So nothing good lately?

there is. he's pouting at the moment and holding out on more than a few comment section bombs.

A short while ago, someone somewhere wondered about Mike South and Rob Black singing in tune to free the whores of white slavery and essentially thinking alike on several matters in porn.

Both seem conservative, both aren't exactly today's punk porn rockers.
Where Mike South extends his sympathy to Kayden Kross despite her work for his nemesis Manwin, Rob Black has a bit about how he wants to make love to jessica drake despite her work for Wicked and thus Manwin again. Capping with a rubber, tapping and going fetal, as he drew out.
Maybe they're both just hypocrites. South's a retard in any case.

I guess just glancing at the level of political campaigning and media awareness the AIDS Healthcare Foundation recently did and holding that against lame, inarticulate clowns with really bad slogans on the porner side should speak for itself.
Those idiots are just a freak show about as ridiculous as people on Crank - the action flick with Jason Statham - can be these days.

It's bad board etiquette, obviously, but those AIDS Healthcare Foundation people don't consider whores expendable. Whores are people, too. And people are good. Or something. That's a message which can easily be spun for political angles and a message not that easily attackable without getting attacked easily.

who wrote that?

I pimped the documentary several times already; still not bad to read the take from the guy who made it.

Walls of text featuring English courtesy by Francine Amidor, accountant to the whores at LA Direct Models.
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How the internet killed porn

It's 15 years since Louis Theroux turned the TV cameras on to the US porn industry. Now he is revisiting it to see if anything has changed – and he finds a business in crisis

Louis Theroux
The Guardian, Tuesday 5 June 2012 20.00 BST

In a grand suburban house on a quiet cul-de-sac in California's San Fernando Valley an actor is having a problem with her moans. Aleksa Nicole (her professional name) is playing the role of a Latin beauty in A Love Story, a pornographic film about an author of romance novels suffering from writer's block. They are shooting a fantasy sequence in which Aleksa wanders the darkened corridors of the house in a white nightie, carrying a large candlestick. She stumbles into the arms of her forbidden lover, Miguel, played by rising star Xander Corvus, clad in leather trousers, frilly blouse and waistcoat. Helpless in the heat of passion, they make love on the chaise longue.

But there is a small issue. Aleksa's rapid high-pitched squeals of pleasure aren't up to the exacting standards of the film's director.

"Less porno," he says. By way of illustration he offers a different read – less urgent, more ladylike. "Yes, yes, yes!" Then he announces his keyword for the day: "Romantico!"

A Love Story is a new title by the high-end adult movie studio Wicked Picture. And for the world of "adult", the emphasis on the moans is a giveaway that it is not a typical sex film.

For years the porn industry was dominated by an anarchic anything-goes attitude to sex. Directors competed to see who could stage the more outrageous stunts, pushing the performers to the limit of what their bodies could take. The scenes could be hard to watch, as I discovered for myself when I visited sets for a book I was writing in 2004. The sex acts seemed to owe more to reality shows where people eat live worms and pig vomit than anything conventionally erotic.

But some time around 2007, the "business of X" started going into a commercial tailspin. The arrival of free YouTube-style porn sites meant that consumers could download pirated scenes from the vast backlog of old content for free. The phenomenon of DIY amateur sex – part-timers uploading their videos on sites such as clips4sale – also put a dent in the professionals' pay cheques.

Suddenly an industry that was a byword for easy money, raking in billions by exploiting the anonymity of point-and-click purchasing, was fighting for its life.

Making the problems of "adult" even worse was that where consumers might feel enough loyalty to, say, Radiohead to buy their latest release rather than download it illegally, porn users don't have the same feelings about the Dirty Debutantes series. In essence, as with every other media evolution of the last 30 years, from VHS to DVDs to the birth of the internet, porn was once again leading the way, only this time into obsolescence.

And as goes the industry, so go the performers. It's well known that many of them come into porn looking for validation, fleeing lives of damage and abuse. They then sign up to a lifestyle that inflicts stress and illness, not to mention embarrassment, on its young foot soldiers, while offering nothing in the way of pensions and health insurance. Now they find themselves out of work, looking for a Plan B, when the only experience on their resumé is having sex for cash.

On the business side, the porn industry has been desperately trying to adapt. Partly this has been a simple case of cutting back massively. In the early 2000s, a typical issue of the industry bible, the monthly Adult Video News, might have contained hundreds of reviews of new releases. One recent example had just 14. Numerous companies have gone out of business.

Those movie companies that remain are focusing increasingly on high-end product, trying to beat the illegal sites by providing something like a cinematic experience. There is a flight into "quality". In an uncanny echo of a recent BBC slogan, they are embracing the idea of "Fewer, Bigger, Better". For some, this means more female-orientated scenes with less angry sex. Hence A Love Story. For others, it means parodies – of popular TV shows and recent blockbusters.

One of the unlikeliest figures in the new reinvented industry – and a one-man indicator of how much it has changed – is Rob Zicari, better known as Rob Black. In the 90s, Black was one of the most notorious provocateurs in porn. He specialised in tastelessness; his films were more like grotesque exercises in taboo-breaking than anything anyone might conceivably watch for sexual pleasure.

In 1997 I interviewed him in his office in LA and visited him on the set of a production entitled Forced Entry, a film about rape. He was only 23 at the time and I was struck by the strange contrast of his being a friendly, intelligent guy – albeit in an over-caffeinated way – while making porn films that specialised in degrading women. Six years later, Black's provocations caught up with him during George Bush's "war on obscenity" (the war's two other casualties were Justin Timberlake and Janet Jackson, when she exposed her nipple in a dance routine during the Superbowl).

Black and his wife and business partner Janet Romano (better know as Lizzie Borden) did a year each in federal jail for obscenity. Post-prison, a chastened Black has put his Sadean grotesqueries behind him. Now he directs superhero parodies for a mainstream porn company called Vivid – Captain America XXX, Iron Man XXX – in glossy two-disc sets, some of them in 3D.

"Where the business is going now is it's acceptable to sit down with your wife and girlfriend and introduce her to pornography," he tells me during a visit to his new offices. "But the stuff you're going to introduce them to is the stuff I'm making."

He shows me the suit he had used for his Iron Man parody. I remark that in porn terms, it is an impressive prop. "Dude, the suit cost like four grand!" he says. Then, picking up one of his CD cases, in mock-awe at its resemblance to a "real movie", he says: "Look at that! That's a porno!"

Black is adept at putting a positive spin on the retrenchment that porn had undergone. But he appears somewhat ravaged and looks older than his 38 years. He has the air of someone who has been through something that hasn't killed him, but which hasn't made him stronger either.

