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#59020 - 09/27/04 10:44 PM
Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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What exactly is a Star?
In my book, a 'Star' is someone who commands authority because of a supreme talent. A 'Star' calls the shots.
But has it really been that way in porn?
How many 'stars' in porn can choose who they shoot with, or what they shoot?
How many 'stars' in porn are really nothing more than well-paid slaves, who fuck who they are told to fuck, and when?
Now that 'stars' have been protected from disease, COURTESY of Cal/OSHA...
...A new, powerful sea change is about to take place.
The STARS of porn, now that they can no longer be deemed 'infected' by society, will be much, much more powerful, and will command bigger followings.
In turn, for studios, these followings will result in MONEY.
What would happen if a porn 'star' was known to pick his or her talent, was known to be free from disease, was not a drug addict a drunk or a criminal, stood up for the health and welfare of his or her fellow workers, and was a trusted and well liked person?
Most of you think I'm describing Jenna Jameson.
I'm not.
Jenna is a 'porn chick', to be sure, but she definitely has her problems, and her problems are not secret. Drug addiction, gang rape, comes from a broken home, has escorted on the side, was a former stripper- you get the picture.
Definitley NOT a candidate to be a STAR...that is...a REAL STAR.
(Since I'm posting this on xxxporntalk.com, I guess I should make clear that I'm NOT describing Gen Padova. While educated, Ms. Padova chose to side with the studio heads on the issue of worker safety. She won't be able to stand up to public scrutiny, as a result. She'll always be seen as a follower, instead of a leader. A REAL STAR simply does not follow. A REAL STAR is not, in short, a 'scab'. Pun intended.)
So here's my question to all of you in the industry...
What would happen if you found a 'good girl', made her a RIDICULOUS OFFER to come into the industry, and allowed her to call the shots?
What would happen if you found a girl who is not on drugs...
A girl who would say NO to things that were not appropriate...
A girl who was educated...
A girl who came from a household where both parents are still together, and she was NOT abused...
A girl who PREACHES safe sex, and who actually abides by it...
A girl who understands social limits on sexual behavior, and does NOT aggressively attempt to demean those who don't agree with her...
A girl who can act, sing, dance, write, fuck, interview well, and does NOT cheat on her boyfriends, or knock down her friends...
A girl who WILL NOT be told what to do by porn studios and agents, and who will NOT indulge in scandalous behavior outside the porn set...
A girl who could stand up to scrutiny of the whole world, and the media of it, when her history is examined...
Yes, you think I'm mad. Problem is, I'm usually right.
Regardless...
Here's what I want you to do, so you can all make lots, and lot of money, and stop complaining about condoms and gloves and dental dams-
-FIND US THIS GIRL.
What I want you to do is SEARCH.
SEARCH for this girl, FIND HER, and then let her BE A STAR.
We're looking for a GODDESS out here, folks.
I thought I had one, but she wasn't tough enough.
Find us a TOUGH ONE.
Find us a GODDESS who can say NO to things that are BAD for her, and YES to things that are GOOD for her.
Find us a GODDESS so smart, yet so sweet, and so tough, and so intelligent, that all of us MEN out here can RESPECT HER.
It's time to stop DEGRADING girls, ladies and gentlemen.
It's time to find a girl, or girls, who are so SHARP, and so HOT, and have so much DIGNITY...
That WE, the faithful porn CONSUMERS- want to WORSHIP THEM.
We all know that porn chicks escort on the side.
That simply won't do.
Find us a goddamn GODDESS, folks.
That's where the money is.
We need something to worship.
Once you find her, if we like her...
...Trust me...
...We'll be very, very happy that's she's protected from disease, and we will CHAMPION the fact that the actor that SHE CHOSE TO USE is wearing a CONDOM.
Wanna make money in porn?
Listen to what I'm telling you.
We don't want 'whores' anymore, folks.
We want a girl, or girls, that we can RESPECT, and LOOK UP TO.
We want a girl whom we can read about in the national news, who has NO SKELETONS in her closet.
It's time to start looking.
Do you know where to look?
Probably not.
