What the fuck is wrong with people? Luckily pols everywhere are racing to microphones to make hay of this. Fuck.

Fred Willard ain't hatin it today.

this should also put the "Theres no such thing as bad publicity" theory to the test at the box office this weekend.

I've been calling the shooter John Wilkes Ticket Booth all day.

I want to let you all know that I am ok.

People need to beat their children more, it helps build empathy, at a young age, with others who feel pain.

soo good. right up there with your game of throats drop. solid laugh G, thanks.

and this shooting is the price of doing business in a free society. unfortunately there is evil out there and it will always get its time to shine.

I love how every time there is an outburst of violence, our lying media are quick to pin the blame on the Tea Party. Short of Mormon missionaries, you couldn't ask for a milder crew than the Tea Party, and the media tries to dress them up as a marauding mob. It's really sick.

this is why theres so many punks in the inland empire.its no wonder hardly anybody out here is actually tough or has made it in life.i can think of travis barker and um some random moto guys that are never seen in their hometowns where they still live.i dont blame them for not wanting to hang out with the "twills"that are their fans.

thats another thing youre not in hs anymore no teacher is over your should and is gonna give you detention for actually calling someone a fag.fags.

The thought of my Tea Partying octogenarian grandmother walking up a movie theater aisle plugging moviegoers does provoke some humor in my mind.

While one side of the political spectrum has such a tight control over most of the media outlets there will always be zealots among them who will use their position of power to fight for their cause. Monopolies suck.

This insane fuck was a PhD candidate in neuroscience? What the fuck was he hoping to be...Dr. Mengele? Todesengel.

Probably had suppressed homosexual urges to have necrosex with Heath Ledger.

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nary a mention of mental illness or society's attitude toward the mentally ill. the guy was fucking deeply disturbed. and somebody close to him knew it.

Fuck liberals and their anti-gun bullshit. If two or three of the moviegoers were packing heat and had the inclination to engage it would've been a different story. Maybe 5 dead instead of 12.

We have the right to bear arms and yet 98% of its citizens know dick abt gun ownership. Fuck you. You're sheep and deserve to be massacred. Get some balls.

oh shit. I went off.

It is all good. The internet is the safest place to fly off the handle.

Hard to say what the fallout of this will be, but it's easy to predict the spin the media will try to put on it...

Like Jerk said...guns guns guns and little to say about the sick fuck who used them. Jerk I think you ought to pare your friendlist a little.

The majority of Tea Party members are white racists.

You're safe on this one Tritone. Blacks are rarely deep enough thinkers to catch the serious crazy- DC sniper excluded.

An insult buried in a compliment.

P.S. - I was actually surprised the D.C. Sniper team turned out to be brothers. I mean I was just certain -- "white guy!".

Liberals are pedophiles.

And you should be allowed to say that, T. Spree killers like that are usually honkies. We've had shootings two days in a row here (thankfully nobody got killed) and the Toronto shootings. I should be allowed to say 'minorities' without people freaking out.

If people on the right would not always get confused about their upbringing, the net would be no fun.

I don't really identify with the Right. But right now I'm fuming how these Liberal cunts beat the drums for gun control.

Maybe if the citizens of France had the right to bear arms in 1940, Hitler wouldn't have shit all over them like a two dollar whore.

How about profiling motherfuckers who are nuts and lock them up.

Even more cryptic than usual...unintelligibly so.

I was sure the DC Sniper was a white guy, too. You blacks are not without your serial criminals by any means but you are light in the whack-job capital criminal department. You had a serial killer in the Atlanta area a few years back plus the DC guys who were actually respectable shots.

This of course does not address the genocide going on in Detroit and West Africa but I digress. Blacks killing each other off by the scores doesn't qualify for crazy, apparently.

That was Tatty, but I agree with the sentiments.

If the guy didn't have access to guns, and he started tossing Molotov cocktails around, would they start a Gasoline Control campaign? If he drove a Sentra through a crowd, would Nissan be sued?

These anti gun nuts are nothing but fear mongers. If guns were eradicated, these people wouldn't go away and lose the revenue creating machine they created, they'd just come up with a new product for everyone to fear.

