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In these situations everyone looks to point a finger. There has to be something to blame. Side effects of anti-psychotics. Guns. Violent video games. Bullying. Violent TV shows and movies. The only blame lies in the damaged brain of the shooter. Whether he was born broken, or he became broken growing up, he obviously couldn't cope in the world and it is good for us and him that he is dead.
There are thousands just as damaged, walking among us that are ticking time bombs. Whether they wind up shooting up a school, ball peen hammer their wife and children, put their head in an oven, wanna see the insides of a dead hooker, or numb themselves with narcotics and just become a leech on society, there is nothing that can be done.
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I don't watch fucking TV at all. It's me and my computer. Go ahead. Don't watch TV for abt two years and you'll see how absurd it is. It's total pablum.
Try reading a newspaper or a book even once in a while. I know hav2cit thinks reading is for fags and all but you might learn something once in a while, instead of the paranoid conspiracy bullshit that is the internet's stock and trade.
@fbf Is the pic from 4chan Klebold/ Harris or some shopped thing?
@ivor Absolutely true on the dad thing. I can't even imagine pulling shit while my dad was around. The problem is that we're talking about a rage that overwhelms any fear you have of anything. Put a different way, I can't imagine pulling a knife on my mom...or anyone...short of a threat to me and mine. I wouldn't do it because it's not in me.
The bourgeoisie comment was intended to emphasize that the shooter came from a family in the VERY upper strata of American society. The GOPers like to engage in sociological exercises about makers and takers. The shooter's father may be a "maker" (or may not but that is an entirely different issue), but the son is one of worst "takers" to ever slither across this planer, worse than a million food stamp recipients.
On the other issue, i had a turbulent drug and alcohol filled adolescence but also never suffered from that type of rage. Has I been rage-plagued though I still might have been able to exercise control since facing the old man after he heard that I threatened to knife my mother would have been unthinkable. Taking a beating has always been something to be avoided, so I would have been forced to take measures to put a substantial distance between myself and home.
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
In these situations everyone looks to point a finger. There has to be something to blame. Side effects of anti-psychotics. Guns. Violent video games. Bullying. Violent TV shows and movies. The only blame lies in the damaged brain of the shooter. Whether he was born broken, or he became broken growing up, he obviously couldn't cope in the world and it is good for us and him that he is dead.
There are thousands just as damaged, walking among us that are ticking time bombs. Whether they wind up shooting up a school, ball peen hammer their wife and children, put their head in an oven, wanna see the insides of a dead hooker, or numb themselves with narcotics and just become a leech on society, there is nothing that can be done.
Or they do nothing. I believe that's probably the majority. Or they're good at the hustle and go through life without anyone knowing what they're up to.
It's naive and intellectually lazy to talk about "making sure it never happens again". Short of living in a bubble, life is a dice roll. Bad shit happens. Bad people do bad shit. No matter what we do, one thing is certain. It will happen again.
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I think the first random mass murder I remember was the McDonalds shooting in California in the mid 80s.
Can we swerve this into a legalize weed campaign? Cause dudes between 15 and 25 that get high are too lazy to plan out shootings.
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The bourgeoisie comment was intended to emphasize that the shooter came from a family in the VERY upper strata of American society. The GOPers like to engage in sociological exercises about makers and takers. The shooter's father may be a "maker" (or may not but that is an entirely different issue), but the son is one of worst "takers" to ever slither across this planer, worse than a million food stamp recipients.
You're absolutely right. Because the son was an insane murderer, let's tax the father.
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Originally Posted By: ivorenginedriver
Originally Posted By: Barry the Pirate
@fbf Is the pic from 4chan Klebold/ Harris or some shopped thing?
@ivor Absolutely true on the dad thing. I can't even imagine pulling shit while my dad was around. The problem is that we're talking about a rage that overwhelms any fear you have of anything. Put a different way, I can't imagine pulling a knife on my mom...or anyone...short of a threat to me and mine. I wouldn't do it because it's not in me.
The bourgeoisie comment was intended to emphasize that the shooter came from a family in the VERY upper strata of American society. The GOPers like to engage in sociological exercises about makers and takers. The shooter's father may be a "maker" (or may not but that is an entirely different issue), but the son is one of worst "takers" to ever slither across this planer, worse than a million food stamp recipients.
I kinda thought that's where you were headed, altho I honestly hoped for better.