Here's some more advice:
Throw all of your old standards of recruitment out the window.
Real Star Power can be found in the most amazing places.
Is it a tall, tall order I have for you, so that you can stay in California, and don't have to live in Prague, or worse, Mexico?
You bet it it is.
Real Star Power is hard to find...and that's exactly why we WANT IT.
We need someone who's real, who can stand up to criticism like a Presidential Nominee. Someone who is NOT a whore, NOT a bitch, NOT a SLUT...
...a girl whom we can WORSHIP.
Good luck.
The Outsider
Edited by The Outsider (09/27/04 11:01 PM)
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#59022 - 09/28/04 02:43 AM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 04/21/04
Posts: 3899
Loc: CO Springs
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That means you're a dumb shit, outsider.
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#59023 - 09/28/04 03:34 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 931
Loc: United States
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OK question....? what "classy woman" actually wants to have sex on film weather calling her own shots or not(if she is "EDUCATED" she can make more in a different industry....doesn't the fact that she has no problem being fucked on camera then take all she did up until then(if she has no skeletons) & throw it out the damn window anyway
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#59025 - 09/28/04 08:32 AM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 931
Loc: United States
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Well My point is, is no matter "who" she was B4 the industry she is just another porn whore after her 1st film.
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#59030 - 09/28/04 02:37 PM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
Posts: 7888
Loc: Carpathian Mountains
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words...words...words...words...words......words......words......words......words...
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#59031 - 09/28/04 04:34 PM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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Historically, there is actually precedent for my forecast.
After the Hollywood studios were unionized, and safety measures were put in place, the climate changed from studio driven, to star driven.
What had been a 'studio' system became a 'star' system.
This is what will happen in porn.
Since the performers will now be protected from disease, it's only reasonable to assert that the society at large, that is, America, will have few reasons but to take a new, fresh look at porn.
And when it does, the new Stars, as opposed to the old 'porn chicks' or 'studs', will command more attention.
Once a new, real Star is found, the process of treating her like a Star will begin.
The audience for this new Star WON'T want to see her get hurt, or abused. The new audience for this new Star will be extremely PROTECTIVE of it's new Star, too.
Goddess Worship.
Find her, build her, promote her, and let her call the shots.
Let her TEACH America about SAFE SEX, as she ABIDES BY AND CONFORMS WITH the new Cal/OSHA rulings.
Thus, this 'Goddess' becomes a LEADER.
And as we all know, LEADERS command MARKET SHARE.
This is where the money is, folks.
The first to find this Goddess, and promote her correctly, wins.
A Safe Sex Promoting Intelligent Goddess Whom America Can Look Up To.
Not a concept out of left field...just a concept that will WORK.
A similar idea may be found in the art of combat.
You take the enemies force, rechannel it, and use it to throw your opponent- using his or her own energy.
Thus, this 'Goddess' takes the current set of rulings, and uses them to her strength, using their energy.
It's a simple concept, really.
The Outsider
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#59033 - 09/28/04 04:53 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/03/04
Posts: 703
Loc: blue state.....red county...
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does he come up with one idea and bullshit the rest of the way through his posts.... And Chino thinks I have too much free time to posts on a porn forum?
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#59034 - 09/29/04 08:38 PM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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It's always amazing to me how my best posts, such as this one, seem to attract such little attention, while my less interesting ones seem to get all the press.
Not only is this idea cutting edge, it's also amazingly obvious.
We've seen the whores, folks.
We've seen the extreme.
We're bored.
We want a girl we can look up to.
A girl who can stand up to Bill O'Reilly.
A girl who can stand up to CNN.
A girl who'll do well on Dateline.
What most of you cokehead-meth head-alcoholics don't get is this:
NOBODY WANTS TO OUTLAW PORNOGRAPHY.
The Bush Administration, including Mr. Ashcroft, DOES NOT need, or want, to make pornography illegal.
What needs to stop- is girls getting hurt.
I've noticed that many of you have continued shooting against the Cal/OSHA ruling.
This is a MISTAKE.
For your own good, and your pocketbooks own good, PLEASE ABIDE BY THE RULING.
