What does blow my mind is the ease of which people seem to want to give up so much and allow government control and intrusion into our lives so insidiously. Guess there's no point arguing about that either.

You really don't believe that there are tons of guys who fantasize about using their guns to shoot Obama's evil government who couldn't last 2 hours in a real militia and have an unrealistic fantasy about what it would be like?

OK, what the hell, let's actually discuss gun control.

Since the second amendment expressly stresses the importance and role of regulation as the pre-requisite to gun ownership, shouldn't the laws be tougher?

I'm thinking along the lines of having to prove your competence and ability after you prove your suitability (i.e. mental health, criminal record, etc).

I don't think the type of gun or size of the ammo clip should be the issue, rather it should be about the ability of the individual (and prospective future militia member). I don't think any wack job should be allowed to be able to carry a deadly weapon. Nor should an elderly person with dementia who can't recognize family members from strangers. Nor should a person with Parkinson's Disease be allowed to own a gun unless they can hit the bulls eye and not the bystanders. Not only that, let's take it a step further. I think people should be required to show competence not just a driver's license. Even if a person is intelligent, mentally and physically sound, has no criminal record, is a pillar of the community, a nice guy, and a life time member of the NRA, they should be denied the ability to own a gun if they can't demonstrate good gun safety and the ability to shoot competently.

I would also propose making classifications of weapon types and giving certifications for the ability to own those weapon types.

That is real gun control. The kind of gun control our Constitution demands.

You really don't believe that there are tons of guys who fantasize about using their guns to shoot Obama's evil government who couldn't last 2 hours in a real militia and have an unrealistic fantasy about what it would be like?