Hey Jerk! How are you? I hope you are doing well. I really shouldn't be here, to tell the truth. I just had some questions for Gia...

I'm sorry but this is gross and unhealthy. I admire when someone works at their body but doesn't try to emulate a starving African.

I'm OK, man. Same old shit. Trollin, livin, payin most of my bills.

Why shouldn't you be here? Hang out, look around. You got opinions, share em. Lord knows LIB is a friggin ghost town, so there is no sense in posting there.

I've been instructed by my md to lay off working out so much and to quit being body obsessed. Currently, I just workout a lot and eat healthy, run, and be fit without fixating on stats and numbers.

Sound advice. If you feel the need to dwell on #s, let it be the size of your bank acct.

Purity through virginity or small number of sexual experiences is falsely glorified; moreover, a women's value determined by such 'purity' is some bullshit construct made up by men. Notice there will always be a double standard?

A person can be spiritual in any industry. I doubt Ghandi determined one's spirituality contingent upon someone's station in life.

I actually don't think about spirituality or religion ever. Philosophy yes, but more from a logical sense.

Moral code regarding sex...not sure what you mean. Do you mean purity = moral? Do you mean what agreements on sex does a monogamous couple agree upon? Feel free to explain.

Because anyone can lay there and receive cum by multiple guys who aren't even actual porn performers. There are a few marginal mopes at best, but bukakke boys are one level up from living in a box on the street. Really, this isn't about morality or impurity. It's about the social strata in porn. Notice the girls who do bukakke are those who are on their way out, grabbing the last quick money off the tree OR they're sub par looking new girls that don't know any better and figure what's the difference between 1 Manuel Ferraro cumming on them vs 50 parolees cumming on them. But that's the beauty is bukakkes to me- the back stories. Then, there are the rare true cum sluts who truly love pushing their own boundaries to out-nasty themselves, and the is Ava Devine, who is truly the happy hooker. She will take you on, chew you up, all with a smile on her face and make sure you got home ok the next day.

The other two questions I answered last post. Hope that helps

Thanks man, I appreciate ya...

No problem, bro.

But, c'mon Gia. I always sensed a double standard in porn. Performers are always the most valuable when they are new. Isn't that a vestige of the purity concept? Whether it is a paternalistic contrivance or not is irrelevant as sexual purity seems to be valued and enforced by every society. Actual female virgins receive the biggest payouts of all in the Industry. The Industry wants "good girls"--young, smart, educated, respectable women who they can corrupt. The more scenes an average female performer does, the less work she is offered and the more likely she is to perform in a bukkake scene and be thereafter shamed by her peers.

Look at the constant slut-shaming that goes on Industry gossip sites. It is not done in jest but for the sake of schadenfreude

As for the double standard concerning the enforcement of sexual purity notions, I would agree with you that it is unfair. However, the double standard has evolved to be the way it is because of sexual dimorphism. Sex is an act of giving but the emphasis for men is on performance. The only way to enhance performance is to practice. Additionally men have a evolutionary incentive to spread his seed among many different partners whereas females have an evolutionary incentive to maintain strong bonds with the father of her offspring (a phenomenon that tends to contradict promiscuity).

I personally believe women are not as anatomically equipped to be as promiscuous as men. I read that you are a photographer. With all the subjects that you shoot, could you observe that the female subjects who are more beautiful tend to be those who are less promiscuous?

It is funny you mention Ghandi. I was thinking of spiritual concepts of sexual purity when I asked you this question. Ghandi was a big proponent of celibacy as a means of enhancing spiritual power...

Despite what I wrote above,I must reiterate that enforcement of the double standard is garbage. Additionally, from a anthropological view, the most successful human societies are ones which stress monogamy and strong emotional bonds between mates. Both men and women should be encouraged to be more faithful to each-other. In the western world, those Romans were good for something...

Thank you for the response, Gia.

have you hit menopause yet?

I agree. most people have tunnel vision. it fucks with their perspective, and that's never a good thing.. thai people always wai (pay respect) as they pass by a representation of the buddha. don't matter who they are or what they do. your spirituality has nothing to do with what you choose to do with your life.

as far as ghandi goes:

Mahatma Gandhi had taken a public vow of celibacy at age 37 and toward the end of his life he undertook what he described as the last yajna or ritual to test his sexual impulses. His exercise involved by sleeping naked with young women in his ashram, including his 19-year-old grand-niece Manu Gandhi and Abha Gandhi, the 16-year-old wife of his grand-nephew Kanu Gandhi. He acknowledged “that this experiment is very dangerous indeed,” but insisted “that it was capable of yielding great results.” This has been viewed with suspicion by sceptics.

No, have you hit your wife today yet?

Ritual is only a subset of spirituality. It says nothing in and of itself of an individual's spiritual condition. One might "wai" when he passes a representation of a Buddha but if that person is a child sexual predator, his spiritual condition might be morbidly grotesque.

I believe we all have the same spiritual potential (ie going to Heaven, being reunited with Atman, reaching Nirvana), no matter what we do, but not the same condition at any given time. It is the Christian perspective that an individual's spiritual salvation is solely the work of God and not the result of personal ritual.