New fines are already in the works, and they are already getting ready to send them to those who have violated them.
In this post, I have presented all of you with a surefire, problem-free way to stay in business...legitimately.
You simply find a girl that is trustable, intelligent, doesn't turn tricks on the side, vocally and AGGRESSIVELY supports SAFE SEX...
...and you PROMOTE her as such.
In the national media, she will come off as a SAINT.
A LEADER.
A GODDESS.
When she is interviewed on CNN and FOX, have her DEMONSTRATE Safe Sex techniques to the masses.
No, I am NOT KIDDING about that.
This will result in MONEY for you, and your studio.
Or...
...you can do it YOUR WAY...
...and incur fine, after fine, after fine.
A STAR, or STARS of the caliber I am talking about will make all of you MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
That's what you really want, isn't it?
So, why the bullshit comments, and procrastination?
America doesn't hate porn.
America LOVES porn.
America simply HATED the way you were making porn, and decided to MAKE YOU CHANGE.
It is NOT NECESSARY to HURT women, or DEGRADE women, or BELITTLE women in order to make MONEY.
GO AGAINST THE GRAIN.
TURN YOUR MODUS OPERANDI UPSIDE DOWN.
When a studio finds the GODDESS I am talking about, and she, and her history is fully accountable...
...America will FALL IN LOVE WITH HER.
We will want to know WHO SHE IS DATING.
We will want to know WHERE SHE WENT FOR DINNER.
We will want to know WHAT BOOKS SHE READS.
We will want to find out WHAT SHE DID LAST NIGHT.
Are any of you starting to get the picture?
GODDESS LOVE RESULTS IN MONEY FOR YOU, YOU MORONS.
Find her, be good to her, and she will be good to you.
We are SICK OF WHORES out here.
WHORES are STD infested, money grubbing, lying, self-interested, out of touch girls.
WE WANT A GODDESS, or GODDESSES.
We want a goddess who PREACHES SAFE SEX, and who DOES NOT LIE, and who DOES NOT DO DRUGS, and who IS NOT AN ALCOHOLIC, and who SPEAKS INTELLIGENTLY, and who COMES FROM A GOOD HOME, and who IS NOT A CRIMINAL, and who DOES NOT CHANGE HER IDENTITY EVERY TWO MONTHS.
Find us this GODDESS.
PROMOTE the GODDESS. On CNN, Fox, and MSNBC.
After that...
...in a year...
...make sure you COME BACK HERE AND THANK ME FOR MAKING YOU RICH.
Is there ANYONE out there with a BRAIN that gets this?
Or am I simply talking to a bunch of dinosaurs?
The climate of porn has CHANGED, people.
What I am suggesting to all of you is THE NEW WAVE.
Sink, or swim.
It's your choice.
Or...
...Try moving to Mexico or Prague.
Yeah, that'll be fun.
Ya might as well move to the 909.
Or is that where all of you currently reside already?
Only losers move to those places. We all know that.
I'm giving you a plan that will work, so you don't have to move, only to be brought by back FINDING ANOTHER GODDESS, after THIS IDEA BEGINS TO BECOME THE NORM.
What a bunch of stubborn dinosaurs, you are.
First one to execute my concept wins a million dollars.
Of course, I WILL expect a THANK YOU.
Morons.
Have I been wrong before?
If I have, please tell me how?
Fucking morons.
The Outsider
Edited by The Outsider (09/29/04 08:43 PM)
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#59035 - 09/29/04 09:03 PM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/20/03
Posts: 1630
Loc: SoCal
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#59036 - 09/29/04 09:46 PM
Re: Real Star Power: The Coming Boom in Porn
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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Not a bad question, for a change.
Well, I guess my path has gone another way.
I'm getting ready to make a family.
I'm getting ready to buy a house, in about 12 months or so, when the sellers in California come to my front door with tears in their eyes, asking me to buy their homes.
Yes, the bubble has finally burst.
But in terms of porn...
I love porn.
George Bush loves porn.
Mr. Ashcroft loves porn.
Hell, we all love porn.
We just don't like seeing girls get hurt.
