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My guess is that you're talking about the CBS/NYT swing state poll? For that to be true there would have to be a record Democrat turnout. Biggest in modern political history.
Florida:
In 2004 the vote was R+4. In 2008 the vote was D+3 CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9.
Ohio:
In 2004 the vote was R+5 In 2008 the vote was D+8 CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9
Pennsylvania:
In 2010 the vote was D+3 In 2008 the vote was D+7 CBS/NYTs is reporting that in 2012 we will see D+9
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1K death Pool
I have a 1K yearly death pool with several guys which will end midnight 12-31-2012
My list was heavy with political leaders and So far I'm way ahead with Gaddafi, Kim Jun, and The Syrian Leader Bashar Hafez al-Assad headed down the same road. We give points based on age and method of death.(murder, suicide, Od, or combination of two or the trifecta which is a $100 bonus from all participatns)
One guy has Obama and I think I'm about to loose 2k.....
Dude is getting elected and some other dude is gonna set things right...
I think legally if Obama wins and gets it before he takes his oath then the Speaker of the house is Prez...
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The left was crying about an assassination when Obama was elected. What of that actually came true? None. Not even a half assed credible attempt. If he is killed though it will be Islamic terrorists and it will be Biden that gets the office, which should be all the assassination insurance Obama has ever needed.
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I'm talking about a legal loop hole
if he is taken out before he takes oath for a second term then Biden cannot take office because He wasn't elected. They can't call a "special election" so Bidens term ends January 20th 2013 thus the office falls to the speaker of the house who is more than likely to be current speaker of the house. All though I could see a Cardinal Like election happening in the House on Jan5 up until the 10th of January to select the speaker. Hella TV coverage. People talking about a coupe.... The Whole system goes to shit...
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That doesn't sound right. Biden is the duly elected Vice President of the United States, he still would be if they win. Boehner is no longer the Speaker of the House once this Congress closes and there won't be a new one until the new one convenes and they elect one. Sounds hazy enough to get the SCOTUS involved.
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Section 3 of the 20th Amendment:
Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.
It would be a shit storm....
Something I can get behind....The destruction of our current form of government...
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If Obama won the election Biden wouldn’t be the Vice President Elect, he would still be the Vice President and still be doing his duties in the Senate accordingly. If as you assume the Republicans take the Senate, then it most likely will be Romney that takes the election and becomes the President Elect and I don’t see any problem with a Republican Congress giving Paul Ryan the go ahead to accept the duties of the President.
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Luckiest team in the NBA too, considering they could have had Oden fall into their lap.
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Please. They've kept together the best core group of players in the NBA for many years now. They had their three best players make the Olympic team, more than any other. We're not just talking about a great team, we're talking about a dynasty in the making.
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Best core for years? Where them championships at then? You are lucky I am a white fool, that only has a passing interest in the NBA. I'm sure Blackules would school you if he was around.
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pretty sure blackules won't be needed here unless he's got a standup routine that can " learn" wasshisface how to deliver a line without making the general population want to puke or take up arms.
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Originally Posted By: Jerkules
Best core for years? Where them championships at then? You are lucky I am a white fool, that only has a passing interest in the NBA. I'm sure Blackules would school you if he was around.
So far the Western Conference Championship and three Olympic gold medals. It's a young team and not one mired down in it's own self perpetuating malaise like some others professional sports teams that could be mentioned.
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Dude, all joking aside, you NEVER pimp your team on a conference championship, league pennant, nothing like that. All it shows is you made it to the Finals and lost.
Maybe it is residue from your college sports fandom, where winning your conference might mean something. I know you Okies aren't really up to snuff on pro sports, but pro sports are all about rings. Medals don't mean shit either. Maybe in Hockey, where the rest of the world is actually competitive.
All that said, they do have a very nice team, and I was rooting for them over Miami. Just don't go jumping the gun on them.
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So you haven't pimped your team since 1969. Maybe what they need is a little more fan support.
