The Connecticut Shooting thread has turned into a gun control thing. I'm usually up for a good thread derailment, but over the backdrop of those dead people is a little too skeevy for my taste.

I'm respectfully asking the group to not post Gun Control stuff, and the venom that comes with it, on the Conn. Shooting thread and to post it here.

I get that what happened in Conn. has been the catalyst for the new "debate", but I just think that we're talking two different stories at this point.

fuck gun control

fire that message off to barry0 will ya?.

^ Yeah, and tell that obnoxious windbag Bloomberg, too. He was the first to open his big mouth whining about gun control before the smoke had even cleared in CT.
Tomorrow the clown in chief will shamelessly parade out children as a prop to push the gun control laws his cronies on the left have been wanting for years. Can't let a tragedy go to waste.

just for fun lets hear what ted has to say...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=&v=soH2S9ZHeWE#!

And he's doing a great job of it.

Wouldn't help. Here's why: No one wants crazies to have guns. We can all agree...except maybe fbf. Unfortunately, the President and his fans see anyone who owns a gun as automatically crazy. I own a gun. Ipso factsy, that makes me crazy. Writing him would not help.

If we could only find someone, maybe a daughter pimping mother, who already has a good penpal relationship with the King. Someone like that would have all sorts of credibility.

The highlights I've heard of his proposals seem to be much ado about nothing. "Dialogues" and enforcing existing laws. He's such a lightweight.

Imagine this theoretical daughter pimping mother who has a good relationship with King Barry owning a gun. She'd probably shoot herself by accident within a day of buying it.

I know she packed a knife. She was clutching it tightly to her chest...like she would her daughter's paycheck...when the Jewish Porn Valley hit team came to take her out for speaking her mind. Theoretically, of course.

That knife was probably stolen from an IHOP.

I picture the theoretical person having a gun akin to a Daffy Duck cartoon. The person would be holding the gun starring down the barrel trying to figure out why the evil people at McDonalds don't serve the McRib year round and why Ronald McDonald doesn't answer their emails because they're a part of the conspiracy and then BOOM.

Hypocite, too

Gaddafi was in favor of reinstating the gold standard, shouldn't you Illuminati tinfoil hats faggots be defending him a a hero who was taken out by the NWO and creature from jekyll Island? Go back to playing with GIJoe's you fucking Hydrocephalic troglodyt.

I'm not in love with the NRA ad. Sausage and Bulimia are targets and should have protection. It comes with their dad's job, as it should.

I liked the NRA ad. Barry didn't you say you used to have a FFL in the past?

Yeah. In the old days when they were $15 for three years. It was for keeping my friends in cheap guns...and doing some occasional selling. It expired maybe a year after the Brady Bill went through.

I've talked for a year or so about getting one again. It's more expensive..$200...and you need a letter from the Sheriff OKing it. A couple of other hoops to jump through, but nothing insurmountable.

Obama, Cuomo and Bloomberg are the new 3 Stooges or is that the new Hitler, Mussolini and Tojo ? I gave Obama the benefit of the doubt for a long time. No more. He's evil ! Plain and simple.

What a fucking bunch of idiocy thunk up by a bunch of fucking idiots !!!!

Bloomberg sounds like a full blown retard.

How retarded do you have to be to vote him in ?

You missed the point. Why is the monkey in the White House OK with armed guards protecting his nigglets while they are at school, but against armed guards at other schools?

His little future felons are no more important than little Susie or little Billy

not a shot at you but this gun thing should be the perfect counter to the Obama cult of personality wave. rednecks and "patriots" vs housewives and minorities.

I believe when the 11 armed guards are mentioned about the school they go to, it's not counting the Secret Service.

Have you read a word he wrote? Naked Lunch and Junkie aren't generally stocked in the walmart book rack next to harry potter and 50 shades of grey.

Burroughs was a trust-fund kid who got hooked on junk, shot his wife, fucked kids in Morocco and joined Scientology. Love his books but not exactly someone to take life lessons from.

Interesting, technically.

smutpov probably learned about Burroughs from Kurt Cobain or the Just One Fix video.

All hyperbole aside and I also think Obama sucks mountains of donkey dicks for a multitude of reasons but is this honestly really what you believe? This is your actual perception of reality? Honest to fucking christ. Go fucking kill your self you senile old fucking idiot.