Maybe dad fucked you, fine. Maybe uncle fucked you, fine. Maybe you got raped, fine.
However, NONE OF US want to see you, a young, wonderful, intelligent girl, have the rest of your life FUCKED UP by an STD or HIV.
We know that you won't always be angry, and we know that one day, you'll get past it.
But what we DON'T WANT...
...is for this young girl to live with the TRAUMA of her bad decisions, made because of dad, or uncle, or rapist...
...for the rest of HER LIFE.
THEREFORE...
...The angry, and out of control NEED TO BE PROTECTED.
But better than that...
There needs to be a voice of sanity.
A girl who HAS NOT gone through these TRAUMAS who can make sex okay again.
A 'Safe Sex Goddess', if you will.
I'm not about money.
I could give a rats ass about money.
I'm about what's good for the people.
The people need a LEADER.
The people need a GIRL who CAN STAND UP TO THE NATIONAL MEDIA with SAFE SEX advice...
...WHO CAN MAKE SEX FUN AGAIN.
Why don't I do this?
It's just not my path.
I'm going to have a child, live in a house, go to work, and be a simple person.
I don't care who gets rich off my idea. More power to them.
I'm just here to tell all of you how things WILL BE, rather than how they ARE.
That's my talent.
I can predict.
I'm a 'Predictor', I guess you'd say.
I'm not about money, fame, or recognition.
I just simply have a prediliction of telling the truth, as it will be, as I see it.
That's it.
I feel bad for those who ignore me, and I feel bad for those who doubt me.
This is my talent.
I can see the future, and I'm good at it.
That's all.
The Outsider
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#59037 - 09/29/04 11:53 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 05/24/04
Posts: 434
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All girls can choose who they shoot with, and what they shoot or they can turn the scene down.
Fuck when we are told? How so? We are asked if we want to do a scene or not.
Like meatholes said there is spitting and peeing. I said I don't think so.. Their loss. :0)
hi Lisa, good to read you after some time, and what happened with meatholes is also our loss, your diehard fans that would have love to watch you there, what i do not get is that i have seen other episode where there is not spitting or peeing, you just say what things you won't do and it would have been just as nasty as you say, i guess that is the way it works with them also, or they told you that i must have spitting and pissing?, if so then i agree with you. hot kisses and YOU ARE THE BEST, good luck with the gangbang, will it be taped?, your number one female fan, Mona SLUT WIFE 
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#59040 - 09/30/04 01:55 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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Bill would nail you to the wall over your well-publicized disagreement with the mandatory use of condoms in porn, Gen.
People don't forget that stuff.
What we need is a Jessica Simpson of porn.
A good girl, who educates the public about safe sex, and who calls her own shots. A girl who doesn't need money, and can afford to turn things down. A girl we could fantasize about not just fucking- but marrying.
A girl that we, the public, would want to protect.
A girl whom we'd want to read about in the gossip columns- but not for being a whore.
The irony would be compelling.
Like, let's say our 'Goddess' goes to a party where everyone is doing drugs, but she doesn't join in. Or let's say she tries to help other girls STOP escorting on the side. Or maybe she gets on the side of a good political cause, like maybe bringing business back to California.
In short, this 'Goddess' would act like Jessica Simpson, in almost every respect, except when it came to having sex on camera.
However, since she engages in SAFE SEX, and EDUCATES America about the POSITIVE POINTS OF SAFE SEX...you know the 'Goddess' isn't getting hurt, so you support her getting fucked on camera.
I think a girl like this would change the whole world's view of porn. People that never watched it would probably give it a chance.
See, with Jenna, you know she's escorted, you know she strips, you know she's had a drug problem.
Blah Blah Blah.
She's simply not interesting to me.
The only thing she does differently is that she buys her own advertising. She's still just a run of the mill whore, underneath it all. Pun.
In other words, finding a girl who is NOT a whore, and does nothing whorelike outside the job...would be really amazing.
The Outsider
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#59041 - 09/30/04 02:43 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/03/04
Posts: 703
Loc: blue state.....red county...