If times are hard for the Rob Blacks of porn, they're worse still for the men on screen. Even with the superhero parodies and the couples films, and the lower-paid work doing scenes for pay-sites, there is still nowhere near enough employment for the hordes of performers who hope to make a living getting paid to have sex on camera.

At one of the top LA agencies for performers, LA Direct, the accountant Francine Amidor laments the "devastating" impact of piracy. "There's less work, and there's an abundance – because of the economy – of performers. There aren't enough people shooting to give everybody a day's work."

I put it to Amidor that she owes it to the young aspirants who still make their way to the LA Direct offices to explain the consequences of their decision. She demurs. "Because then I would talk three quarters of the girls out of the business and then we wouldn't be in business."

Fees for scenes, not surprisingly, have taken a hit. "Some girls get $600 [£390] for a scene now," the retired performer JJ Michaels tells me. "It might be $900-$1,000 for a big-name girl. It used to get up to $3,000." For guys, rates can be $150 or lower.

Women supplement their income by stripping and doing live shows over the internet, shot from home on their webcams. One evening I visit one of LA Direct's top performers, Kagney Linn Karter – star of Rack-Tastic and Pound the Round – at her house as she prepares for her bi-monthly live show. Her boyfriend and full-time assistant Montae is hanging up her dresses while Kagney bathes and puts on her makeup. Montae and I then retreat to the kitchen where he tidies and wipes down surfaces while Kagney strips on her bed and masturbates in front of the strangers viewing her through her laptop. Forty-five minutes later, she emerges. "Well, I made a hundred dollars," she says brightly.

It's an open secret in the porn world that many female performers are supplementing their income by "hooking on the side". It's also called "doing privates", as in private bookings. The official industry line is that it's dangerous (because clients aren't tested the way performers are) and irresponsible (because the women could then infect the closed community of professional performers). But the women can make far more money having sex behind closed doors than doing it on film and, in fact, the practice is widespread. For many female performers nowadays, the movies are merely a sideline, a kind of advertising for their real business of prostitution.

Male performers do not have the same options. For a tiny subsection of top talent, there is still a regular pay cheque, albeit a shrinking one. But work has dried up for many of the journeyman-performers in the lower ranks and there is a great deal of anxiety across the board.

In the 90s one of the best-known male performers was Jon Dough – birth name Chet Anuszak. He was on contract with Vivid – the only man in the business to be exclusive to a company at that time. He had a reputation for being a dependable "woodsman" and was well liked in adult circles. I interviewed him in 1996 on the set of a remake of Debbie Does Dallas. But when he killed himself in 2006 at the age of 43 it was widely assumed that the woes of the industry – and specifically declining DVD sales – played a role.

Jon Dough's widow is a fellow performer whose stage name is Monique DeMoan. They met on the set of Dr Butts 3: The Anal Asylum and eventually had a daughter together. No one in the world of porn knows Monique's whereabouts but I tracked her down to a conservative state many hundreds of miles – physically, culturally – from Los Angeles.

Standing in the low-ceilinged basement flat in an insalubrious area, she says that her husband killed himself over his cocaine addiction, and the instability and sense of failure that went with it, not because of the pressures of the industry. Still, the perception among Dough's peers that DVD sales were a factor reflects an emotional truth: people in the world of porn were all too ready to believe that a top performer might have killed himself over the decline of a media format.

Still they arrive, the cohorts of aspiring performers, looking for new lives of wealth and stardom in a world that can no longer offer either. If Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian can make sex tapes, they ask, then why shouldn't they? They tour the production companies for meet-and-greets with casting agents and directors, tick boxes on questionnaires about what they are willing to do on camera. They make one or two low-end scenes for the internet, before being chucked back into anonymity.

On a rainy day, back on the same spacious suburban house on the quiet street in the valley where A Love Story was filmed, another production is under way. This time, it is a more modest affair – a few scenes made for an internet site. One of the male performers is a young man on his second shoot, performing under the name Tony Prince.

His partner for the scene is called Stefania. It is her third shoot and she seems excited to have press around. "I'm trying to become one of the big porn stars," she says. She asks to take a picture with me, which she later tweets.

The scene is supposed to look like a real-life boyfriend and girlfriend sex tape. One advantage of this is that there is no need for a cameraman. The performers shoot the action themselves. While they got down to business, to alleviate any possible performance anxiety on Tony's part, the director and I make ourselves scarce in the kitchen. He has been in the business since 1998, and he too is pessimistic about its future. "It's like I tell guys all the time, you better make this your side gig," he says.

A few hours later, the two performers are laughing and showering together, both happy with how the shoot had gone. In a reversal of the usual order of things, they are flirting and becoming friends after sex.

Where the industry will end up is hard to predict. Clearly there is still a market for softcore movies made by companies such as Penthouse and Hustler, available on subscription channels. The parodies may continue for a while, too. But it is difficult to see how a business selling hardcore movies and even internet clips is sustainable when most people simply don't want to pay if they don't have to. To many people, when it comes to porn, not paying for content seems the more moral thing to do.

"The way it is now, within five years I don't see how there could be a professional porn actor," Michaels tells me. It's not easy to sympathise with the porn companies, which made so much money for so long by embracing a tawdry business and a dysfunctional work-pool. But it is worth sparing a thought for the legions of performers, qualified for nothing much more than having sex on camera, who have no money saved, and no future.

And there is also the wider question: do those who use porn not, perhaps, owe it a little something? Should those who download it not be ready to pass on a little cash incentive to the business? And if not, why not? Does the stigma attached to porn make it OK to steal it? These questions underpin a much bigger dilemma being faced by all media: how do you sustain an industry that provides a certain standard of product – be it journalism, music, or mainstream movies, or X-rated movies – when more and more consumers are in the habit of downloading content for free? In the world of porn, the answer is: you can't.

• Twilight of the Pornstars is on BBC2 on Sunday at 10pm

• This article was amended on 15 June 2012 because the original version misnamed some of the films and people it mentioned. The correct names are: Pound the Round, not Pound Round; Rack-Tastic, not Racktastic; Aleksa Nicole, not Alexa Nicole; and Montae, not Monte.
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Aroused Not Satisfying

Posted by: Abbey Smith Posted date: May 05, 2013

Aroused is a documentary consisting of interviews with 16 adult movie actresses. It is not about pornography or the industry. Filmmaker Deborah Anderson conducts the interviews and serves as the narrator of the film. She also appears in front of the camera as she shoots the subjects for a coffee-table book.

