be fucking someone on the side for pay, for their relationship, or just for fun, and it’s hard to control that. Nobody in the porn world has enough time or money to somehow lock the stars up long enough for a full incubation period to make the tests truly accurate, so there isn’t much that can be done.

Even with all of the testing in the world, it’s unlikely that anyone will show absolutely that the situation would be safer than a full condom, full dental dam, no creampie / no facial situation. Worjplace safety, if truly enforced, would eliminate most of the acts in porn, as each and every one of them has some sort of risk of transmission – and a risk that employers would be aware of and could avoid. I am not saying hazmat suits here, but clearly if any risk is too much, then the money shots are a thing of the past too.

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What I see in Mike South's article above's a good amount of wishful thinking.


The solution is actually pretty simple and we had the ability to implement it and ward this legislation off ages ago..but we didn’t

1. Condom neutral, period

2. Companies carry workers comp insurance as required by law

3. companies pay for testing as required by law

4. (this is the tougher one but not as tough as fighting AB332) Get the STI situation in porn under control. Expand testing, close loopholes that allow performers to cheat the system and start weeding out the performers that wont comply

Pretty simple really…and Measure B and AB332 would never have happened. We were told back around 2006 to do it or they would do it for us, we didn’t and they are.


This seems to allude to a meeting people from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in California (Cal/OSHA) had with porn people.

Among the porn people there seems to have been Mark Logan of AVN, also known as Eli Cross, one-man porn machine.

According to Rob Black and his court writer Gene Ross, at the meeting Eli Cross didn't contain himself and was offensive; he might've allegedly told someone from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in California (Cal/OSHA) to fuck their mother or something to this effect, something offensive and that porn as a whole would never accept forced condom use.

Michael Weinstein, currently president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, supposedly was at this meeting and rather shocked, according to Black. It could be that Black drew out another exaggerated storyline unfit for wrestling, but nice enough for radio anyway. Yet, as the narrative suggested, Weinstein became an adamant opposer of the porn industry's disregard for his concerns about safety at the porn workplace in that meeting.

If there's any truth to this stuff - whatever the fuck. This is porn infotainment.


1. Condom neutral, period

1. - Yeah, self-regulation seems to be the way to go here; dictation's over, the case is closed.

No, it isn't and it's been refuted by the AIDS Healthcare people in much more detail, in an online appearance on Huffington Post Live, for example, where their guy, among all the freaks and creeps, told a giggling Diane Duke that it's all good theatre, just basically worthless.

I agree. The arguments from the porn industry people look like transparent lies when looking a bit closer. Infantile, inarticulate, insufficient in a way.

If some whores'll fuck on video and do it rubber-less and some won't and there's a clearly stated preference among the producers, it's obvious what's likely to happen:

Whores'll offer the rubber-less fucking on video to actually not get ostracised with the part of the whorde (whore horde, obviously) who thinks it's rainbows and unicorns time already, that change is coming, that life'll be better as a whore. It probably won't be.


2. Companies carry workers comp insurance as required by law

3. companies pay for testing as required by law.

2., 3. - Surprisingly reasonable when seen as a professional business. Costs to comply while producing appealing, marketable content and being competitive are things big studios might be able to do. Porn would become more corporate and less clueless, would most likely apply more market research and testing and get rid of people who still seem to hang around from way back in some places. People who don't get shit done.


4. (this is the tougher one but not as tough as fighting AB332) Get the STI situation in porn under control. Expand testing, close loopholes that allow performers to cheat the system and start weeding out the performers that wont comply

4. - That the whore melange ("talent pool") is somehow actually free of infection and disease is something South doesn't seem to assume here at least.

When it's said that there allegedly is a doctor essentially fixing tests for his whore patients and this doctor's name's allegedly supposed to be Riggs, it becomes a bit much. Especially if what the alleged doctor allegedly fixes are tests based on methods which don't test for all STDs and STIs or don't properly do so in all areas the infection or disease can reside in the whores' bodies.

So unless he's speaking out for an immediate change of heart and a sudden revolution, what South seems to want is a redesign of the outer appearance of a ridiculously flawed testing system in self-moderation. He wants the clique to change and a bit of what they do, but it's all okay in the end and John Stagliano's at low risk to infect whores with HIV while licking and fingering them, if Stagliano has it. But that type of low-risk porno making should be explored in more detail once some media attention's passed.
That's his take; I mentioned it before in this thread somewhere.


Pretty simple really…and Measure B and AB332 would never have happened. We were told back around 2006 to do it or they would do it for us, we didn’t and they are.

Of course.
Everything would be different if only Eli Cross hadn't told the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in California (Cal/OSHA) off.
Everything would be different if only Mr. Marcus hadn't faked his test and infected some other whores with syphilis.
Everything and more.

That there was no self-regulated change in porn production and that there might be a reason for this as well should be obvious.
The need wasn't felt in the proper places.