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are you forgetting that Jessica Simpson may be a good girl and a pretty face..but she comes across as stupid as hell. Porn needs and has a few.. great looking girls..who are educated and opinionated..Reguardless we disagree or agree with her..he can stand on her own..I would not only send Gen on Bill O'Reily but I would send her to Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hennity, Tony Snow, and Dr. Laura.
We aren't trying to convince the people who we never will..just get our story out and be heard on an even playing field.
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#59045 - 09/30/04 05:36 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 07/23/04
Posts: 931
Loc: United States
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Once a woman decides to fuck on film anyone in their right mind will not fantasize about "marrying" her(unless connected to the biz etc.)& as someone already mentioned, & as I know from being in the industry, the female talent ALREADY call their own shots & all this shit the outsider keeps babbling about who she is dating, what she ate for dinner etc. already goes on with BIG NAME STARS(usually contract girls)if he hasn't already figured that one out on his own....
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#59046 - 09/30/04 06:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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- A girl we could fantasize about not just fucking- but marrying.  You do realize that the personae you see on screen do not actually exist in flesh & blood? That, however badly, the actresses are acting? Even with mainstream Hollywood most fans realize that the girl on the screen is not Jessica Simpson, but someone else Jessica Simpson is portraying. (you seem to be suggesting that you know Jessica Simpson so well from watching TV that you're convinced she's ideal marriage material, which is amazing to me) - A girl who doesn't need money I know of nobody who doesn't need money. I know some who need very little, and some so wealthy the question is irrelevant. However, they all have bills to pay, groceries to buy, etc. Everybody needs some money. - finding the perfect girl to marry The perfect partner does not exist. It's all about compromise, deciding what you really need to have, and what you can put up with. You'll never find the perfect by watching TV anyway. - safe sex You do realize that the only guaranteed protection against HIV is to avoid HIV+ partners (or abstinence), right? Everything else is just playing the odds. With condoms, CDC data suggests a 95% success rate. That sounds pretty good until you start doing the math on someone who has 3 contacts per week over six months (or more, perhaps much more). Now things don't look so good. Sure the numbers are better but so far from reasonable they might as well be the same. My opposition to condom-only porn is because I believe that it would make porn less safe, and that we would see more HIV outbreaks. I believe condoms would displace AIM testing and result in less overall protection. Thus far I believe that AIM testing and rigorous exclusion of all HIV+ performers as being behind the overall success in HIV prevention in porn since AIM was founded. With bareback porn I would guess most of the performers take testing fairly seriously as do the producers (T.T. Boy aside). But if condoms are required I suspect people are so bombarded with claims that "condoms prevent HIV" that they'll slip on test demands, and people will be providing non-AIM results, unverifiable results, and fake HIV- results. People are often a little more cautious when they perceive an element of danger. If they believe condoms eliminate that danger then caution may fly out the window, and a test result (or lack thereof) that is a non-starter today might well be grudgingly accepted since "it'll be OK - we're using condoms".
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#59047 - 09/30/04 08:21 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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"Just because a woman promotes safe sex on camera doesn't mean she's going to gain anymore respect or viewers from it."
For the record, for here, and for all of eternity to come, I'd like to remind you that Ms. Gen Padova said that.
Let's keep that on file.
I could not more wholeheartedly DISAGREE with that statement.
Name me a porn chick who ACTIVELY promotes SAFE SEX.
Nope, you can't name one.
Now, ask yourself this question:
"In America, what NEW trends ultimately replace OLD trends?"
Well, you'd have to say, "The exact OPPOSITE."
Following my reasoning, it makes perfect sense that the OPPOSITE should come along and unseat THE NORM.
Can you name a porn girl that ACTIVELY PROMOTES SAFE SEX?
Nope.
Would it be reasonable then to assume that a porn girl who did...would recieve an AMAZING AMOUNT OF ATTENTION?
Yep, it would be reasonable.
When the crowd goes left, the intelligent go right.
Same basic principle applies here.
How many guys can a girl do anal with?
How many dicks can she take in one anus?
How much cum can one girl drink?
What's the reasonable event that follows that?
How about a sea change in culture.