The main point of Aroused is to sell the filmmaker’s book. It features a lot of behind-the-scenes footage that showed Anderson asked her subjects into softening their eyes for the camera. Her book is about revealing a more vulnerable humanity than what is associated with hardcore sex performers.

She wants to show that it is art and not porn. This is a difficult task for most of the actresses involved in Aroused. Most of them seem too young to be guarded. Several of the girls shed tears in the later part of the documentary but the tears are not that shocking.

The women talk about their lives. Topics include their introduction to sex, promiscuity, STDs, family disapproval, drug use, cosmetic surgery, and the conventional standards of decency. Aroused tackles the dark side of the porn industry that takes a toll on its practitioners despite the money they earn from it.

Fran Amidor, an adult-film talent agent, said that each time someone does a sex scene in front of the camera, a small part of their soul disappears. Most of the actresses say they went into the business for the money but didn’t say how much they earn from it.

Anderson fails to ask the most interesting questions. Aroused doesn’t tackle the conflicted relationship that most of the viewers of adult movies have with sex. This could be symbolized by the tattoo of one of the actresses that read Filth and Beauty.

Aroused manages to make people curious but it fails to satisfy the curiosity. It features a lot of talk about taking back their sexuality but how can they get back something they have already sold.
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I did, obviously. Why?

Steezo was suspicious as well once.
He assumed I copied something from somewhere. He was wrong.

Funniest statement on XPT. Ever.

Typical.

Amber Lynn, a shot out whore who seems to have been recruited by Larry Flynt, is the sister of Buck Adams, a dead whore fucker who directed her once.
She came back for the MILFolympics.
She's hosting a show called XXX Porn Star Radio. Bill Margold and Seka are guests of her inaugural episode.
The link to the streaming platform:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/allpleasurenetwork/2013/05/10/amber-lynn

Pics from the documentary After Porn Ends:

A short while ago, someone somewhere wondered about Mike South and Rob Black singing in tune to free the whores of white slavery and essentially thinking alike on several matters in porn.

Both seem conservative, both aren't exactly today's punk porn rockers.
Where Mike South extends his sympathy to Kayden Kross despite her work for his nemesis Manwin, Rob Black has a bit about how he wants to make love to jessica drake despite her work for Wicked and thus Manwin again. Capping with a rubber, tapping and going fetal, as he drew out.
Maybe they're both just hypocrites. South's a retard in any case.

I guess just glancing at the level of political campaigning and media awareness the AIDS Healthcare Foundation recently did and holding that against lame, inarticulate clowns with really bad slogans on the porner side should speak for itself.
Those idiots are just a freak show about as ridiculous as people on Crank - the action flick with Jason Statham - can be these days.

It's bad board etiquette, obviously, but those AIDS Healthcare Foundation people don't consider whores expendable. Whores are people, too. And people are good. Or something. That's a message which can easily be spun for political angles and a message not that easily attackable without getting attacked easily.


The show hosted by Amber Lynn's the same old shit getting pushed out another asshole.

The content of the show began after heavy ass-kissing for about half an hour or so, where everyone just hugged it out. Bill Margold participated. He actually seems to give teddy bears to whores and calls them kids, like Rob Black mentioned.

The lies are badly aged, utterly trivial, overcome and mentally resourceful.

If whoever from the Free Speech Coalition who was on there just regurgitates the overcome idiocy of a testing regime which was pointed out to be little more than a whore tranquilizer so not too many of them begin to wonder about their actual, not stated risk of exposure to STDs and STIs, it doesn't look good.

If the AIDS Healthcare Foundation campaigning has arguments pointing out that the frequency of tests is irrelevant when the type of tests used aren't checking for relevant unwanted souvenirs - of artistic carnal expression captured on video - and/or aren't checking for dormant things and in the right parts of holes, it doesn't look good.

If the Free Speech Coalition's argument is that, once the enforcement of recently passed legal reglementation - a worker's safety issue - happens, the whore tranquilizer testing with a lot of holes in it could stop, it doesn't look good.

It looks really bad, actually. Like retarded children who don't want to get the medicine which lets their friends go to sleep and not wake up.

The story about officials likening porners to animals is born by people who have difficulty reading and thinking without interference.
The original argument, probably added by the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, was that trained animals in films where people don't fuck in front of the lens had more rights and were legally more regulated than people in videos where people fuck in front of the lens.

Bill Margold was the least deluded person on the show. His take to save porn would be three rules, among other things*:

- "The choice is to raise the age to 21,"
- "the choice is to test every other week and"
- "the choice should be to be tested for drugs on every single level."


* Other things:

- There doesn't appear to be any money to enforce pornish workplace safety issues right now; a new campaign apart from the "First Amendment" or the "freedom of choice" in favour of a fight "on a humanitarian level" should do the trick. "The trick is to take care of ourselves from within." Great.

Amber Lynn in After Porn Ends admits: "... you know, I was the kind of person - I lived a life of excess and people would invite me to parties and they would think: 'Wow, if I offer her some party tools, then I'm gonna have my night set up; I'm gonna wind up getting laid all night by this beautiful pornstar.' And then, as my addiction went through another door, they'd hand me the bag of coke and I'd wind up in the bathroom all night, you know... and you wouldn't be able to drag me out of the bathroom and I'd be like: 'Don't touch me and [non-verbal] ..."

Amber Lynn doubted the legality of testing Bill Margold suggested, unless it was being done voluntarily. Selflessness at work right there, I assume. Come on, sobriety counseling. Bill Margold mentioned that whores are professional athletes, just like in two US major leagues. And not animals. Crystalline.

The woman from the Free Speech Coalition sounded as if she was going to have some sort of fit or seizure when she uttered "industry-appropriate regulations" which didn't get done according to plan.

These people are all diseased and retarded.

Hot, but never beautiful. Flop #1, Subsection a.: Whores lie to themselves.

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5/14/2013

Seymore Butts Revealed as The "Punk Bitch Douchebag"

--Gene Ross

Rob Black on his Tuesday show revealed that it was Seymore Butts who was the “punk bitch” he was talking about on his show the day before. This is what I wrote in that report:

Black explained that he was tweeted Friday by a “punk irrelevant douchebag” who claimed he was watching Black on his show, Friday, selling the business down the river in a desperate attempt to gain relevance- “follow your nose to the oozing stench of desperation.”

Black talked like he had a good idea who the guy was.

“But he didn’t say my name,” Black continued. “If this guy’s listening to my show, hey, bro, why don’t you say my name, you little punk bitch. Why don’t you say you’re responsible for the tweets. Come on you tough guy, you rat. Come on you fucking punk.

"I’ll bend you over, and I’ll fuck you in your asshole myself. I will bat your head in so it’s a violent act, and Tom Byron will be spraying the lube in your asshole so I won’t chafe my dick."