And to see a headline that Bloomberg is calling for more gun control makes me sick. That elitist fuck wants the only people in his fiefdom of NYC to be cops and his personal security force. Even totally legal gun owners there get jerked around constantly to try and get them to lose the right. Paperwork for your permit renewal gets "held up in the mail" then after the lapse, they show up at your door to search. I hope Bloomberg gets AIDS from whatever rent boy he's fucking.

Lou hit the nail on the head, there is no defense for a lone wack job, we just have to accept that.

Nope. Wrong, wrong, wrong:) Serial killers tend to test out lower than average. The guy wielding the hatchet is most likely a mouth breather, not Sir Anthony Hopkins.

And there are quite a few black serial killers. Apparently Justin Cottrell has a book, "Rise of the Black Serial Killer" that debunks a lot of myths about black serial killers.

That reads strangely realistic, Jerky. Explosive topic, nassim.

That's not true, Tritone. That's what's been told to you by the same people who reported that James Holmes was a Tea Partier. If they're wrong about that, why wouldn't you be suspicious about the premise that Tea Partiers are racist?

Yes, the Tea Party is almost 80% white, but so is America. White equates to racist as much as black equates to criminal.

Why do so many white dudes wanna see white whores getting railed by black cock?

I like Batman, I like Walking Dead, but when real tragedy strikes close to home or something like this happens, it really drives home how silly some of these movies and television shows are.

Gotcha- apparently the number of serial killers follows population percentage lines, hence less black serial killers.

Who is in the lead on modern-day genocide?

Yeah, to be honest, my wheelhouse is fraud. The myth of the criminal genius has become a pet peeve of mine. If you read Frank Abagnale's autobiography really carefully, you'll realize that he could have gotten a pilots license in less time than it took him to learn how to impersonate an airline pilot. Most criminal hackers are con-artists with slightly above average coding skills, not Lex Luthor. Serial killers, same thing.

All well and good, nassim. It was an allusion to what looks like a spelling error in one of your posts here.

The counter argument to this would be that the really smart ones aren't getting caught and the really, really smart ones haven't rang the serial killer bell at their local police department or FBI offices.

I just wish all of these "angry at teh' government, and crazy enough to do something about it" guys would take their act to capital hill. I guarantee you if 12 congressmen died and 50 were wounded, the economy would turn around in a matter of weeks.

It's folks like Bornyo's fault for supporting the repeal of the assault rifle ban in 2004.

Folks like me had dick to do with that stupid law. The ban was self-expiring, and it died a natural death.

McVeigh killed more people than this guy and Jared Loughner combined...times ten.

Didn't use a gun now did he?

This guy Holmes was methodical. He planned this for a while,including booby traps at his apartment.

Somewhere along the line he decided that people needed to die and that he was the guy for the job. Lack of guns wouldn't have stopped anything.


Might've been a bigger body count if he'd gone the fertilizer bomb route.

Charin's not really that stupid, Spunko, he's just flinging shit against the wall for arguments sake.

Just a few observations...though some have already been touched on:

1. The root problem isn't guns or gun control...it really is the state of our mental health system in this country & the stigma attached to it. Reagan really fucked up the system that was in place & it never recovered really. Too many people fall through the cracks, & only after something like this happens does everyone who knew the perp come out and say that so-and-so was a weirdo or a freak. People like that need to be addressed & get treatment BEFORE they do something like that. We need to be more proactive & address the root cause...instead of always being reactive. I know it's easier said than done...but it is what it is.

2. It's not a Batman thing either. It would logically seem that he simply targeted that movie because he knew it would be a packed theater as it was the premier...thus he'd have more targets.

3. It's important to remember that we are talking about a DARK movie theater that was filled with SMOKE at the time. The perp was prepared, and he had the right equipment to overcome the environment. He was wearing "a black ballistic or bullet-resistant helmet, a ballistic tactical vest with pockets, ballistic leggings, throat and groin protectors, a gas mask and ballistic tactical gloves." So, given the totality of the circumstances, I don't see how people in the theater packing heat would have helped things. On the contrary, I believe anyone who would have returned fire would have only made matters worse due to the fact that there was little/no visibility and the theater was packed and things were rather crazy at the time. If anything, more innocent people would likely have ended up getting shot in the process.