I'm going to go way out on a limb here, but here goes. Yeah, this guy was a dirtbag and he did a really really horrible thing. Worse than a million food stamp recipients? The amount of damage culturally, to themselves, to their neighborhoods, to their families, to their children, to the children of their children that the average lifelong, generational food stamp recipients is beyond comprehension. But I guess it's like the saying goes: 26 dead is horrible. Millions of destroyed lives is a statistic. Children living in filth, abused, raped, killed slowly over a period of years. Killing each other over turf. Pumping out generation after generation of cold, heartless soulless animals. This Lanza kid was pretty horrible because what he did happened in a matter of minutes, and because what he did is an uncommon thing. Food stamp recipients kill each other, each other's kids, their own kids, themselves in huge numbers every single day, 365 days a year.
Before you caring folks start wetting yourselves, I'm not for a second saying this applies to every food stamp recipient. And I'm not saying for a second this Lanza kid is anything short of a monster. It's hard to totally flesh out without seeming like a monster. But at some point we need some perspective.
As an aside, one of the outlying towns had a ruckus with a parent attacking students in school, maybe yesterday. No real details, other than the school didn't call the cops. What the fuck? I'll post a link tomorrow if I can find one.
No matter what you think the GOP says, mentally fucked up knows no politics and there's no amount of money that cures it or makes it go away. Believe me, if I could write a check and it would make me see something other than a piece of shit in the mirror, I'd have done it years ago.
I think we had the same dad. He was a late 1940s to mid 60s parent. No real beatings, but I feared him until the day he died. Actually, I probably still do.
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It's because nobody these days disciplines their kids. As we used to say in ATL: Your mama didn't raise you right. Or as a black buddy once said to me: Shit, if you ain't been whipped with a 'stention cord, you don't know right from wrong.
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Much like you leftists don't believe a black person who votes Republican is actually a black person.
Despite admittedly getting all your news from the interwebs you still can't see beyond the alcoholic haze you live under, I don't give a shit about Republicans or who a black person votes for in the US. Never said anything about it either.
I know your incoherent rage against 'leftists' and 'socialists' is like most political extremism really about your Mommy and Daddy issues (they never got you did they?) and why you drink too much and diddle your nieces Have2 but try and make your rants in actual response to something someone says instead of in response to the voices in your head telling you to eat a gun (but then how many days until someone would find your shitty corpse rotting all by its lonesome?).
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Originally Posted By: Claude Goddard
Originally Posted By: have2cit
Much like you leftists don't believe a black person who votes Republican is actually a black person.
Despite admittedly getting all your news from the interwebs you still can't see beyond the alcoholic haze you live under, I don't give a shit about Republicans or who a black person votes for in the US. Never said anything about it either.
I know your incoherent rage against 'leftists' and 'socialists' is like most political extremism really about your Mommy and Daddy issues (they never got you did they?) and why you drink too much and diddle your nieces Have2 but try and make your rants in actual response to something someone says instead of in response to the voices in your head telling you to eat a gun (but then how many days until someone would find your shitty corpse rotting all by its lonesome?).
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Originally Posted By: Claude Goddard
Despite admittedly getting all your news from the interwebs you still can't see beyond the alcoholic haze you live under, I don't give a shit about Republicans or who a black person votes for in the US. Never said anything about it either.
I know your incoherent rage against 'leftists' and 'socialists' is like most political extremism really about your Mommy and Daddy issues (they never got you did they?) and why you drink too much and diddle your nieces Have2 but try and make your rants in actual response to something someone says instead of in response to the voices in your head telling you to eat a gun (but then how many days until someone would find your shitty corpse rotting all by its lonesome?).
I've struck a nerve. Good, but not surprising considering most of your kind have a skin thickness equal to tissue paper. Much like you enjoy "mistakenly" picking up trannies in bars only to use drunkenness the next morning as your plausible deniability, your attempt to explain away your efitist liberal identity politics, by using the nationalist stawman, is just as transparent and self deluding. Socialism/progressivism/liberalism/environmentalism is an international movement and identity politics is one of its cornerstones.
You've taken what was a simply stated observation about your highly visible socialist tendencies and Alinskied it into an extremist drunken rant. Which actually does make a weird sort of sense considering you believe, as a liberal, that all political process should stem from feelings and emotional response rather than facts, logic, and critical thought. I thank you for being so blatantly predictable and for the full extent of your confident ignorance. It makes this so easy.
The bourgeoisie comment was intended to emphasize that the shooter came from a family in the VERY upper strata of American society. The GOPers like to engage in sociological exercises about makers and takers. The shooter's father may be a "maker" (or may not but that is an entirely different issue), but the son is one of worst "takers" to ever slither across this planer, worse than a million food stamp recipients.