Anyway, we're getting away from the original idea of this thread which was for the alt ID POTUS (yes I know who you are) to bolster his delusions about an Obama victory.
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@ Nate Where are you getting this? I'm going with a second term POTUS dying scenario, natural causes...political assassinations give me the willies. So, the POTUS keels over right before the ceremony. At what point, previous to that, is he not POTUS? As I understand it, a second term is a seamless continuation of the first term. At no point between election and moment of inauguration is the POTUS not the POTUS. The same would be true of the VPOTUS. There would be a seam between a POTUS dying and a VPOTUS taking the reigns, but no bigger seam than is written into the Constitution.
You're right, I think, for a POTUS- elect. Same scenario, first term POTUS- elect dropping in the moments before the ceremony. I'm pretty sure, since the VOPOTUS- elect hasn't been sworn in, that at the moment of power change the Speaker would be the nominal Head of State.
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Dude, don't get me started about Woody. Woody is running the team almost as poorly as he raised his daughter. We were him picking up a fucking phone from having Bill Cowher as our head coach. They say the 2 most important spots on an NFL team are Starting QB and Owner, we got an empty uni and an empty suit at those spots.
Good troll, dick.
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Romney is killing it in the the debate tonight. Obama sounds like he's still running for his first term election as if the last 3.5 years of his crap Presidency never occurred.
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I know you gentlemen have been through a lot,and when you find the time...I'd rather not spend the rest of the winter tied to this fucking couch!
Actually, pretty much everyone on both sides is saying Romney won. And it isn't even close.
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yeah it seems the romney-bot did pretty well for itself. I fucken love the fact that they found the absolute whitest motherfucker on the planet to run against monkey business.
you ever get the feeling you're living in a scripted movie?.
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This was a landslide. Even MSNBC is saying Romney was better tonight. Bill Maher thinks Romney won. The only spin they can run with is if they maybe try to pick apart Romney on facts. Maybe Obama should have given more than one press conference a year where he lets reports ask questions. Going on The View is no way to prepare for a substantive debate.
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Oh, I'm not saying Romney lost the debate on facts. I'm saying that's literally the only angle the media can take if they want to defend Obama and slam Romney. Romney won this debate. CNN just showed a poll of their viewers with 67% saying Romney won vs. only 25% for Obama. The only thing they can do now is try to claim Romney was lying.
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OK, then I guess Romney is a more dynamic liar. Obama seemed like he had a bunch of memorized talking points that he wasn't straying from no matter what. He even repeated some lines from his acceptance speech at the Democratic National Convention.
For example, he tried to outline Romney's tax plan as having $5 Trillion in tax cuts and kept going back to that number even after Romney had flat out said, "That's not in my plan. I'm not doing that." It was actually kind of funny to watch someone who's supposed to be such a great orator get out-talked by the stiff white dude.
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You guys do realize that at this level of politics they are "the face" and we're "the heel", right?. it's bought and paid for at a corporate level which includes the news source that gives you the percentages and tells you what to think. they are "news programs". that doesn't mean it's the news.
Who's nancy grace voting for?
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I'll be happy when Obama stops spending all the money the country has and just goes away. I'll be happy if a guy who knows how to run a business and make millions from investments is running the show rather than someone who has never run anything in his life outside of academia.
As far as the news media goes, they're almost all in support of Obama, so I don't see what your point is there.
What happened here tonight shows that if you put both candidates out there for 2 hours and let them present their ideas without any spin by the media, the public overwhelming prefers Romney. There's a reason Obama doesn't take questions from the media or go anywhere without his TelePrompter. Shit, he even brought one to give a speech at an elementary school.
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At least he didn't get a shoe thrown at him.
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I'm voting based on who would do a better job at running the country. Mitt Romney actually looks like a guy who people would work for. Obama is an egghead professor who gives prepared speeches about shit he doesn't comprehend. The problem is, people keep telling him he's a genius and he actually believes it. Tonight was the first time he's really been exposed for how inept he actually is at his job. He's gonna need to play a lot of golf to clear his mind after this performance.
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