“Only bitch punk’s self-tweet,” said Black who also wondered if Michael Moore could be accused of selling out or be up for treason by making his documentaries.

“I’m selling out the business because the Free Speech Coalition are corrupt scum bags?”

Black suspected that whoever tweeted him used to work for Frank Koretsky.

“You used to be on TV, you punk bitch. You had to suck Frank Koretsky’s little cock. Now you’re a jealous little nobody that makes movies nobody gives a shit about. You’re somebody who doesn’t perform in movies any more because his dick don’t work. You’re old and decrepit and you sub tweet.” Black said people like this guy makes him sick.

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Now that Black revels its Butts I couldn’t agree with him more. In his own defense, Black said he was the one who put his balls on the line to make the business what it was and took performers like Jasmin St. Claire and put them over the top.

“That is the stuff we did. Irrelevant? Irrelevant in what stratosphere. I have armies of fans who go everyday when are you bring XPW back not when are you putting your dick in someone’s asshole?

“The top girls from two years ago, nobody hears from because Spiegler and LA Direct burns them out.

“Let me explain to you pretenders- you are sex workers, pimps, panderers; guess what motherfuckers- when everybody clings on to every word you say, you tell me what irrelevance is. I’ve got customer service strangers hitting me up when is XPW coming back. I hear XPW is coming back.”

To explain that last statement, Black told a story about how he bonded with a customer service rep from his server company who recognized him from XPW wrestling.
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[Seymore Butts pics source interview with brain lag at around 53:30]








[bonus content]

[an interview with Farley Cahen, then COO of Digital Playground]

It always cracks me up when self-called tough guys use such homo-erotic language while trying to be threatenng. What's that about?

I'll leave out the pop analysis part.

In the case of Rob Black, he mentioned several times that he took dick, maybe in prison, maybe after he got out and sucked cock for money. Until Scientology saved him, because "you don't do that."

Even OMaR knows that Scientology doesn't only dislike shrinks, but fags, too. It's in their pilot novel, I guess.

If Black took dick and knows Butts did as well, he's indirectly applying for alpha fag.

Seymour Butts looks like a fucking cancer patient

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Jennifer Larsen, Former Adult Entertainment Exec, Dies
By Lila Gray

Wednesday, May 15, 2013

SANTA ANA, Calif. — Jennifer Larsen, former talent coordinator at Hustler and PR and marketing manager at Digital Playground, passed away from an apparent suicide on Sunday.

The Orange County coroner confirmed to XBIZ that the cause of death was a perforating gunshot wound to the head.

After leaving Digital Playground, Larsen worked for the U.S. Army National Guard.

Long-time friend and colleague James Bartholet said that he was not aware of any severe depression that Larsen was going through around the time of her death. They last spoke at an adult trade show in January.

“I thought we were going to hear from Jennifer,” Bartholet said. “She said, ’I’ve got a leave or something coming up and I’m going to come and visit with you guys.’ That was a month or two ago.

"I never heard from her and then the tragic news — one of our mutual friends called me last night. He said that she passed away. And as I was doing more investigation into this, it seems that she committed suicide.

“She was just a really wonderful person,” Bartholet added. “She was a really hard worker. She was always a good person to hang out with.”

Bartholet also noted that Larsen was a mother and that the incident occurred on Mother’s Day.

“Being a parent myself, I’m just shocked that she would do something like that because these kids are going to be scarred for the rest of their lives,” he said. “You know, Mother’s Day comes up and it’s going to be like ‘this is when my mother died.’”

Larsen studied at Ashford University in Clinton, Iowa, and graduated from Pacifica High in Garden Grove, Calif. in 1995.

She was living in Orange County at the time of her death.
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Order in the 'arium.

[what happened before]





He can't quote consistently, like so many others...
What he transcribes isn't anywhere relevant in terms of punctuation. Rob Black's all over the place. The Pornarium has an excerpt reflecting this somewhat.
Where he gave TheRealPornWikiLeaks "credit" where he considered it due, TheRealPornWikiLeaks published a press release by the Free Speech Coalition without declaring it as such at least once.
Comparing writing's not that difficult, actually.

Mark Kernes' recent "analysis" text on AVN was interesting to read.
Not because of his trivial attempts at spin; for the grammar. If it's his.

Mike South just wants blacks and jews to suffer. Deep inside the business and all that.

Mike South is Jewish. Carry on, Gene Jr.

heh...

i know you're trying but for the sake of the people that read this forum and don't want to fall asleep trying to get to your point can you do a tl;dr version of whatever the fuck you're on about at the end of your submission?. people do it all the time on the more frequently read forums. there's no shame in it pipe..it's actually decent board etiquette.

His remarks towards Steven Hirsch were vintage. Vintage ideology.
Mentally resourceful as expected.

This was the compressed version.
The uncompressed one takes some time to read the linked articles.
It's functional.

There usually can't be any discussion if everything above a line of text's too much to get through. That's a pity, actually.

Less cryptic perhaps. In the future. Here.

try two or three lines then because you're unreadable at this point and you're undermining all the effort you put in. that's not a shot at the werk you're doing...just the delivery.

That's the problem. He's still pitching it to OMR in his Sasha schtick.

Getting sunburned is a serious problem for the homeless community.

Who is that? Looks like my tattoo guy.

That is AdultDUI's Gene Ross, allegedly.

Great beard.

Or like Scott Fayner.

[it happened before]

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Just Like Porners, You Can Lead Them to Water….And They Drown In It

By MikeSouth

May 14th, 2013

Last weeks letter from Peter raised quite the stir, some think it’s fake some think it’s real but very few people really took it for what it was…a really good warning.

Alex Chance went out of her way to go get tested to prove she didn’t have Syphilis so it couldn’t have been true and must have been someone trying to exact revenge on her or whatever. AVN of course fawned all over that part of the story but you didn’t read word one about the original letter there or the implications of it until Ms Chance took them her test results.

Alex Chance never denied being an escort on TheLuxuryCompanion, even having admitted to it, it just became all about the STD’s

I even had one guy who works in the biz apparently as crew telling me that I should be helping the FSC to win the fight against AB332, apparently he misses the point….I AM trying to help them…Admittedly to no avail. he says if it passes he will hold me responsible for him not being able to feed his wife and kids…As if my cheering for a monkey trying to play chess will have any effect other than to excite the other monkeys.

He is following the “hazmat suit”, “we have a system that works”, “fax your assemblyman” crowd and he will blame me if they fail…sorry bro but if you are that stupid maybe you deserve to lose your job, I hear McDonalds is hiring, that doesn’t require much thought.

