I don't know, I think it would probably seem like a more natural reaction if it was expressed honestly and not couched in political talk radio sound bites. I was at work during the shooting and surrounded by mostly younger college educated women (i.e. Obama voters) and there was a lot of speculation about motive, and a lot of sadness about the loss of life. Nobody mentioned anything about guns or gun control or politics or how to tie the President into the tragedy.

We had a thread about some other nutcase who killed a bunch of people on here a while back and had a much more "natural" discussion about what was wrong with the gunman, why did it happen, etc. There may have been a few comments by the gun nuts spazzing out, but I don't remember them if there were.

My response was about how unusual it was that there was only a single post like the one I responded to. I get threads being derailed and all, but it really was the only single post of its kind. Like I said above, it was my observation about how unusual it seemed that there was only a single post in the whole thread that took that position. First that struck me as odd, then sad, then funny.

As far as the crazies posting responses on mainstream websites: Maybe I'm being naïve, and I certainly don't read many posts made by Billy Bob the local grand wizard and head scrotum licker of the tea baggers if I can help it, but I suspect many of the more unusual posts are probably just teenaged boys trying to be outrageous or trolling people. Maybe I'm wrong.

I keep hearing person after person at work here talking about how the prez "aint taking my goddamn guns", and I think it's funny because I haven't heard anyone of any importance talk about gun confiscation. I've heard it out of housewives and extreme-left talkin heads, but no one really important. It's like people just enjoy being angry. Nobodies looking at this issue and seeing the obvious disconnect between somebody that shoots kids and somebody that does anything in or around that field of relatability. I just don't see the connection between video gamers, movie watchers, gun owners, and people that fucking shoot kids. It just seems to be an endless cycle of feeding on negativity and looking for an excuse to beat one's chest.

Look at you, Backdoorman. You seem to be a rational guy who likes to relax, watch vintage whores, spend time with ham radios and the pets and whatnot. Nothing that's going on is going to change any of that. It's like you've lost your anger and jump the gun on anything that can bring back that spark. Just enjoy the time you have here, quit watching FOX, and stop being so angry about an issue that comes up everytime some idiot shoots a lot of innocent people.

I'll stop.

NY Assemblyman Steve McLaughlin is asked to keep quiet a proposal by Democrats to confiscate guns:





Here is the list he mentioned:

1. Confiscation of “assault weapons"
2. Confiscation o ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder’s information to be replaced to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as “assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons

I think confiscation is a strawman for both sides. It's like rounding up all the illegals and sending them home. Logistically, it would be a pretty impossible task.

Of course total confiscation is impossible, the criminal element will always be able to get a gun on the black market, but let's not pretend that there aren't important people talking about confiscation. It's just that the left learned their lesson from the consequences of passing the Brady Bill and most will no longer talk about it in front of a camera.

Don't disagree for a second there aren't. I'm talking about the actual doing it. Even taking the criminal element out, we're talking about going door to door. That's pretty daunting. Then throw in people who filled out a 4473, but don't have the gun anymore...for whatever reason. My filled out 4473s were destroyed after 5 years as the law allowed. Right there is 100+ guns...most of them black guns...that the ownership trail ends with me.

It's impossible and I think we waste too much energy worrying about it. There are bigger threats to gun rights than full out confiscation.

Items 9 through 15 (excepting 14) are nothing more than pure revenue grabs for the state government.

Oh hell no they won't be able to track old, un-background checked firearm purchases, but what they're are doing now isn't really about the now or even the near future. This is just the ground work. another baby step down the slippery slope of gun control. If you could go back in time and tell me in 1983 that thirty years later there would be a socialist as POTUS, I would have called you crazy. Thirty years from now there could easily be a firearm confiscation. Especially if they have your DL number, social security number, and everything else that will go on a background check with every sale. Although I don't believe it will be an active confiscation. All the government services like healthcare, welfare, disability, student loans, etc. that progressives like to addict people to can be used as a nice little lever.

The confiscation thing is just an add on. If your separated from a lunatic, and she gets a restraining order on you, when they come to round up your weapons, if there is an assault rifle, they will charge you for not turning it in, and proclaim that the law is working.

From my experiences, your average local, state, county and federal officers couldn't tell a hi-cap mag from a slap mag.

I'm just imagining The gubment going door to door asking for firearms. How would this be done? Forgive me if I'm being blissfully ignorant about all of this horseshit.

The only way around here would be in a hail of bullets !

It would probably be a combination of two things, and both would be a hideous monster implemented at the state level.

1) A registry of all firearms in private hands.

2) A buyback program.

"Hideous" in terms of the expense involved in crafting the legislation, implementing and maintaining the registries, and of course "buying back" the firearms that are deemed inappropriate.

Germy Steal: I am not crazy

Seems Germy was not alone:


HERNDON, Va. (AP) -- Police in northern Virginia have arrested a man accused of stealing memorial signs for victims of the shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Connecticut.

Authorities say 28-year-old Andrew Truelove was motivated by a belief that the Sandy Hook shootings were a hoax.

Herndon police say one sign was stolen from Mystic, Connecticut, and the other was stolen from a playground in Mantoloking, New Jersey. They were both dedicated to Chase Kowalski and Grace McDonnell, two of the 20 first-graders killed in the 2012 massacre.

Police said Friday that Truelove was arrested at a home in Herndon where he was renting a room, and charged with possession of stolen property, with charges pending in the other states.

An attorney representing Truelove in a separate case did not immediately return a message.

Fortunately, fucktards like Germy and his Truelove have such a "Look-at-meeeee" complex they practically catch themselves:







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