What does it sum up, exactly? We fought two wars with England. 2 with Germany. A pretty big one with Japan.

We threw our cards in with the Afghanis in the 80s because it was in our national interests (oil), and was the right thing to do. But, like we do, we failed to win the peace. No Party was immune from that, before we start getting partisan.

The thing about Monday morning quarterbacking the Afghani thing is that in the 80s, absolutely no one was saying "oh, we best watch out. In 20 years these fuckheads are going to be shooting Stingers at us". The only people who were against supporting the mujas, and the Contras, were the usual suspects who were:

A) Afraid that standing up to the Soviets would just make them mad.

or

2) Fellow travellers.

So don't pretend that the Tali problem was visible a mile away.

As for McVeigh, he was out far enough the Nazis didn't want him. It's a myth that WP/ militia/ Nazis are sitting around waiting for marching orders from Limbaugh and Gutfeld. I got to know quite a few of them in my FFL days. Limbaugh and Savage/ Beck/ whoever are all part of the System. Certainly not to be trusted. There is zero evidence that Reagan comparing the muja to the Founding Fathers contributed to OKC.

I'm sure T would be just as rich and chunky white whore fucking if his ancestors hadn't been pulled out of the trees and brought to civilization. He'd either be ordering a Rambo gun from the Lord of War or digging diamonds with his one remaining arm.