How FEW guys can a girl do!
How FEW anals can one girl do!
How LITTLE CUM can one girl take!
It's a basic principle of economics, folks.
You got soooooo top heavy on the 'extreme'...
...that we all want to go back to basics.
As to the accusations that Jessica Simpson is 'stupid'...
...you better think again.
Jessica Simpson doesn't have her asshole hurting so bad she can't shit right, or walk right, for a week.
Jessica Simpson has people around her who LOVE HER, and don't want to see her GET HURT.
Jessica Simpson asks questions, and gets answers, and LEARNS by asking questions, and getting answers.
But most importantly...
If you ask most of the men on this forum 'privately'...
...when it comes to fantasy...
...most men would prefer Jessica Simpson to a girl that might have an STD or HIV or a drug habit or an alcoholic or a criminal or an escort...any day of the week.
It's interesting to watch the replies solidify my position.
The replies are very, very defensive.
There's an earthquake about to take place in porn, ladies and gentlemen. And it won't be shown on some seismograph, either.
I feel bad for those who fought against protecting the talent.
However, they did make an informed decision.
Thus, they sowed their own oats. They made their own beds.
Sorry Gen, but you DID happen to take a position against the health and well being of your fellow performers- and I did warn you about doing it- but you did it anyway.
And you were wrong.
The new wave of talent that will arise out of the ashes of this debate will be more powerful, more motivated, and more respected than any who have gone before.
The new wave of talent, who will BE TRUE to what is TRUE, and HUMAN, and REAL, will be a much more powerful force than we have ever seen before.
If sex on a porn set does not kill...If the performer educates the public on the dangers of unsafe sex...If the public can't find anything in the past of the performer to question...
...What's to stop this new 'Goddess' from taking over planet Earth?
Not much.
We have entered a new era in porn, folks.
We have entered the era of 'The Goddess'.
The Outsider
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#59049 - 09/30/04 09:03 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Jessica Simpson doesn't have her asshole hurting so bad she can't shit right, or walk right, for a week. . Jessica Simpson has people around her who LOVE HER, and don't want to see her GET HURT. . Jessica Simpson asks questions, and gets answers, and LEARNS by asking questions, and getting answers.
You certainly do seem to know a lot of personal details about Jessica Simpson.
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...most men would prefer Jessica Simpson to a girl that might have an STD or HIV or a drug habit or an alcoholic or a criminal or an escort...any day of the week.
How do you know Jessica Simpson is HIV-? I'd be a lot more confident in Gen or Kami than Jessica Simpson. Porn girls get tested; Jessica Simpson doesn't. If Jessica Simpson tests HIV+ nobody would ever be told; when a porn girl tests HIV+ it's the only topic of discussion for weeks.
While it seems unlikely that Jessica Simpson could keep escorting a secret, is there any reason at all to suppose she doesn't have an STD such as herpes, a drinking problem or a drug habit? Those things aren't always obvious from watching TV you know.
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#59050 - 10/01/04 03:52 AM
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dude, give robbie downey and tommy lee a weekend with jessica simpson and she'll be typhoid mary working a corner for clean pins. point is, she's a fucking moron, nobody should ever look up to her for anything. maybe look up to whoever is managing her, but not her. o
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#59051 - 10/01/04 12:20 PM
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#59052 - 10/01/04 02:28 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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I can't make it all the way through one of Outsider's posts. So instead of attacking anything he said, I'll support some things that other people said.
Stars don't call the shots. They cost too much money, and the movies they star in are too expensive to produce, and the people putting up the money for the movies want to sell as many movie tickets and DVDs as possible. Stars may be treated like royalty during production and they may get the small things they want, but they do whatever the producers and investors think will sell movies. The people who get to call the shots are the people who put up the money for their own movies or work in low budget independent projects. Melissa Lauren calls more shots than Mel Gibson, except when Gibson is paying for his own movie.
Jessica who? Are we talking about someone who actually did something, or are we talking about someone who accidentally caught the media's eye and is struggling desperately to stay in it?