The solution is actually pretty simple and we had the ability to implement it and ward this legislation off ages ago..but we didn’t

1. Condom neutral, period

2. Companies carry workers comp insurance as required by law

3. companies pay for testing as required by law

4. (this is the tougher one but not as tough as fighting AB332) Get the STI situation in porn under control. Expand testing, close loopholes that allow performers to cheat the system and start weeding out the performers that wont comply

Pretty simple really…and Measure B and AB332 would never have happened. We were told back around 2006 to do it or they would do it for us, we didn’t and they are.

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Two comments I considered to be more on topic than others:
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Karmafan:

Problem is porn pays nothing now and escorting is their way to make a decent living. They probably can’t survive on porn money,


rawalex:

I agree with you here.

We all know that the girls (and the guys) over the years have been doing some escort work on the side. Some girls feature dance instead (or as well), but some have always escorted.

The downturn in the porn world in the last few years has made this an even bigger problem. Porn doesn’t pay like it use to, there isn’t anywhere near as many products, and as a results, the girls aren’t shooting as much – or making as much money. So they have to do something to earn a living and escorting is the next step down the road from making porn (or it’s nearest neighbor).

So Mike, point #4 is pretty much moot, because the porn workers will almost always be fucking someone on the side for pay, for their relationship, or just for fun, and it’s hard to control that. Nobody in the porn world has enough time or money to somehow lock the stars up long enough for a full incubation period to make the tests truly accurate, so there isn’t much that can be done.

Even with all of the testing in the world, it’s unlikely that anyone will show absolutely that the situation would be safer than a full condom, full dental dam, no creampie / no facial situation. Worjplace safety, if truly enforced, would eliminate most of the acts in porn, as each and every one of them has some sort of risk of transmission – and a risk that employers would be aware of and could avoid. I am not saying hazmat suits here, but clearly if any risk is too much, then the money shots are a thing of the past too.

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What I see in Mike South's article above's a good amount of wishful thinking.


The solution is actually pretty simple and we had the ability to implement it and ward this legislation off ages ago..but we didn’t

1. Condom neutral, period

2. Companies carry workers comp insurance as required by law

3. companies pay for testing as required by law

4. (this is the tougher one but not as tough as fighting AB332) Get the STI situation in porn under control. Expand testing, close loopholes that allow performers to cheat the system and start weeding out the performers that wont comply

Pretty simple really…and Measure B and AB332 would never have happened. We were told back around 2006 to do it or they would do it for us, we didn’t and they are.


This seems to allude to a meeting people from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in California (Cal/OSHA) had with porn people.

Among the porn people there seems to have been Mark Logan of AVN, also known as Eli Cross, one-man porn machine.

According to Rob Black and his court writer Gene Ross, at the meeting Eli Cross didn't contain himself and was offensive; he might've allegedly told someone from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in California (Cal/OSHA) to fuck their mother or something to this effect, something offensive and that porn as a whole would never accept forced condom use.

Michael Weinstein, currently president of the AIDS Healthcare Foundation, supposedly was at this meeting and rather shocked, according to Black. It could be that Black drew out another exaggerated storyline unfit for wrestling, but nice enough for radio anyway. Yet, as the narrative suggested, Weinstein became an adamant opposer of the porn industry's disregard for his concerns about safety at the porn workplace in that meeting.

If there's any truth to this stuff - whatever the fuck. This is porn infotainment.


1. Condom neutral, period

1. - Yeah, self-regulation seems to be the way to go here; dictation's over, the case is closed.

No, it isn't and it's been refuted by the AIDS Healthcare people in much more detail, in an online appearance on Huffington Post Live, for example, where their guy, among all the freaks and creeps, told a giggling Diane Duke that it's all good theatre, just basically worthless.

I agree. The arguments from the porn industry people look like transparent lies when looking a bit closer. Infantile, inarticulate, insufficient in a way.

If some whores'll fuck on video and do it rubber-less and some won't and there's a clearly stated preference among the producers, it's obvious what's likely to happen:

Whores'll offer the rubber-less fucking on video to actually not get ostracised with the part of the whorde (whore horde, obviously) who thinks it's rainbows and unicorns time already, that change is coming, that life'll be better as a whore. It probably won't be.


2. Companies carry workers comp insurance as required by law

3. companies pay for testing as required by law.

2., 3. - Surprisingly reasonable when seen as a professional business. Costs to comply while producing appealing, marketable content and being competitive are things big studios might be able to do. Porn would become more corporate and less clueless, would most likely apply more market research and testing and get rid of people who still seem to hang around from way back in some places. People who don't get shit done.


4. (this is the tougher one but not as tough as fighting AB332) Get the STI situation in porn under control. Expand testing, close loopholes that allow performers to cheat the system and start weeding out the performers that wont comply

4. - That the whore melange ("talent pool") is somehow actually free of infection and disease is something South doesn't seem to assume here at least.

When it's said that there allegedly is a doctor essentially fixing tests for his whore patients and this doctor's name's allegedly supposed to be Riggs, it becomes a bit much. Especially if what the alleged doctor allegedly fixes are tests based on methods which don't test for all STDs and STIs or don't properly do so in all areas the infection or disease can reside in the whores' bodies.

So unless he's speaking out for an immediate change of heart and a sudden revolution, what South seems to want is a redesign of the outer appearance of a ridiculously flawed testing system in self-moderation. He wants the clique to change and a bit of what they do, but it's all okay in the end and John Stagliano's at low risk to infect whores with HIV while licking and fingering them, if Stagliano has it. But that type of low-risk porno making should be explored in more detail once some media attention's passed.
That's his take; I mentioned it before in this thread somewhere.


Pretty simple really…and Measure B and AB332 would never have happened. We were told back around 2006 to do it or they would do it for us, we didn’t and they are.

Of course.
Everything would be different if only Eli Cross hadn't told the Occupational Safety and Health Administration in California (Cal/OSHA) off.
Everything would be different if only Mr. Marcus hadn't faked his test and infected some other whores with syphilis.
Everything and more.

That there was no self-regulated change in porn production and that there might be a reason for this as well should be obvious.
The need wasn't felt in the proper places.

sunburn... I'd say booze

tha^t'd be impressive but the fruity drink and sorbet scream lightweight.

Looks like pistachio, terraforming edition.

Girly drinks are tasty tho.

is that really the only pic of him?. thats a helluva keyboard warrior sunburn. fuck

This only works to full effect in its lengthy entirety.
I boldened some stuff for a general overview.


Gene Ross is a retard.

He posts a link to the Farrah Abraham Backdoor Teen Mom video on a tube site.
That title is telling for a reason.