Many politicians and high powered executives send their kids to schools with guards. It isn't to protect from random loons, it is to protect from kidnapping for ransom. I know people that went to school in unmarked, blacked out vans w/ guards, and that was in the 80's.

Fat Bloody Fingers- can't argue with stupid fucks like you so I won't . Fuck you ! You should be able to actually perceive that.

Only a Nirvana or Ministry fan would say that.




Hey fuckface, Yeah, I've read a few of his books, but overall, Burroughs was too queer for me. Probably not you.
I wouldn't shop at Wal-Mart if my life depended on it, though you must shop there like white trash if you know what books they sell. Who'd have guessed a self loathing misanthrope like yourself who listens to shitty black metal would be defending the status quo unless you're just overplaying your online schtick like you usually do. Stupid is as stupid does I guess.

There's the rub. I'm sure the guards beyond the SS are a selling point to prospective customers, er, students. Even with all that, a maniac on a suicide mission and some planning could still do a fuckton of damage.

If we're seriously talking about really protecting schools, we need to look at jail/ prison level security. Walls, razor wire, armed guards (plural), sally- ports for dropping off and picking up. The "visitor" sticker I had to wear the other day (that I didn't have to wear 6 weeks ago) will stop no one with bad intentions.

complaining about burroughs being "too much of a fag" seems par course for you right wing idiots. I don't really listen to much black metal because I find a lot of it to be boring shit. It should be fairly obvious I'm much more into grindcore and noise or even gay metalcore bands that most blackmetal.

I'm pretty much against gun control. I'd like to say the blame goes to the mentally ill individuals who committed the crimes, I know it's a crazy idea. It's the american psychology and development that is more to blame. Even a pro gun person needs to really take a hard look at statistics that point to someone being 20 times more likely to shoot themselves or a loved one than in any actual self defense/robbery situation. And there is something like a staggering 80 guns per human being in The United States. People are completely fucking diluted if they think the right wing actually gives a flying fuck about citizens being able to keep arms beyond it being a pandering to their voting block......Untreated mental illness seems to be the number one problem, but of course in your ultra capitalist, suck it up, walk it off, be a man, and become a homeless schizophrenic person society we've developed they'll always be people in clock towers with scopes and high powered riffles. The left is being equally moronic and pandering "assult weapon" is a completely contrived bullshit term, what do you define it as a shape a magazine capacity? Someone snipping people with a bolt action .306 is more dangerous and horrific than someone crazy faggot spraying around their shitty carbine.

It was Leftist do- gooders that emptied the mental institutions in the 70s and made it near impossible to commit someone against their will. Short memories, we have.

I prefer the term "black gun" to "assault weapon". The local paper did a little dialog box of gun definitions a week or so ago...well...their definitions. Basically, an assault weapon can fire one bullet or more with one press of the trigger. An automatic is the same as a semi- automatic...both fire one bullet then with each trigger pull and reload automatically. I love it when people who know nothing about the subject feel they need to mold opinion.

It all depends on who's pulling the trigger. I'm a terrible long range shooter. I'd be worthless in a clocktower.

Institutionalizing people against their will is a whole other ball of slippery slope wax argument that I don't really want to get into right now.. I would assume you wouldn't want the evil gubmint decided who they deem mentally unfit, why, nancy pelosi might just decided to throw god fearing good christians in nut houses for voting against obama!....I'm much more concerned with the gigantic lack of mental health care in this country, maybe if we had socizilized medicine schizoprenics could get the meds they need cheaply but there's really no profit in helping wackjobs....a swiss pall of mine made the point that they have just as many guns in their country but people don't wake up paranoid everyday that they are going to be homeless next month digging in the garbage for something to eat and maybe that has something to do with the way things work in america. The sniper comment was more a reference to the rightwings fetishistic obsession with military might/ the stoic solider, when it's the same system that creates people like Charles Whitman long before Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold where an itch in their daddies ball bags.

Did you go to school in Mexico or Colombia? The last kid of a big shot to get kidnapped in the U.S. was Patty Hearst.

Douchebag Newspaper back peddles and "takes down" gun map three days after a law was passed in NY protecting gun owners privacy. Stupid cunt publisher claims it's not because of the law but that they made their point.