The above anecdote is kind of a red herring. Ghandi might have slipped up but he was still a big proponent of restricting sex as a means of achieving spiritual transcendence. I'm not really saying I agree with him. I believe sex is a spiritual act in and of itself and it can be used for good or for evil. I believe there is virtue in avoiding promiscuity (for it can harm the body) and that the beauty and satisfaction one can gain from sex is directly proportional to the strength of the connection between partners and their aggregate virtue.

I really adhere to the Christian point of view. It is not that God is against sex but that "He hates divorce" (Malachi 2:16) in the sense that it is wrong to willingly sexually connect with someone and not feel some lasting sense of love towards them. The sexual bond is pretty powerful as many porn performers shockingly realize when they are constantly harassed in public by anonymous admirers.

Also, restricting sex is a testament to the virtue of self-control--which is crucial for achieving anything in this life. Just because one is promiscuous doesn't mean one is totally lacking in self-control but it would only elevate one's virtue if one were not that way.

So, basically you danced with your daughter at The Purity Ball then came home and whacked off to porn.

I'm 25 (26 in a couple weeks) and I don't have a daughter.

No. Makes no difference. Women are autonomous and do as they wish with their sexuality.

Of course women can do what they want. Who says otherwise?

You can honestly say you have not observed that phenomenon? I just disagree.

Wow I apologize. I've really been a jerk. The notion that women lose beauty because of sex is ludicrous and insulting.

But Gia, how do you explain the whole "Porn Stars Without Makeup" debacle? (http://funnie.st/309/p0rnstars-without-makeup/) You see some of the performers' pics after they leave the Industry and they look far more radiant...

shut up, Darrah

Ahhh hahaha! Post of the month.

I always assumed Diarrhea Ford was chained up in AC Cream's basement with Savanna Samson and Naomi.

This is old news, but here it goes.

The makeup artist told the porn stars the before and afters were just for her portfolio. Many, being friends with her, agreed because it'd help her succeed as a makeup artist. They didn't know the photos would be shown to the general public Internet without their consent. Yes, many pornstars post 'no makeup' selfies on twitter or their blogs, but the point is, they're controlling what, when and how the general public gets to see them. Key word here is consent.

This is not really what I meant. I meant that without makeup a majority of these girls look "tore up". What's up with that? The photo-set is large enough to be considered a representative sample of adult performers. You see photos of the same performers after they stop performing in scenes non-stop and they look much more beautiful. I would even dare to say that you are much more beautiful now then when you were consistently performing (not to say that you were ugly then or whatever).

This is why I really shouldn't be here, Jerk. You are a good guy and there some good people on these forums but I always remember what Joanna Angel's mom said:



I am the company I keep and I don't want to be like the hatefulness I see on these forums anymore.

Good bye, man. Take care.

Thanks for putting up with me, Gia. I wish you the best in the years to come for you and everyone you care about.

You are too sensitive. If you don't enjoy ball breaking and arguing, just ignore it and post how you want.

In porn, you go tanning once a week and wear heavy makeup for scenes. You do this for years and see how your skin looks.

Gia, who are some of your favorite philosophers?

That's crap about those "before" and "after" pics. But I really like the "au naturel" pics as well as the glam makeup pics

I assume we will never get to see those "new" titties, and all the delaying tactics was complete and utter bullshit.

I've heard they are fucking horrible anyway !!!11

I love them. A lot.

Gia its really not fair that your not sharing those new titties with us.
We fuckin paid for them !!!!11

Please rationalize your statement for us.

Good point. How did porn pay for them if my last scene was early 2008 and I got my implants Oct 2012?

Are you saying you had no savings from your porn days left by Oct 2012?

Quite the opposite. I'm saying that needing to dip into that savings seens excessive.

I didn't even need to use my porn savings (nor my savings pre-porn.) I saved extra money from 2012 to pay for them.

Are you familiar with the concept of the fungibility of capital?

If not, I can explain it to you and demonstrate that you must show us your tits.

If you do understand it, then you already know you must show us your tits.

I'll google it.

Let's just see 'em already, release the hounds!

Well

I was reading another post by this chick were she was rationalizing her involvement in pron. She stated it "appealed" to her, like wanting to explore the wild side of sex, ect. This same person won't show her tits on a simple porn forum. Really...I'm going to let some mook stick his dick eight inches up my ass because it intrigues me, but show you my tits...no way..

One can only assume she did porn for the money and hated it, and is here for the attention.

Ask Gen to see her tits and see what happens....

I think Gia will eventually get intoxicated and feeling low and will post them for some attention whoring. Maybe she's waiting for them to "settle".

You already know what they look like.

And your point? Checking out a nice set of tits is something that never gets old.

those boobs will never see the light of day in this forum short of there being a massive existential and/or financial crisis affecting their owner.

There are people who still think she's gong to show them?

Methinks boyfriend put the poo poo on it which would just be sad.

I was hoping for the appearance if a sudden, mysterious, half-drunken selfy until a few a weeks ago.

I doubt it. She probably just wasn't to. When you've managed to get away from licking your ass off some guy(s)'s crank for money, I'd guess showing your tits to sociopaths for free would be a minor backslide.

Before you make a post like this you have to understand that Panzer is going to take it literally.