The posted video was about 43 minutes long and has since been taken down from the streaming platform Gene Ross linked to initially.

While in two posts on one day he claims that Abraham took it in the ass before for sure, on the next day he first focuses on James Deen's take on the lame PR play because the whore fucker talked about it on the radio. Then Ross says he saw the video he linked to and mentions two things:

- There was no way Farrah Abraham could've been impregnated by James Deen in an anal scene.

- There was no visual proof anywhere in the video that ass fucking actually happened. He suspected trickery for monetary gain.

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5/14/2013

Thoughts Over The Morning's Coffee: Farrah Abraham is An Anal Pro

--Gene Ross

You can talk about your teen moms, and, love her or hate her, Farrah Abraham can give all the interviews she wants. But Farrah Abraham, unbeknownst to the same mainstream press that seems to gush all over her, is an anal pro.

Attention whore par excellence, Farrah has taken it in the ass before. No blushing ass bride by any means, this girl certainly knows her way around dick. Farrah is to cock what Benny Goodman is to the clarinet. Her sainted mom, I'm sure would be mortified to know that.

Now, thanks to Steve Hirsch’s buddies over at xvideos.com the rest of the world is spared the expense of Farrah’s sex tape.

Because if you had plucked down a hard nickel in this economy to watch it, you might have been disappointed, maybe even pissed off. Farrah has a pert ass,that's for sure, but there's nothing to write home about. This is another day at the porn office.

And now that you can see it on the cheap, your money's better served for a bottle of Dramamine which will get you through camera work that’ll make you positively sea sick.

When I saw the abbreviated version first made available on xhamsters.com I got the impression it was shot in a hotel room, but this version puts it in a loft.

Chatting like boyfriend and girlfriend home from a date, Farrah remarks on the size of James Deen’s cock in a positive way. Remember those interviews where she said she’s seen a few cocks and Jimmy Deen’s porn sausage ranked paltry for size? Remember how she ripped James a new asshole, where throughout this tape she's condescending to him like a Deenager in love.

Was my ass amazing? She asks James at one point. There's an anal pro for ya. Well, it was nice, Farrah, but other than the fact you’ve decided to become a publicity freak show I’ve seen enough of you to last a life time.

Frankly, I’d have enjoyed less convention and more Kink.com on James’ part. He treated you too much like the obsequious boyfriend when in the hands of Princess Donna your head would have been put through a wall.

Don't take my word for it, see it for yourself [I removed this link.]

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5/14/2013

Update: Farrah Abraham Sex Tape Yanked from XVideos.com

--Gene Ross

My late brother had this saying that women were like dogs, just as soon as you start liking one they either get run over by a truck or run off with the pack. In the case of Farrah Abraham her sex tape has just been yanked from XVideos.com

Farrah, we hardly knew ye.

See the review here www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=58633

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5/15/2013

Thoughts Over The Morning's Coffee: James Deen Visits with the Relevant Kevin and Bean

--Gene Ross

Farrah Abraham has been lying from the get go. And even though Kevin & Been "suck" according to Rob Black, James Deen was on their relevant morning show to give the absolute low down on the Abraham sex tape, Backdoor Teen Mom.

As I noted in my review of it, Farrah Abraham has been fucked in the ass before. No doubt about it. This girl is no stranger to dick in her butt. Although Deen doesn't mention Gina Rodriguez by name, I told Rob Black on his show Friday that rumors, were, Rodriguez- though I didn't mention her by name- I was waiting for the right time- had been banging Steve Hirsch and that's how the Abraham deal was consummated.

Until yesterday XVideos.com had been offering the tape for nothing. But that's okay another tube site will pick it up.

Deen, I'll say this for him, is a pretty open guy. But Deen contradicts himself. "I was proud of the way I shot it," he says. In the beginning of the interview Deen also states, "'It's a Vivid movie. Vivid called me and said we're making a porno do you want to be in it.'"

I shot it, but Vivid did it. Perhaps we quibble. Deen said he asked who the girl was, looked up stuff on Abraham and thought she looked "cute".

"We talked and I said my requirements; she said her requirements and we shot a scene."

Asked if he made $5,000 as stated in press reports, Deen said he didn't like talking about how much money he makes. "It makes me uncomfortable. But I can safely say it's not accurate and I can safely say it came from the same place her check came from, a payroll company which is PES Payroll which is employed by Vivid Entertainment."

Asked if Abraham was responsible for all the lies, Deen said, "Vivid works with everyone. I don't know if they came to her, she came to them. Her manager is an ex adult performer [Gina Rodriguez] and she has connections with people and so, however it happened, it happened. It's none of my business. I don't care.

"All I know is I get a call from the director and she says, 'Hey we need somebody who is under 30 to do this scene.' It was back and forth and it came to this whole thing that she [Abraham] had a marketing plan that conflicted with Vivid's marketing plan. But Vivid didn't care because for reasons I'm not allowed to disclose. I don't like invading peoples' personal space and privacy. And I don't want to say something that isn't my business to advertise."

It was noted that Abraham was mad at Deen for talking about the tape. Deen explains.

"I didn't talk about the tape. What happened is I picked her up at her hotel room to drive her to the set. She doesn't do adult films. I understand her being nervous about having sex with a stranger.

"She wanted to hang out beforehand. I would if I could, but I was flat out busy. Friday we got tested. Saturday our tests come back. Sunday is when we shot the scene. Friday is when we met at the testing facility. Saturday I was on set all day. Sunday, I picked her up on the way to set and hung out while she was in make up and stuff. On the way out of the hotel room someone took a picture of us. We were holding hands. I was trying to flirt and be nice."

[Which means someone was alerted- my guess, Rodriguez put in a call to TMZ]

After the picture was taken Deen got a call from TMZ 7 AM Monday.

"Hey, are you dating this girl? What's going on? I said we're not dating, we did a porno. It turned into this big, huge mess. Before we shot she was doing her marketing strategy and Vivid had their marketing strategy. I'm not going to lie about this. Then Vivid handed me an NDA [non disclosure agreement] the day of set.

"I'm not signing an NDA. Besides it wasn't a standard NDA. It basically said if anything happens they can cut off my arms. This is on the set. I said there's no way I'm going to sign this without giving it to my lawyer. So I said I'm not going to sign this. If you don't want to shoot this scene, that's fine, I'll leave.

"So I never signed anything but a standard model release. I can safely say I did not get paid by Farrah. I got paid from Vivid. Farrah was paid from Vivid. Farrah was paid the day of set. They handed her a check.

