really?. I have him as a victim.
- He keeps his zombie daughter as a pet because he can't let go and fully deal with the concept of loss and accept the world for what it is. Same with the aquarium.

- Every time Michonne shows up he gets rocked.

- He's the "governor" but wasn't getting any pussy until Andrea showed up and he had to drop the act and go "Phillip" to get some. weak!

- He used the one armed guy as a scapegoat because Rick and crew walked into their town and busted skulls. Mind you Rick is still all sorts of fucked up but not on the level of weak ass Phillip.

the dudes a poor excuse for a villain. Shane and Carols husband were far more sinister.

The banality of evil. Sinister isn't a look, it's a vibe. I didn't see Carol's husband as sinister. I saw him as a bitch who would back down the second another man told him in no uncertain terms that the world had changed and the rest of the group won't be put in danger because he's punching his Nazi loving wife. And that the group is more important than one person. That everyone is disposable. And he's at the top of the list.

The Gov is charisma. A salesman or a sociopath. Think the General in the Postman. His pistol on the hip is a pretty badass look tho.

One advantage of generally watching TV shows as whole seasons is staying interested, even after bad episodes.

The Walking Dead's mostly fun and such, but it turned on me with the latest episode.

The "terrorist" blubber's uninventive writing usually seen on really bad network shows and it's been a mere decade since official propaganda made it into television drama programming - ridiculous to no end.

Minimerica's blood-thirsty and full of bigotry - good news from so, so long ago.

The tyrant's a loony psycho, chauvinistically serving along a Futurama heads reference for the pack he wants his public side to be adored by and he's got some baby girl issues on top - not that bad in concept, but played out and in that episode it was pretty fucking bad.

Ninja sister bitch needs a hug - the angry black woman number's played out and the vacant staring's getting tiresome.

The contrived pseudo story trying to put together why who goes where and shit inevitably goes South isn't much more than exactly that - there's stuff to be hacked and shot and sprayed after all just like in any other bad horror flick.

Hopefully it was a one-time shocker and not a preview of bullshit to come.

I think this discussion shows the "richness" of the Dead. Well developed characters and meaningful plot. Sort of a Zombie Star Trek ? lol

Star Trek always had some really bad episodes sprinkled in where some warp drive just didn't fire up or a cave collapsed or other shit. Less CGI, less cost and so on.

The best TV on the Radio show is Breaking Bad everything else is just tolerable...

Walking Dead LOLZ...(fucking video game on Tv and the low IQ public loves it like they loved When the Whistle Blows on Extras... you having a laugh you having a laugh? ) substitute catchphrases for zombie kills and that's your show..

breaking bad huh?.

I'll have to check that out.

I've heard good things about it.

Popping the VP on Homeland has me nicely dragged back in.

Seriously, you haven't watched it? Do it, do it now. You'll thank me.

The best TV show ever was and is The Wire. The Best Tv Show on TV now is Breaking Bad. It's a close call but right now I put The Wire ahead of Bad however Bad has 1 last season to pull ahead.

Top Ten

1. The Wire
2. Breaking Bad
3. The Sopranos
4. M.A.S.H
5. Seinfeld
6. All In the Family(the first 5 years)
7. The Office(U.K.)
8. Arrested Development
9. House
10. South Park(best pure satire on TV right now)

Good list, but The Office, Breaking Bad and the Sopranos don't belong. Add Firefly, Homicide: Life on the Street, and Cheers.

Firefly wasn't a series it was a cancellation and a campy low budget movie. Sify is just daft and can never be good. Its distraction at its best.

Homicide:Life on the streets was on Network TV and went on too long and The Wire blows the other Baltimore crime show outa the watter...

Cheers...? LOLZ.... "you wanna go were everybody knows your name" LAME....No HUGGIN and NO LEARNING..

Is the Wire on Netflix?

Good call on Homicide: LOTS, that show was the tits but did hang on a few years past its prime.