You're absolutely right. Because the son was an insane murderer, let's tax the father.
President Obama wants to raise the top marginal rate from 35% to 37%.. The Lanza situation tells me that the very rich can afford to pay a bit more in taxes. Just a bit. Not even as much as they paid in the 90s. Perhaps the next Mama Lanza may have to leave one firearm off her arsenal wish list. Oh, the horror. the horror.
Socialism/progressivism/liberalism/environmentalism is an international movement and identity politics is one of its cornerstones.
I'm not an environmentalist, another assumption down the shitter for you. 'Identity politics' are hardly a cornerstone of the left outside of North America, another clueless statement. Outside the US liberal means moderate or even right of centre but you'd have to travel somewhere beside Mexico to get drunk and fuck whores to know that. Remember what the Bad News Bears taught us about assuming things.
And talk about predictable: I knew as soon as I mentioned you in that post to Meat you'd pop up and did it with that intention, you must search for your name on XPT, like an attention-starved PW.
Every politically hackyned phrase you spew reveals how clueless and frustrated you really are, you use pre-packaged slogans supplied to you by others from the paranoid corners of the internet so you don't have to think for yourself. My guess would be that you were raised as an unthinking leftie and have now flipped to the other side and become an unthinking right-wing blowhard who bores everyone at the bar with his bullshit about niggers and immigrants.
Some one takes a poke at you and you're instantly off on a political tangent, it's part of your victim complex (aka fuckin' liberals), no doubt fuelled by your inability to take responsibility for your out-of-control drinking and temper with family members.
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This is the one you want, right? You sure you don't want to change this again before I respond? Alright then, here we go.
Originally Posted By: Claude Goddard
I'm not an environmentalist, another assumption down the shitter for you. 'Identity politics' are hardly a cornerstone of the left outside of North America, another clueless statement. Outside the US liberal means moderate or even right of centre but you'd have to travel somewhere beside Mexico to get drunk and fuck whores to know that. Remember what the Bad News Bears taught us about assuming things.
And talk about predictable: I knew as soon as I mentioned you in that post to Meat you'd pop up and did it with that intention, you must search for your name on XPT, like an attention-starved PW.
Every politically hackyned phrase you spew reveals how clueless and frustrated you really are, you use pre-packaged slogans supplied to you by others from the paranoid corners of the internet so you don't have to think for yourself. My guess would be that you were raised as an unthinking leftie and have now flipped to the other side and become an unthinking right-wing blowhard who bores everyone at the bar with his bullshit about niggers and immigrants.
Some one takes a poke at you and you're instantly off on a political tangent, it's part of your victim complex (aka fuckin' liberals), no doubt fuelled by your inability to take responsibility for your out-of-control drinking and temper with family members.
They're all socialists and I don't break you people down in to groups smaller than that. No need. Sure you knew just what I'd do, just like you know what music, movies, and books are acceptable for everyone to consume. Just like you know that anyone that does not agree with your geopolitical views 100% have to be uniformed, uneducated, and just plain wrong.
You may think the term confident ignorance is just some hackneyed label found in an obscure corner of the internet, but I could not honestly find a better or more accurate description for you. I don't believe anyone else could either.
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Originally Posted By: ivorenginedriver
[quote]The Lanza situation tells me that the very rich can afford to pay a bit more in taxes.
Is this seriously how you want the game to be played? To identify the larger group by the wrongdoing of a single outlier? Not even a member of the larger group, but the deranged child of a member of the larger group. And by this you're somehow able to mindread what people can and can't afford?
You understand that means the rules go both ways, yes? The worst excesses of the worst Welfare Queen paints the entire group. I'll be happy to play, but make no mistake, you've made the rule.
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Nice job mangling the quote Barry. You are an intelligent man and know that taken in full the quote essentially argued that the Mama Lanza's "conspicuous consumption" of firearms justify a slightly higher rate of income taxation. I stand by that. We are both wandering off topic here. I read an article by a barber who cut Adam Lanza's hair and Mama Lanza apparently directed the barber on exactly how to cut young Adam's hair. I hate to speak ill of the dead, but she helped to create the monster that killed her and all of those children.
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Originally Posted By: ivorenginedriver
Nice job mangling the quote Barry. You are an intelligent man and know that taken in full the quote essentially argued that the Mama Lanza's "conspicuous consumption" of firearms justify a slightly higher rate of income taxation. I stand by that. We are both wandering off topic here. I read an article by a barber who cut Adam Lanza's hair and Mama Lanza apparently directed the barber on exactly how to cut young Adam's hair. I hate to speak ill of the dead, but she helped to create the monster that killed her and all of those children.