"My stipulations to do the scene was 1) she had to be tested the same way I was. 2) she had to be on birth control. I was sworn by the people at Vivid that she was on birth control. So this pregnancy-thing, I'm, like, here's the thing. I didn't test her urine. I didn't see her taking birth control so I'm going off on the people I've known. I've known these people for years. I've been working for Vivid since 2004. So I've known these people for years and when they tell me she was on birth control, I'm maybe I shouldn't have trusted them; maybe I should have done my own research.

"But also I don't know if you've seen the video but it's called Backdoor Teen Mom...this is my issue with what's going on now. 1) it's ridiculous; 2) It means I got lied to by people I trusted which is hurtful and makes me sad. 3) When you're telling people I got paid this much money or it's my thing, people can say whatever they want; it doesn't really matter.

"It bother me that there's a rumor of me being a prostitute and making like private sex tapes for people. But it's not my style. When you start involving a potential baby, that's not something that is something to joke about or make a marketing scheme."

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5/15/2013

Thoughts Over the Morning's Second Cup of Coffee: Diane Duke is Such a Phony

--Gene Ross

In an interview he did with Kevin and Bean this week, www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=58644 James Deen addressed the blather Farrah Abraham’s been putting out there, that he knocked her up in her sex tape.

Forget the fact that it was an anal scene. The only pregnancy Abraham fears to have is if she gave birth to a shit head.

Years ago, another girl was in the business for a brief time. Her name was Devon Deray. Deray told a story in Seymore Butt’s Devon Does Buttsville about her lingering affair with a pro basketball legend. It wasn’t Michael Jordan. It was Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

The only reason I mention that, other than for the salacious value, is that Deray went on to accuse porn performer Michael J. Cox of having impregnated her. Never mind that theirs was an anal scene. Just like the one Deen and Farrah Abraham had.

You’d think that Diane Duke would be jumping into this argument. After all, Duke was an executive with Planned Parenthood which basically makes her a glorified condom salesman.

And this has been my problem with Duke all along. She gets paid $150,000 a year from Free Speech with no qualifications whatsoever to run such an organization because - she’s basically a condom salesman. Let me say that again, Diane Duke’s a condom salesman.

But here you have all these porn performers, like obedient little children, lining up behind Duke contesting the condom ordinance, Measure B. Did any of these people stop and say to themselves, Diane’s a condom salesman. What is she doing on the other side of this issue?

That answer is pretty obvious. Duke can be bought. Manwin buys her. People who think they’re paying for PSA’s buy her. XBiz and AVN support her, but in the end, Diane Duke in reality is a condom salesman. That’s what she is.

If that’s the qualifications needed for running Free Speech then Chad Braverman of Doc Johnson or Susan Colvin should be running the show, not Duke. At least they’re honest about how they make a living. Which leads to another puzzling question. How could Braverman and Colvin line up behind Duke when she’s so diametrically opposed to the products they sell? At least now she is.

Ah, but Duke will tell you the industry has good testing so you don't need condoms. Except Rob Black already told us about the crossover guys in porn. www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=58642 "Fanooks" I think he calls them.

Tessa Lane admits she bangs guys on the way home from Sardo’s. I think those are called whores, and Alex Chance worked for an escort company. I think those are called hookers.

Gotta love that testing.

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5/15/2013

Thoughts Over The Morning's Third Cup of Coffee; Farrah Anal Tape a Phony

--Gene Ross

Think about it. Farrah Abraham is voicing concern that she may have been knocked up by James Deen. And with good reason. It wasn't an anal tape.

I saw the movie, and besides the fact that Farrah behaved like a woman who's taken dozens of anal vacations, something didn't add up. That something is that nowhere in that tape is there an establishing shot. And by that I mean the validation shot that Deen's dick is actually going square in her ass. Everything's carefully shot from an angle where basic doggie can be played off as anal. Methinks the customer has been screwed again by the 1%-ers. And that makes James Deen complicit. Prove to me I'm wrong.

Back when I was running AVN I used to tell my reviewers, unless you see a validation shot, either the scene is a phony anal scene or subtract points accordingly in your review. After I left AVN, that rule went by the boards and I saw scenes up for anal sex scene awards that had no business being in that category. I called AVN on it but I was the bad guy.

My opinion? Farrah fans have been bamboozled.

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5/15/2013

Here’s How The Farrah Abraham Tape Probably Went Down


--Gene Ross


James Deen’s interview with the Kevin and Bean show provided several tantalizing pieces to the Farrah Abraham sex tape puzzle.

We all knew from the beginning that it was a set up. First it was going to be a "discovered" sex tape. Then Farrah said she put the tape together herself, but we all know that was BS.

Farrah is the client of Gina Rodriguez who used to rep Octomom. Deen in his K&B interview didn’t have to identify that it was Rodriguez because I heard this weeks ago, that Rodriguez and Steve Hirsch were sharing sheets after his split with ex wife Laurie Hirsch.

Let’s say Rodriguez brings Hirsch this idea. But where the plan went afoul is the photo TMZ took of Abraham and Deen coming out of the Vivid building.

Was it Rodriguez who tipped off TMZ? Who can say? Now, all of a sudden, stories had to be put together to explain that picture. And none of the alibis made any sense. Deen in that K&B interview also gave a lot of background info on how the tape came about. He referred to someone at Vivid who made the tape referring to her as “she”. Was it Rodriguez? Was it Marci Hirsch? Who would be the Vivid’s female director?

Regarding the tape itself: It’s being promoted as an anal tape, but nowhere in that scene do we get the shot that says Deen’s dick is actually going in Farrah’s ass. The shot as they say in the business is "cheated."

For one thing, Farrah, for an amateur is way too chipper about the whole thing, especially with the fact that James carries a small cannon. That was the other thing. In her interviews Farrah went on about how James was small and his attitude abusive. Deen has been pretty cool with the whole thing, and he's by no means small unless Farrah's used to African American dick up her ass.

And maybe Deen has to be the cool guy in all this, because if this tape is a phony and Farrah never took it in the ass, he and Vivid have a lot of explaining to do.

For argument's sake, let’s say the tape is legit. Whoever shot it needs to be fired because the first rule of an anal scene is you get the penetration shot. No one bothered to do so. Another thing that bothers me is that this tape is advertised at 70 minutes. It runs 43 minutes.

How many more lies do you think we’ll discover in this charade?

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This looks as if there could've been some procreation going on, being overly optimistic:

And this looks as advertised:










Gene Ross is a retard.

now that's what i'm talking about when i ask for a tl;dr version. fucken excellent werk pipe. love it.

Ross' opinions are directly related to money. Who pays him, who owes him, and who is smart enough to not give him any.

