You forgot to blame the hurricane.

Chris Matthews already credited the storm.

Dude, if they are evangelical christians, before they are AMERICANS, then FUCK THEM. If they are so hardcore loonie that they can't vote for the lesser 2 evils in order to further their vision of what the country should be, then they should all die in there fucking sleep.

THEY ARE WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. Republican party aint no Jeebus party. GOP is the party of less government in my life, as opposed to Dem "nanny state". Those FUCKING LUNATICS will not be happy unless the GOP becomes the "government shoves the bible down yer throat at every turn" party. FUCK THAT.

And those fucking mental patients will NEEEEVER leave the Republican party, because if they did they would never be paid attention to again on a national stage.

I would like to add that if anyone out there is a Republican before you are an American or a Democrat before you are an American, then you are truly a fucking asshole that is too stupid to deserve the privilege of voting.

OK. Fuck them and you will be living in a socialist country from now on because the Republicans will never win another race with a moderate candidate.

Here are some interesting numbers. Draw what conclusions you will.

Popular vote totals:

Obama 2012: 59,837,407
Obama 2008: 69,456,897

McCain 2008: 59,934,814
Obama 2012: 59,837,407
Romney 2012: 57,190,188

McCain, as badly as he was trounced, got more votes in 2008 than Obama got in 2012. Romney is 2012 got less than both. Obama received nearly 10 million fewer votes in this election than in the last.

This map from the New York Times shows that most of the country moved to the right last night, but enthusiasm for Romney was so low that he couldn't overcome a wounded Obama.

Move to the right

Do you really think that a national election can be won with out getting people to cross party lines while voting?

Do you think that the Evangelical Kooks didn't vote in primaries?

Do you actually think a Caribou Barbie/Joel Osteen type of ticket has a chance of getting anything besides laughed out of the room? Maybe not Caribou Barbie, how about that Bachman dunce that thinks you can Pray Away the Gay.


I do find it funny that yesterday Romney was sliced bread, pussy and the Polio vaccine all rolled into one, and now he is what is wrong with the GOP.

Good luck with the Thunder, I'll be rooting for them to win, unless they are playing Brooklyn.

Anyway, on to other matters. I got Christie for the GOP, who the Dems gonna put up to ride Obammy's coattails w/ the economy on the upswing? The cycle should be coming out of the trough 2014-15, unless Qualitative Easing bites us in the ass.

I saw Hillary was on top of the odds. http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/poli...ocrat-candidate I still feel she is unelectable, as I did in 2008. Biden will be too old and Cuomo too New York. I think that is wide open.

Looking over their 2016 GOP odds http://www.oddschecker.com/specials/poli...lican-candidate, I tell ya, I am liking the sound of a Christie/Condoleeza ticket. She has the foreign relations experience that he would need in a VP, and would draw in spook voters that are sad they got no Obama left to vote for. After 8 years w/ GWB, she can be labeled a Washington Insider, which the Big Guy would need. Yep, this is the ticket I'll go with, unless a tenured Mid West congressperson, that aint a bible kook, jumps out at me.

Our economic problems aren't related to a typical business cycle. What we had in 2008/09 was a full-blown financial meltdown. You can't count on a cyclical upswing any time in the next four years. Frankly, I don't think Obama cares about economic growth. He wants to socialize the U.S. That is his sole agenda.

It's Quantitative Easing, by the way. After three rounds and more to come, I'd say it has already bitten us in the ass.

Christie in 2016 equals another Democrat president. The economy isn't going to recover because it can't with a trillion new regulations choking down small businesses. Europe is headed for another recession and we will follow. In a two choice system Romney was the best choice, especially economically, he just wasn't good enough to get the more conservative Republicans out to vote for him. Republicans need a candidate that can bridge the gap between fiscal and social conservatives. Despite what the main stream media has beaten into your mind there are people out there that live their lives as christian social conservatives that have no intention of shoving their beliefs down your throat.

Thank you for the clarification on the name of the policy.

Isn't hyper inflation the biting in the ass that could come?

Yes. We are already seeing commodity inflation. If you've been to a supermarket lately, you already know that. So far, we haven't seen the price/wage death spiral variety of inflation, that is only because wages are depressed and productivity has been more or less increasing. At some point, inflation will be an enormous problem. You can't just keep printing money with no long-term consequences.

After my initial response to your question, I came across this article on Zero Hedge. You might find it interesting.

The Fed and Inflation

Silver was right.