Firefly was one of the most original shows ever produced. Taking two separate genres and melding them together as one. Not to mention some the best writing I've ever heard. The basic premise of the show was individual liberty versus the tyranny of big government. With Hollywood and most of the people running it firmly in the leftist camp these days, this program could never be produced today.

The Shield belongs on the list. As do:

The Honeymooners
The Simpsons
The Dick Van Dyke Show
Mary Tyler Moore Show
The Andy Griffith Show
The Rifleman
Hill Street Blues
The Larry Sanders Show
Leave it to Beaver (best kids show ever)
Great American Dream Machine

Twilight Zone.

Which is ironic in that Joss Whedon is a typical Hollywood leftie.

Actors only know what's put in front of them.

why no sopranos?. and yes breaking bad!. mad men too.

and recommending breaking bad is so 2009. guapo was talking that shit back in the day. sometimes you fuckers are exceedingly numb and i never EVER use the word exceedingly.

Can't disagree with any of those.

These Cunts have Tvland and similar shit on TV all day. Probably have stacks of vintage Saturday Evening Post and Boys life magazines with Rockwell Illustrations on the cover of "America" and that's what they have in their little craniums when they bitch and moan about when they look an illegal doing a job they don't want to do or Barack Obama being president...


You're headed towards extinction motherfuckers

i hate to do it but i agree with nate. fuck that list.

If you don't know what those shows did to American TV as far as camera work, number of cameras, set design, storylines character development and dialogue than you are just as clueless as meat.

I'd add "All in the Family" to that list as well.

Those are not just old shows. They were almost all groundbreaking in some way. Just because they were before your time and you don't understand what they meant at the time doesn't make them less significant. You have a lot of growing up to do.

The only show I question in his list is Rifleman but I can see why it's there as it portrayed a single Dad who was hard-nosed yet competent with his son. This is different from Andy Griffith which later had that theme but is more revolutionary for it's use of cameras and the quality of its writing.

Edit: My comment was addressed to Nate not Lou but it's always good for XPT to stir up a little controversy between Mods.

then i guess mtvs real world should be on the list.

I don't know about Real World because I didn't/don't watch it but if you think so, hey go for it.

What a pisser cunt. Typical boringho "counter" full on nonsense and then aggrandizing his position in comparison to Lou. Hey, Lou is your fucking boss twit and can hire and fire you ass...

You Berk Twat

real world was shit and would never belong on a greatest shows list.
it's claim to fame was an aids laced minority shitting the bed post production from what I remember. that and it pretty much started the reality show bit.

Now fear factor on the other hand...

@ Nate... deep breath....relax. you've been here before. it's going to be okay.
tv is like music...you can only be so right.

In response to Nate:

What? You post that nonsense and expect anyone to believe you didn't mean to sign in under your PipeDream account?

English. Try it.


I understand it very well and don't need a thesaurus or dictionary to know what aggrandizing means. Now explain why you think my post was such or you will get the fuck out of this thread, and possibly others, until you can contribute something other than derails to each and every thread you post in. You've confessed being psychotic or neurotic or some other coddled-kid disease description for "can't get along with others" but you won't be coddled here. Just because your parents neglected you and Social Services medicated you doesn't mean we have to. Not yet.

The pathetic part is you look at evidence of your daftness as proof of your genius....

You're a pasty old tired white redneck inbred... nothing more nothing less...

You had the nerve to call him Boringyo? You're natural Ambien.

Niggerish Response

Yeah I don't get it either. For someone begging for attention by screaming for creativity in others posts he is just doing the same old song and dance. To the point I wish it was Monkey trolling again. It would be much better if Monkey was trolling. That would be creative but only if it was Monkey.

What a little baby. You accuse me of derailing the thread when I attacked you what you liked about boringho Tv which was on topic. Instead of staying on topic you went after me with you same old tired better than you old man bullshit.. and now you accuse me of being repetitive...

boring dolt

speaking of old

how old are you

from the picture I think you played Football with a leather helmet.