If I was looking for a woman to marry, I'd be turned off by things like substance abuse and dishonesty, but porn wouldn't bother me. The only time porn is bad is when someone is doing it just for the money and hates it.
Any producer who has tried going condom only without large cable contracts has lost market share. If all US producers are forced to use condoms, stores will buy from European porducers. The European porn is already here. Force US producers to produce something that many porn consumers don't want and the European stuff will take over the market. The more porn produced in Europe, the more porn girls who work without the protection of the AIM testing program. Forcing producers to use physical barriers will result in more risk, not less. Government regulators don't have the guts to deal with sex honestly, so their response is to pretend they're dealing with the problem while they make it worse.
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#59053 - 10/01/04 03:11 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
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I can't make it all the way through one of Outsider's posts. So instead of attacking anything he said, I'll support some things that other people said.
Exactly. I never have read an entire outsider post. It's impossible if one's brain is to remain unlike the consistency of cream cheese.
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Stars don't call the shots. They cost too much money, and the movies they star in are too expensive to produce, and the people putting up the money for the movies want to sell as many movie tickets and DVDs as possible. Stars may be treated like royalty during production and they may get the small things they want, but they do whatever the producers and investors think will sell movies. The people who get to call the shots are the people who put up the money for their own movies or work in low budget independent projects. Melissa Lauren calls more shots than Mel Gibson, except when Gibson is paying for his own movie.
It seems you saying that porn girls have the no condom situation forced upon them. No, they don't call the shots on how movies are made, unless they put up the damn money for it. But, they do call the shots for themselves. They can walk out the door.
Safety is a personal choice in this regard. If one thinks fucking without a condom is too dangerous despite the testing system used by the industry, then he/she should not be a porn star. No one is promised that job.
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Any producer who has tried going condom only without large cable contracts has lost market share.
Yep, that's capitalism. Thank god we still have a bit of it left.
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If all US producers are forced to use condoms, stores will buy from European porducers. The European porn is already here. Force US producers to produce something that many porn consumers don't want and the European stuff will take over the market. The more porn produced in Europe, the more porn girls who work without the protection of the AIM testing program. Forcing producers to use physical barriers will result in more risk, not less. Government regulators don't have the guts to deal with sex honestly, so their response is to pretend they're dealing with the problem while they make it worse.
Exactly.
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#59054 - 10/01/04 03:38 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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It seems you saying that porn girls have the no condom situation forced upon them.
Nope. I wasn't talking about condoms at all in that paragraph. I saw enough of one of Outsider's posts to know that he was ranting about stars being people who call the shots. My point is that they don't. Anyone who is paid less than a Hollywood star has more freedom on screen, simply because there's less at stake.
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#59055 - 10/01/04 04:01 PM
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Cool. My mistake. I agree with your point, then.
I was really just using your quotes as a springboard for my own. Nothing personal.
Peace.
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#59056 - 10/01/04 04:57 PM
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What will sell is an Anti-Porn Porn Chick.
What won't sell is more of the same.
The very fact that so many disagree with me means it's a very good idea.
You can all sit around wringing your hands, being angry at the way things are, talk about suing, or moving to another country...
...or you can take lemons, and make lemonade.
Instead of whining like babies about the Cal/OSHA ruling, you need to create a Star who PROMOTES the rulings.
This nasty, rape-style pornography has made MANY of us TUNE OUT.
Bukkakes are for men who really like seeing others men's penises. The girl is simply an excuse to get naked with other men.
DP's are for men who are afraid to admit they like getting sexually close with other men. Plain and simple. Straight men don't like or want to participate in DP's.
Anal sex is what homosexuals love. Again, all the emphasis on anal has really just fed into the psyche of the man who hasn't come to terms with the fact that he likes the smell of ass. The smell of ass is a gay trait. Straight men like pussy.
What's missing in porn, is an approach to MASS MARKETING.
People like to fall in love with STARS.
It's hard to fall in love with a girl you know is escorting, getting peed on by men, doing drugs and drinking, and may have an STD or HIV.
Since no one has really tried my idea yet, it's hard for most of you to imagine the impact of it.