Possibly.

I left out the last and best article by accident at first.

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Another shitty episode of Amber Lynn hugging it out over lies.
Dishonest whores. Gruesome shit.
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5/18/2013

Caller Tells Amber Lynn to Find Seka Movie Teenage Desires at XHamster; *See Lust at First Bite

--Gene Ross

Wind's blowing and people are breathing heavily. That was part of the problem of Amber Lynn’s show last week. This week her voice was cutting in and out, and she sounded like she was dialing in from Pakistan.

Randy a caller from Baltimore and a Seka fan said he found the Platinum Princess’ first scene in Teenage Desires from 1974. Of course, it’s on the free tube site, XHamster.com.

Lynn said she wanted a copy of it for Seka. Actually XHamster- did I mention a free tube site - has a whole catalogue of Seka movies. So basically Randy was leading Wells Fargo to John Dillinger’s home to find the stash.

*While you’re at it you can see the Hall of Fame cast including Seka in Lust at First Bite aka Dracula sucks at
[I removed this link.]

NY Joe, to the rescue, broke in and told Randy to ditch the fan which was causing the sound of hurricane winds. Joe also asked Lynn if she was calling in from a cellphone. She said she was. Duh.

This problem needs to be rectified pronto otherwise Lynn’s going to continue to sound like a show host who's being chloroformed on air.

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[a detour]







Rob Black likes to think in categories he had contact with while working for Vivid and on Steven Hirsch's cool-list, thus bankable names fit for the shelves of stores selling porn. Shelves. Not servers.

He wants jessica drake to be some spokesperson for his envisioned industry takeover. And fuck her. I understand, but he constantly tells anyone listening that, in his time, there weren't any "porn stars" doing scenes for Porno Dan for 500 bucks, gang bangs, getting choked out for Mason or groped up by John Stagliano.

Bankable names like jessica drake and Kayden Kross today or Amber Lynn a while ago don't share that much with whores like Rikki Six entering content production and doing stuff for, well, Porno Dan very soon after being an LA Direct Models whore.

So Black's nostalgic porn-isn't-what-it-used-to-be attitude today as uttered through his podcast is anachronistic and dishonest when he compares whores he had access to, high up on the meat platter ("talent pool"), quite some time ago to the fuck-the-right-guy-in-a-position-of-some-influence-to-get-ahead-and-in-front-of-less-engaged-whores market today.

Brooklyn Lee clearly only wanted to fuck her guy and couldn't get into the scenes anymore mentally, so there's a press release-like post by an account named after her porn likeness on a board full of advertisement and itself, ADT. That must be her. There couldn't be any other way.

Jessi Rogers had some legal affairs to take care of, seemingly testifying on the side of people who like to see porn regulated.
Her press release-like post about quitting porn was also done on ADT.

Hopefully they at least offer publicists some multi-logon option for all their clients.

Maybe whores with a degree of popularity approching that of some celebrities don't want to spend their time sitting a lot of fanlons to feel special after all.
Special in masses. Retards.


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This is a conversation between the Rob Black Twitter account and the Roger T. Pipe Twitter account.

Pipe's a reviewer who was held up high as the only one dishing it out on the Black podcast once. Pipe also wrote some Digital Playground scripts and setups once. He visited several sets, apparently. His reviews of Digital Playground titles were rather glowing. Pipe seems to know his way around.

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@RogerTPipe @fair4ca Choices have consequences? Comply or starve? Love u Rog but that's a completely asinine statement

@RealRobBlack @fair4ca Starve? Come on Rob, you can tone down the hyperbole with me. We can talk like grown ups.

@RogerTPipe @fair4ca If there was real choice I would support it, but there's not. You either work w/o a condom or u don't work

@RealRobBlack So the answer is to take away choice? That's not an argument I can support.

@RogerTPipe No I don't support the anti-choice assholes, but I don't support the BS of saying performers have "choice " either

@RealRobBlack The way 2 support choice is 2 encourage it in the marketplacenot give up control to those who want it is shut down.

@RogerTPipe I say a stricter testing regimen that includes a 2-3 day quarantine and charging a PREMIUM for non condom porn

@RealRobBlack Those are interesting ideas that do not turn over our freedom to those who hate us.

@RogerTPipe Yeah but we're not going to win the argument by saying fuck u we won't comply with the law. Gonna have to work together

@RealRobBlack Or fight an unfair law. You get a pass. You have done your share of fighting unfair laws.

@RogerTPipe I don't have the answers I wish I did but lying (on either side) to achieve the agenda doesn't help either

@RealRobBlack I know you aren't saying I'm lying so we agree to agree. But that FairCA site is full of lies. So I will continue to speak out

@RogerTPipe Yes & FSC lies when they say no HIV since 04 (Derrick Burts) and that performers don't want condoms. Most do but r scared to say

@RealRobBlack That's on them, not me. I don't need to defend positions I don't support.

@RogerTPipe Need a new coalition or union that doesn't just support certain segments of the biz and doesn't BS and includes dissent

@RealRobBlack I prefer that to turning over choice to Lubben/AHF/OSHA and others with an anti-porn agenda.

@RogerTPipe Agreed but they are who we have to deal with and when we LIE we're no better than they are

@RealRobBlack Which is why I don't support liars or their lies. Not all imperfect arguments are equal simply because they are imperfect.

@RogerTPipe OK now ur making my head hurt lol. For the record I'm not anti industry only anti BS

@RealRobBlack I know you aren't. You are anti- a LOT of things, but the industry is not one of them.

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This is a link to the emo issue mentioned above in a wall of text.
It's on Blog Talk Radio, a shitty streaming and podcasting site.

[emo edition - mostly about porn]


This here's a bit more interesting and thought out.

Rob Black seems to have a wireless headset and sounds better when roaming around.
There's room until "crystal clear," but then it'd get religious.
He can check if there's any lot lizardry going on in the neighborhood of his podcasting studio housed in the building of a strip club, for example.

The first part's about wrestling; the second part starts around 01:43:25, where he explains who does what with his Twitter account.

Tom Byron runs it and seems to have some fun with people at times.

Immediate hypocrisy bonus, actually:

Black points out how no-name bloggers and unknown wrestlers would never get any press from him unless he chose to do so and that people hiding behind keyboards and screen names would be meaningless. Probably, but amusing at times.

Tom Byron does some online pretense when acting as Rob Black, which would be the porn name of someone in a business where people hide behind screen names.
And Tom Byron as a name...

Black says the porn world and more listens to Black, so here you are.

The rest of the podcast's how the others should've been.
This is rather on point and with some structure. [I know.]

[XPW/porn edition]