OK. So put into context, the fact that she had more guns than you approve of means the rich, as a whole, can afford to pay higher taxes. Yes, that's a huge difference. I'm glad that we have arbiters of consumption to judge folk's purchases. Maybe instead of armed guards at schools, we should have armed guards at shops to make sure people buy the right things in approved quantities. Hell, government money'll pay for it, so it's free.
Haircuts now? She may have helped create him. She may not have. Nature vs. nurture. No one knows, unless they have a hard on about rich folks. Just say what you're wanting to. She sort of had it coming. Didn't she? Rich, according to your standards...although you have no idea how much money the family made. Guns. Haircuts. Parenting not up to your standards. Politics you disagree with...probably. I bet they had a double oven. Who needs that? Probably had a bigger bathtub than they needed. Fuckin rich bitch. She deserved it.
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Originally Posted By: J.B.
Shouldn't a Maoist bloviate before a Chinese flag, rather than a Soviet flag?
The Chinese used the same type of symbology. Either way I'm pretty sure the references to Mao and the soviet union are more tongue and cheek to piss off stars n bars assholes...In the video he does refer to the soviet union as being a permanent war economy based system (like the united states) as to why it failed. Not exactly a glowing endorsement.
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blowhard who bores everyone at the bar with his bullshit about niggers and immigrants.
I am now under the belief that Claude Goddard is a magical internet wizard. Either that or the word filters are gone.
I think the addition of the letter 's' making it plural lets that word slip through the filters.
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I love how the Maoist Rebel News guy focuses on the juridical aspect. What he is saying is probably factually accurate, but he misses the forest for his obsession with his statistical trees. The millions of Ukrainian and Russian peasants who perished during the Holomodor were never sentenced to death. They just died from starvation, being shot by the Red Army or OGPU secret police, or were worked to death in Siberia without ANY legal process. This Maoist Rebel News guy is a cretin, pure and simple.
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Originally Posted By: ivorenginedriver
I love how the Maoist Rebel News guy focuses on the juridical aspect. What he is saying is probably factually accurate, but he misses the forest for his obsession with his statistical trees. The millions of Ukrainian and Russian peasants who perished during the Holomodor were never sentenced to death. They just died from starvation, being shot by the Red Army or OGPU secret police, or were worked to death in Siberia without ANY legal process. This Maoist Rebel News guy is a cretin, pure and simple.
ha! funny you would say that as he has a video talking about how the actual death toll in the korean war is probably more like 10 million due to external causes vs the commonly sited 2.5 million counted only as dead people killed with bullets.......not to mention the literal hundreds of millions of deaths caused by the united states actions and policies since it's creation.......also poses the questioning of the right wing/libertarian/tea party mindset that the government is always lying to you....unless it's talking about communism then it's completely accurate and quotes completely accurate death toles.
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Originally Posted By: ivorenginedriver
I love how the Maoist Rebel News guy focuses on the juridical aspect. What he is saying is probably factually accurate, but he misses the forest for his obsession with his statistical trees. The millions of Ukrainian and Russian peasants who perished during the Holomodor were never sentenced to death. They just died from starvation, being shot by the Red Army or OGPU secret police, or were worked to death in Siberia without ANY legal process. This Maoist Rebel News guy is a cretin, pure and simple.
I haven't watched it mainly because the the initial image looks like a douche. The whole thing just smacks of being a joke.
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Take my word for it, that guy is a clown. If I had my way he would be sentenced to be smothered to death by Claudia Marie's fake tits. Planet Earth would be a better place if that jerk were no longer here.
Tens of thousands of people have signed a petition calling for British CNN host Piers Morgan to be deported from the U.S. over his gun control views.
Morgan has taken an aggressive stand for tighter U.S. gun laws in the wake of the Newtown, Connecticut, school shooting. Last week, he called a gun advocate appearing on his "Piers Morgan Tonight" show an "unbelievably stupid man."
Now, gun rights activists are fighting back. A petition created Dec. 21 on the White House e-petition website by a user in Texas accuses Morgan of engaging in a "hostile attack against the U.S. Constitution" by targeting the Second Amendment. It demands he be deported immediately for "exploiting his position as a national network television host to stage attacks against the rights of American citizens."
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If I was one of those dots, I'd report my guns and other belongings stolen, then sue the newspaper.
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I'd bet most of those permit holders are cops or retired cops. Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if NY, being the shithole it is, would prohibit retired cops from carrying like they do in Chicago.
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