I don't have anything against old folk, its either getting old or dying and I'd rather get old

however with age there is a reasonable expectation of wisdom and you have absolutely none

then again your a self proclaimed king of a jerk off spank forum in a forgotten corner of cyber space

probably expecting to much..

PipeD....spelling and grammar cleanup on aisle Nate Mayweather.
repeat....
aisle Nate Mayweather.

I'm glad to see the shield made a list. good show.
I used to hear people rave about dennis learys show...rescue me was it?.
I fucken hate that guy. whoever decided he was fit to play a tough guy needs their head checked.

You guys'll see what you want and do your thing. A bit paranoid and surprisingly active for once, yes, yes?

Nate took his moniker from the movie Cabin Boy. His opinions on quality media are therefore moot.

Great and groundbreaking aren't the same. Real World, Survivor, that kind of stuff brought about a new style of tv production. But to call either "great" would be a bit much.

You are right, and the thread doesn't say "great", but "good".

And I'm sure the OP meant current shows. But since when does anything stay on topic here? Typical XPT wandering. It's like a locals bar but more real than Cheers- more like Moes.

Want a more contemporary list?
In no particular order:

Sopranos
Shield
The Wire
The Simpsons
Homeland
The Newsroom
Seinfeld
Larry Sanders Show
Mr Show with Bob and David
Spongebob Squarepants

Larry Sanders is the root of a lot of modern day comedy greatness I think, including the UK Office and Curb.

Haven't seen a mention of Deadwood yet. I'll do it here.

Justified is also solid.

As the OP's personal representative, I think he probably meant current, but only because he didn't think of older shows, or great vs. groundbreaking...that sort of thing. But I assure you he's good with it going wherever it goes.

Someone put Leave It to Beaver. I absolutely loved that show. It had wrapped before I was born, but I identified with the family. My parents were actually my grandparents. So my mom and dad were way older than my friend's parents. All the parents on Beaver were my parent's age. They were the only ones on tv like my parents. I can sit and watch a Sunday marathon of the Beav, stoned to the gills, spouting line for line, without a trace of irony.

Not originally tv, but we watched a bunch of the early Little Rascals shorts. It was a different world then.

Just bought my kid a DVD set of the Lancelot Link series. Chimps capering around like humans. Nothing made a better Saturday morning than a big Jethro Bodine sized bowl of Capn Crunch, Lancelot Link on the tv and my parents still in bed.

The Gospel According to Gus the Fireman. Great read.

Best Reality Show: An Idiot Abroad

Is the Idiot Abroad guy as clueless as he seems or is it an Andy Kauffman thing?

I loved Lancelot Link. I think I was a member of the fan club, if there was one.

as a wrestling fan you already know the answer. that shit is produced.

Just as I suspected. It's still real to me, dammit.

Does anyone recall Crime Story? That show turned me onto the genius that is Dennis Farina. I wasn't a huge fan of the first season, but when they moved the show to Vegas, it picked up nicely. Very early 60s Vegas. Mob intrigue, tweaking historical events, atom bomb testing in the desert. Even a recurring character played by Dice Clay. The theme song was a reworking of Del Shannon's Runaway that was fantastic. Season 2 ended on a cliffhanger, and no Season 3.

Believe Abel Ferrara was behind Crime Story. Vaguely remember it.

I'll see your Crime Story and raise you a Wiseguy. It turned me on to the genius that is Jonathan Banks.

Never cared for Wiseguy. The lead's facial features were a little too chiseled for my taste.

I turned on to Criminal Minds a few years ago. Serial killer buff and all. My girl gets pissed at me because the title segment shows pics of serial killers that the Behavioral Sciences Unit never had anything to do with. Ramirez, Manson...I can't remember the others. I always have to comment on it. I'm a cheeky bastard.