Another story about it getting pulled

A snippet:

The biggest qualm I have with mental health care lies in the pharmaceutical/doctor relationship. People can't afford shrinks so they go to their regular practitioner and tell them they're depressed. Doctors, seeing dollar signs, would rather sell someone on a quick script for whatever anti-depressant is all over their posters, pens, and notepads than actually diagnose the problem, set up a therapy plan, and let a Psychiatrist that they know the patient can't afford take care of it. They know exactly what their doing. They'll hand you a plastic bag full of samples and then schedule you for a three week check up to see if they sucessfully pushed a drug off on you.

I disagree on the Whitman thing. I don't know the exact details, but he did have a sizable brain tumor in an area that controls not whacking the family and bystanders. Neither of us, or anyone, really knows tho.

I will say that your thing about being worried about their next paycheck didn't seem to be a concern for the mass shooters of the last several years. Lanza's job was being nuts. Same with the Colorado shooter, altho I think he may have had a real job of some sort. Kleobold, Harris, the VT shooter were all students, altho I think Kliebold and Harris (or maybe just one of them...I honestly don't remember) had typical high school kid jobs. The guy who shot up the Amish school was an electrician...or something like that. The kids in Oregon and Arkansas that shot up their schools were all students. Going further back to when Post Office shooters were the big rage, all the ones who went postal worked for the Post Office. Government gig, impossible to get fired from. Not a comprehensive list, by any means, but more comprehensive than just throwing out fear of losing a job setting people on suicide missions.

I think suggesting that Pelosi will have people committed because they didn't vote for Obama brings nothing to the discussion. I do find it interesting that you assume the Fed should/ would be in charge of deciding who gets committed and who doesn't. It's very slippery slope when a crat 3000 miles away makes decisions like that. But that isn't how it was in the 50s and 60s. It was done at a local level. Make no mistake, I have no illusion that deciding someone needs to be committed is anything other than grim business. It should be grim. It's a really huge decision and should be taken seriously. I don't trust the Federal gov with that role, but I do trust the local health authorities, who live here, to it. At least to a point.

I understand that forcibly committing people might not be a subject you want to "talk about right now", but I'm not sure we have that luxury. Putting our heads in the sand over the details is what has led us to this point.

I'm with you about the mental health system being inadequate. The problem is that being schizophrenic isn't the same as having a cyst. It takes more than easier access to meds to treat someone with schizophrenia, or any other mental illness. Easier access to meds doesn't mean that people will take them. Through our jobs my girl and I both come into contact with a lot of mentally ill people. When they decide to take themselves off their meds, and they do, it's a pretty hard thing to watch.

As for socialized medicine across the board as a fix for the mental health system, is that really going to be effective? Punish everyone for the inadequacies of a small part of the health care system? Maybe it would be easier to improve the mental health system first rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Make it easier to qualify for disability because of mental illness. Let the protections, such as easier access to treatment, of a disability qualification kick in.

The bigger picture, at least for me, is how the mentally ill are treated in general. Beyond whackjobs shooting up schools. The way we allow the damaged around us suffer needlessly is a fucking crime. Especially in a society that deep down knows better.

Joe Biden lies again, this time about being near Amish schoolhouse shooting in '06



Note the golf pro's name.

I'm sorry, but this reminds me: Jerky? Did they ship the Korean Midget, yet? You oughta have 'em throw in some of this stuff.

They didn't ship Donkey's wife yet, he wasn't done beating her.

He's going to rival Clapton for the title "slowhand," at this rate.

In related news, the competition was stiff at this weekends 2013 Darwin Award Semi Finals. Remarkably, none of the competitors became stiffs themselves.

You'd be singing a different tune if it was black dudes doing the shooting.

White people can be crazy as fuck and no one will ever think ..."Maybe it's something about the white mind?" Brothers fuck up and suddenly its due to our innate violent nature.

Duh

Tri- regardless of the color of skin it has absolutely nothing to do with the weapon. It's not the jawbone of the ass ; it's the ass wielding it.

That's bullshit and you know it. In fairness, though, the post immediately after yours is also bullshit and that poster knows it as well.

Oh, wait, it's XPT. Carry on, the both of youse.

How in the fuck is the post after his bullshit ? Are you that fuking stupid?