I can't eat any chain pizza's anymore. They make me sick, literally. Last time I had a slice of Papa John's at a neice's b'day party I got the trots almost right away.

The newest trendy Pizza joint in my hood is called 800 Degrees. It's owned by the Umami Burger guys and it is a HUGE hit. Picture doing a pizza joint like a Subway or Chipotle setup. Long service line, pick a crust and sauce, step down and choose toppings, step down and order salads and sides, step down and watch your pie go into an 800 degree open face oven and pop out in about 2 minutes. Step down and pay under $10 for a basic and $12 for one with a few toppings. Get a drink cup and step down to one of those new soda machines that have 120-150 flavors of soda. Find your own table and you're out in like 20 minutes.
The kids go nuts for the soda machine. The line moves quickly and there is a line out the door all day and night.
Great quality ingredients, fresh buffalo mozzarella sitting in water that is pinched off right in front of you, fresh veggies, nitrate free meats, thick cut salads in those trendy wedge shaped bowls, beer and house wine, soda gimmick for the kids....these guys are just printing money!

880 Degrees website with pics

Well, Barry, maybe if they hadn't decided to give away Two Million Pizzas as a promotional stunt, they wouldn't have to threaten to cut anyone's job, huh?

Your argument is specious. Anyway, thanks for rushing to the defense of the crappy chain pizzas at the expense of the small businesses the (R)'s pretend to support but throw under the bus. You think the minorities re-elected Obama on their own?





^^^There's your small business owners/Local Pizzeria Owners right there.

How is the argument specious?

Those with fewer than 25 employees receive subsidies if they chose to provide coverage.

You're chock full o'win today.

Wonderful, I guess I won't be getting that new BMW.

Well, we could start with your absurd notion that there's such a thing as a "local" McDonalds, Pizza Hut, etc. It's very ubiquity rules against it.

More to the point, though: It's specious because Obamacare actually benefits small businesses. Companies with fewer than 50 employees are exempt from the responsibility to provide healthcare or be fined. Those with fewer than 25 employees receive subsidies if they chose to provide coverage. John Schacter's problem seems to be that it would lower labor costs for the mom & pop places.

In sum, you want to screw over small business owners, their families and the millions of people they employ in order to reward a Kajillionaire with poor marketing skills who peddles inferior product. You're chock full o'win today.

Except that Papa Johns isn't competing with mom and pop pizza shops anyway.

In a lot of lines of business, you basically have big companies competing with other big companies. But food service in general and pizza in particular aren't like that. Obviously Papa John's does compete with Dominoes and other large chains. But a huge share of the pizza market is held by non-chain operators. Some of them are offering a high-end product that Papa John's isn't really competitive with, but there's lots of middling-to-bad independent pizza out there in this fine country and its just as likely that the chains will expand by taking those places out as by competing with each other for market share. And now along comes ObamaCare to subsidize the competition. Not for any particular policy reason closely tailored to the goals of the law, but basically for the sake of a talking point—Democrats can say, accurately, that, far from burdening small businesses, the Affordable Care Act goes out of its way to help them.

The local McDs is owned by a local franchisee, who hires local people. I don't know about Hut or John's, whether they're franchises or not.

To say there's no such thing as a "local" Mcds is just wrong.

Not saddling a kajillionaire with an unreasonable new tax isn't "rewarding" them.

It's all moot tho. We're going to get to see it in action. Should be interesting.

From the article I linked to earlier:




I did a bit of googling and it seems that 65 percent of American pizzerias are independently owned. And, living in Brooklyn, I can personally attest to the fact that enough of them offer Panzer Pizza at Panzer Prices. So, yes, the chains do compete with the Mom & Pop joints.

Anyway, why shouldn't better pizza command a higher price? Should a Lambo cost as much as a Honda? Or does that argument only apply to the big guys, and not to the small businesspeople who built this country. 'Cause if it does, that's not capitalism. That's Oligarchy. Ask Putin about that.



They are. The majority of franchisees own multiple franchises, thus giving them too many employees to qualify.




By that logic, you're saying that all business is local. You're trying to sound like Reagan, but it's coming out like Tip O'Neill









Well, Barry, the majority of Americans think it’s reasonable. Otherwise, Ann Romney would be hiring architects to build a stable at the White House for her dressage horses.







Smartest thing either of us has said in this thread.

With all of the coupons Alex has stolen from his neighbors...

But he deserves more! He wants his free pizzas with extra pepperoni so he can take it off and put it in his soup.

I take a slice, peel off the cheese with toppings and put it on my face as a mask, and use the remaining slice with sauce to wipe my ass.

Wait, I do that. Well, I fish discarded coupons out of the little trash bin we keep near the mailboxes. About a year ago, a nice little Italian place sent out $15 gift cards in a mailing. I think I gathered 8 or 9 of those fuckers.

I had to quote this. And then you eat it, right?

A First Amendment watchdog group is suing the Internal Revenue Service for failing to challenge the tax-exempt status of churches whose pastors engage in partisan politicking from the pulpit.

The Freedom From Religion Foundation, which advocates total separation of church and state, filed the lawsuit Wednesday (Nov. 14) in U.S. District Court in Western Wisconsin, where the 19,000-member organization is based.

Obama bought more votes from dumb people with federal money. Plain and simple.

Yeah it's a real shame Romney didn't have a brother or son as governor in one of the swing states this go around.

Obama is POTUS, Quayle ain't.

IMO Ohioans were put off by Willard's line of bullshit about Jeep production and other things.

This election was blatantly bought by the prick in chief.