What you need is a girl who can offer something BEYOND the simple act of fucking on camera. Fucking on camera is easy. Being a ROLE MODEL is HARD.
Imagine this interview, with Diane Sawyer talking to this new 'Goddess' on Primetime Live:
SAWYER: "So, let's get a few things straight, Ms. Goddess. First, you say you're a proponent of safe sex in porn. Is that true?
GODDESS: "Absolutely. I had safe sex before I got into this industry, and I will ONLY have safe sex while I'm in this industry. STD's and HIV are NOT cool. Have you seen pictures of what these things can do? It's frightening how many people just don't understand what can happen."
SAWYER: "Tell me if I'm wrong, but you seem to be a woman with a mission. Is that true? Are you on a mission?"
GODDESS: "You bet I am. Pornography is changing. Sex does NOT have to kill to be fun, and enjoyable. Women don't have to become rape victims on camera to get men off. There's a larger market of porn viewers out there that have largely been ignored for the past four years. I call them the 'unjaded'. The normal people. The people whom 'porn creep' has no effect on. The people I'd want to hang out with."
SAWTER: "Are there people in the industry you won't hang out with?"
GODDESS: "Oh my, yes. I can count the number of people I like, and trust, on one hand. I don't party, I don't do drugs, I don't escort, and I don't do nasty things that would appeal to the worst side of humanity. The industry is full of people on the wrong path. It has been for a long, long time. I'm here to change all that. Like you said, I'm a woman on a mission, I guess."
SAWYER VOICE OVER: "We were curious to find out whether this 'Goddess' was too good to be true, so we asked her if our cameras could accompany her to one of her sets. What we found was SHOCKING. Safe sex, instead of the 'throw caution to wind' type sex of past porn, was now the way things were done. And what was truely amazing was the performers. These weren't your drugged up, spaced out porn perfomers of the past. This new generation of performer was, how shall we say...more mature?
SAWYER: "From what our cameras could see, it looked like you were having a pretty good time. Were you? Is it work, or is it fun?"
GODDESS: "It's both. The difference is that with the new Cal/OSHA rulings, you don't have to die doing it. It's brought better talent into the industry, and the quality of the product has gone way up."
SAWTER: "So, what does a porn 'Goddess' do after work. For instance, what are your plans for tonight?"
GODDESS: "Tonight I'm having dinner at a wonderful little restaurant in Avalon, over on Catalina. Really great wine, and the food is definitely worth the trip. After that? Who knows. I'm looking forward to seeing 'The Passion of the Christ' on DVD. I saw it in the theaters, and loved it."
SAWYER: "A porn star who enjoys The Passion of the Christ? Let me get this straight..."
GODDESS: "I'm comfortable with my contradictions. It's a great movie. It's a great story. And Mel Gibson is an amazing writer, and director. Just because I have sex on camera doesn't mean I'm a bad person, or stupid, or desperate. I enjoy what I do. I pick my talent, I pick my scripts, I pick my directors. I make a better product, a product I'm proud of. Off camera, I look just like any other pretty young woman, and I conduct myself that way. Contradictions can be sexy...dontcha think?"
SAWYER: "Well Ms. Goddess, I must admit, on behalf of ABC News...we've never seen anything like you. We're at loss, I guess, to categorize you."
GODDESS: "Thank you."
SAWYER VOICE OVER: "We aren't sure where Goddess' career will go from here. She already has a recording contract, a major Hollywood movie in the works, and is currently dating one the the former members of N'Sync. We can tell you this: No one has never seen anything like Goddess before, and we sure to keep on watching for her next move.
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#59059 - 10/01/04 07:48 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Cool. My mistake. I agree with your point, then.
I was really just using your quotes as a springboard for my own. Nothing personal.
Peace.
No problem with that. Just clearing up the misunderstanding.
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#59060 - 10/10/05 01:37 AM
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Porn Jesus
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bump
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#59061 - 02/28/06 11:49 AM
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Porn Jesus
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bump bump. much like the gorgeous black children that comprised B2K.
i miss toelicker, lisa sparxxx is hideous. does that make me gay? fat girls aren't female.
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