Last night was an anomaly, just a minor bump in the road on our way to reclaiming our country. The good news is that when all the dust settles Jeb Bush will be our candidate in 2016. If you think overwise, consider the alternatives:

(1) Chris Christie - Obese fucker who still managed to bend over backwards to kiss Obama's black ass. 5% chance of being nominated.

(2) Paul Ryan - The female version of Sarah Palin, this ignorant dipshit couldn't even handle Joe Biden in a debate. That said, I still get wet in the panties just thinking about him. 10% chance of being nominated.

(3) Donald Trump - Living proof of a correlation between Alzheimers and hair loss, this fucker will still be looking for Obama's birth certificate four years from now. 15% chance of being nominated.

(4) Marco Rubio - A Telemundo watching Caribbean wetback who can't even read a fucking teleprompter and who secretly worships Fidel Castro. 20% chance of being nominated.

Jeb Bush and preferably Grover Norquist as his VP returns America to where it needs to be - back to the glory days of 2000-2008, which from an economic standpoint was the most successful decade of the 21st century.

Then you will have 30 million independent and moderate voters voting for the Democratic candidate. Demographically the religious right is shrinking with every election while the Hispanic block is increasing. Meanwhile the GOP does everything they can to pander to the shrinking block and piss off the growing one. Until they reverse this they are going to lose every election no matter who runs for them. It's not as much of a loss to have 30 million people who normally vote for you stay at home as it is to have 30 million people who would normally vote for you vote for the other guy instead.



As for 2016 the Republican party leadership will have Mt. Rushmore sized rocks in their head if the ticket is anything besides Christie/Rubio. I haven't the faintest clue who the Democrats will run. If Obamacare ends up being the fuck up it should be it won't matter.

It was god's will that Silver was right.

I think you suffer from Jerky's disease and think if a candidate is appealing to the evangelical group that automatically makes him unappealing to the others. There are ways to bridge the gap. Go ahead and put Christie up, but it's been two moderate establishment republicans running with two more conservative VP picks and two losses so far.

Fuck you and the 400 point DOW drop. Fucking food stamp collecting bitch.

@Nitneliun: I haven't paid attention at the grocery store as much as the feed store (too many items). Bag of horse feed that was $12.99 in 2005 is now $18.99. I'll check out that article in a little bit. Thanks.

@Cody: You blow any validity your post may have had by including Trump. He is a blow hard attention whore and would have his life crumble if actually subjected to a full vetting by the media.

@TUP: I just don't know about Rubio. Mostly it is my gut feeling that anything/anyone out of Florida is shady as hell.

@Doctor Boris: You wish that squirrelly Jew had a set of bolt ons and would let you suck his cock.

@have2cit: Please give us an example of what an acceptable 2016 GOP ticket would be to you. You can just throw out a couple names, bullet points on why they are electable are not needed. Thank you.

JFC! The election was just yesterday. That's like talking about the playoffs two games into the preseason.

I know I've expressed something close to a man-on-man erotic crush on Paul Ryan. And while he's still the only Republican politician I'd consider pumping iron with dressed only in our underwear, I realize the time has come to probably move on. What I really need now is a token minority who can fool the brown masses into following him and who can sweep me off my feet, at least until I come to my senses, since I'm not really into the whole interracial thing. So, for what it's worth, here's what Rubio had to say today:
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Senator Rubio released the following statement about the presidential election:

"It has been a privilege campaigning for Mitt Romney, getting to know him and traveling throughout the country on his behalf. When future generations look back on this election, I am proud they will count me among those who chose a path of limited government and free enterprise at a critical crossroads in our history. I am proud to have cast my vote for Mitt Romney.

"Now comes the hard part. America faces monumental challenges in putting people back to work, reducing our crushing debt and advancing our interests around the world.

"In the next Congress, I am committed to working on upward mobility policies that will ensure people who work hard and play by the rules can rise above the circumstances of their birth and leave their children better off. The conservative movement should have particular appeal to people in minority and immigrant communities who are trying to make it, and Republicans need to work harder than ever to communicate our beliefs to them. I look forward to working on these goals with my new and returning colleagues in Congress and hope the President will get behind our efforts."
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Does that have the potential to make me wet in the panties the way Paul Ryan has? Sure, but I'm still keeping my options open.

Typical Obama supporting cunt. DOW drops 400 points and he's happy he gets more food stamps. (9_9)

By the way, we're all pretty immune to Obama gloating by now.

And personally pieces of shit like like charin can have the Country. I'm highly skilled and very well paid. I also work for a global corporation. I'm able to split as soon as an opportunity arises.

charin can have the USA with all the public assistance he can get. lol.