4. Finally, on the gun control issue...I don't support full bans, but I do believe some happy medium needs to be found. Unfortunately groups like the NRA and their supporters will never go for it, and nuts like this guy will again be able to amass an arsenal with the simplest of ease. I mean, what individual legitimately needs to buy at least 4 different guns (2 hand, 1 shotgun, and a Smith & Wesson AR-15) AND nearly 6000 round of ammo, in a 60 day period of time? It was similar to what happened in the Virginia Tech shooting...the shooter started amassing a stockpile right before the shooting.

I don't know about anyone else, but unless you are a dealer, I would have to say that amassing an arsenal in such a brief period of time should raise a red flag that the person has "something" planned. Anyway, I believe reasonable limits should be put in place...but sadly that is subjective, and it would be hard to reach a consensus anyway. Furthermore, there are always ways around things. Though in this case, and the VA Tech shooting, the perps bought their weapons from dealers, and passed the background checks...there is no background checks requirement for private sales and private sales at gun shows usually.

So, long story short, no amount of gun control legislation will stop a nut who is Hell bent and determined to pull something. Truly disturbed people always seem to find a way. Hell this guy even dabbled in explosives too. That's why, though guns sure as Hell make it easier...they are not the root cause of the problem. The root cause of the problem is the individual nuts who do things like this, the state of our mental health system, and the number of people who are seemingly are on people's radar, but never get the help they so clearly need UNTIL AFTER they pull something...if even then.

Knee jerk reactions are not the answer. We don't need to turn our movie theaters into fortresses now. We need to turn our attentions to the individuals who are likely to pull things like this, and address them and their "issues" BEFORE they act in such a horrific and heinous manner. We need to make help readily available, & work toward removing the negative stigma that is attached to mental health and seeking treatment. Sadly, in a society where our prisons are used as the modern mental hospitals (except minus the actual treatment...Hell, they can't even make you take your meds), I don't see things getting any better...on the contrary, I only see them getting worse.

Legislation & more security aren't the answers...individual treatment is. Unfortunately, I'm sure we are likely to see more of the prior and little, or none, of the the latter. Hey, that's how we roll...break out a box of band-aids to deal with things instead of actually addressing the REAL problem.

Now it's actually a beautiful day here in Kentucky for a change...so I'm actually going to go out and enjoy life.

Living in fear isn't the answer either...though I am still getting over the culture shock. There are more crazy people here than I expected...BUT, they are seemingly all white! Ha ha ha!

Will you be going to enjoy yourself in the bushes at Nikki Nova's home?

Re:banning assault rifles & the NRA not being reasonable. Given what the feds have done with the commerece clause, it isn't unreasonable to think spudguns would get redefined as assault rifles with the right "precedent" in place.

We have a right to bear arms, period. It's not the governments nor your right to pass judgement on "why" I want them or what I may or may not be planning, how or what kind I buy or how quickly I buy them. Lets say I bought a lottery ticket for the first time and won. I'd buy a LOT of firearms, as well as other things. Would not mean I was planning some sick shit like this. Sick people do sick things and they find a way to make them happen.

As to this somehow being Reagan's fault...for shame. I've read posters here suggest the true solution to other posters here. To wit: "Your parents should have taken you on a picnic as a child and beat your skull in with a rock to prevent your drain on society". Now that would fix it. If the parents cared.

Just read the dude took 100mg of vicodin prior to this act. Ban Vicodin and all other related painkillers! Might as well get aspirin while we're at it.

He was a brilliant college student too. Lock up all the smart people!

Makes as much sense.

@cocksucker: It's news because innocents getting popped is only considered the price of doing business amongst you people. Are the black folk in the Tea Party movement racists too? Or are they not "black enough" for you?

I was surfing all the news channels today and Krauthammer was the only one I saw talking about mental illness and how we treat the mentally ill. It's a little early, tho, but it sounds like this kid maintained the normal mask pretty well. The shooter in Arizona was a time bomb that everyone around him knew would go off. From the sounds of things, this guy never caused anyone trouble. Which leads us back to what Lou said. We live in a free society, and sometimes evil raises it's ugly head from out of nowhere.

Shitty day all around. We're going to see the movie tomorrow.

Was Tony Batman shot? The title of this thread is misleading.

No I think he shot a bunch of people... that's how I took it.

I'll bet money they start digging up a paper trail on this kid.