Full implementation of the ACA.

Two or three SCOTUS appointments for Obama.

End of the longest war in U.S. history.

Taxes on the rich will soon be restored to Clinton-era.

The economy will continue to improve, giving the Dems an advantage in 2016.

America wins. We will continue long term solutions like education, infrastructure, R&D. Social equality slowly marches on.

And you know that for fact. Fuck off dreamer. It's time to put people like you in camps.

Fucking idiot doesn't even understand the Military-Congressional-Industrial complex.

Like I said charin. You can have the country.

Believe it or not, I'm the fucking guy who designs your infrastructure. It's not getting fixed for shit in this Country.

But food stamps are a-plenty.

Not as bad as the trillions the nagger in the White House has.

I hope you burn all the history books, because you're going to have a hard time explaining to your kids why you voted for the idiot who set the US on the road to Third World status

GWB?

No it is not. It is like handicapping the Kentucky Derby based breeding and a race as a 2 year old. The next wave of party leaders are given the stage at the conventions, and exposure while campaigning for their guy. Obama went from stirring speech at the Kerry convention to 2 terms at the White House. POTUS is probably the longest he has ever held a job, no pun intended. Bobby Jindal crashed his shot at being the GOP's Great Dark Hope the night of Obama's first State of the Union speech. It is never too early to speculate. This is the new USA, the campaigning never stops.

Your real answer is that there is no one qualified or electable out of the GOP Kook Kamp, because they are nothing more than a vocal minority in the grand scheme of things.

Bobby Jindal really did screw the pooch that night. Never heard from him ever since except when the oil platform exploded.

No one was talking about Hussein in November of 2004. They were talking about the establishment, Shillary, like you're talking about Christie. Of course any Republican will have to be what they appear to be because the leftist hate grinder media will investigate them.

Besides, I think if the establishment GOP is going to insist on moderates, that it may indeed be time to split the party.

I was going to say he should be sent to some third world country, but why waste the jet fuel when he can just stay here a little while longer?

Chuck, you've avoided this question before. When do things stop being Bush's fault?

Things?

The two wars being bungled will always be Boosh's fault. Same with the fucked up tax cuts for the rich that helped give us the debt. The Boosh Recession will always be, duh, Boosh's fault.

If by things, you mean, economic recovery and restoration, that is Obama and the Congress. Obama took on responsibility for avoiding total economic collapse, ending the wars, and getting us headed in the right direction. He has failed to get Congress to end the tax cuts for the rich. I wish recovery, especially job creation, was faster.

The bullshit in the Patriot Act was Boosh's fault, along with Congress. But Obama is just as bad, he now owns it. He owns the killer drones.

Are you on gubment subsidized meds?

Not yet.

Somthin wrong wit you, nigga! Please get cancer in your ass and die.

Food stamp collecting piece of shit.

I hope Gary Johnson stays busy and visible the next 4 years, runs as a Libertarian , and steals votes from both parties in 2016. I am getting tired of my (mostly left) political friends painting him as a nut. He was a fucking two term governor.
My more right leaning american buds (who are more Goldwaterish) do not give a flying fuck about what gay people do and most of them like to smoke the occasional joint. I can't see them comfortably voting for a social conservative no-how.

Goldwater didn't give a fuck abt what gay ppl did as long as they shot straight.

These socialist motherfuckers like charin. I honestly hope they die. I wish death upon the motherfucker. It's like he's not human anymore.

So say we're in in 2016, the economy has gotten worse, more people on public assistance, the deficit has continued to increase greatly, the nation hasn't healed but is even more divided and pretty much imploded. Things like that. Is this still Bush's fault or will it be Obama's fault?

Been there, done that.

@Jig I said Obama and the Congress are responsible for the recovery.

What the fuck was the results on prop B ?

Someone told me marijuana is legal now in Washington? Like they're going to be selling it in stores?

Approved for recreational use in Washington and Colorado but...

Measure B passed. Porn filmed in LA County will need to utilize rubbers.

Measure B passed, BDM. Time to fight it or move things to SF or OC.

What fucking recovery you're talking about? The only reason to vote for Obama is because of how much worse romney would have been, the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. Are you really proud of another empty suit corporate shill congenital liar? I had a perverse wish that Romney would have won just so people could see how far down the shitter it would go in 4 years so maybe, just maybe it could be the nail in the coffin of the republican party. The dems are only a few small levels less revolting....the only thing making them look any better has just been the far more ridiculous levels the republicans manage to move to the right every year.