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#55963 - 09/16/04 09:19 PM
Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Sex?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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http://www.dir.ca.gov/DOSH/AdultFilmIndustry.html#hhLet it be known, and stated clearly: Once upon a time... ...in the early 2000's... Rapists ran porn. Those days ended today. While it is true that victims of rape, incest, parental neglect and abuse may flock to porn... ...after today... You rapists, you murderers, you abusers... ...you will not be allowed... ...by financial constraint... ...to prey on these angry souls anymore. Cal/OSHA spoke today. It is only the FIRST agency that will do so. Don't say I didn't warn ya. Have a lovely day, y'all. It's high time the rapists left porn, and the talent was protected. Let's get back to fucking, and having fun. Death has no place in porn, or sex. Your world changed today, folks. Let the era of 'Englightened Porn' begin, as the era of 'Medieval Porn' comes to a bloody end. The Outsider
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#55965 - 09/16/04 09:22 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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...in the early 2000's...
Rapists ran porn.
Love your work. Big fan!
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#55966 - 09/16/04 09:23 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/04
Posts: 8662
Loc: In a k1ng like state of medioc...
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No big toe in the shallow end with outside, he bombs right into the deep end. I prefer the one that quote nick and jessica instead of the crazy preacher one, but hey what are you going to do?.
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in the early 2000's...
Rapists ran porn.
Name names
Edited by smelly monkey (09/16/04 09:25 PM)
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#55967 - 09/16/04 09:33 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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It's time people stopped getting hurt, and people started making porn that people like me, who are NOT rapists, might actually enjoy.
Let the hating begin.
I'm not concerned about names, Mr. Monkey.
I'm concerned about stopping other people from getting hurt.
Incrimination is NOT necessary here.
Change is.
The Outsider
Edited by The Outsider (09/16/04 09:35 PM)
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#55970 - 09/16/04 09:38 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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It's time people stopped getting hurt, and people started making porn that people like me, who are NOT rapists, might actually enjoy.
Let the hating begin.
I'm not concerned about names, Mr. Monkey.
I'm concerned about stopping other people from getting hurt.
Incrimination is NOT necessary here.
Change is.
The Outsider
Completly weak, give us names to backup your statements of there being rapists... or I will be forced to assume there are none.
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#55972 - 09/16/04 09:49 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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Names aren't important, folks.
Fines are.
There's no need to fill our already filled prisons, and clog up our legal system with cases.
What needed to happen has happened.
It's only the tip of the iceberg, too.
We aren't going to put these folks in prison, you see.
We're going to make them change their behavior.
And we're going to hit them where they live...
...in their pocketbooks.
The Outsider
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#55973 - 09/16/04 09:55 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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We aren't going to put these folks in prison, you see.
We're going to make them change their behavior.
And we're going to hit them where they live...
Who is we? Is we John Ashcroft and his neo-nazi power rangers of doom?
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#55975 - 09/16/04 10:06 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/06/03
Posts: 214
Loc: Calipornia
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The governmental powers that be know that if another HIV outbreak comes to light...
...They will be held accountable.
They will be asked why they did not do something.
Since I happen to be a taxpayer, and I happen to agree with with my political representation is doing, and has to do...
...I happen to use 'we' as an inclusive term relating to a body of thought.
I told all of you a long, long time ago that this would come to pass.
And through lobbying, and not violence, it has.
How does one lobby, you ask?
Once voices an opinion.
Even when everyone seems to be against it.
Technology is a wonderful thing, folks.
Technology can hide condoms, dental dams, and all the stuff listed on the Cal/OSHA website.
Here's some advice:
Learn how to use it, so you can still sell DVD's.
And if you think Federal OSHA is going to let you shoot in other states and countries...
...you might want to rethink that.
Learn to use technology now to overcome your obstacles, and you will survive.
Continue to buck the giant 50 foot wave coming toward you...
...and you will not.
It's really that simple.
The Outsider
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#55976 - 09/16/04 10:15 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
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The governmental powers that be know that if another HIV outbreak comes to light......They will be held accountable. They will be asked why they did not do something. Since I happen to be a taxpayer, and I happen to agree with with my political representation is doing, and has to do......I happen to use 'we' as an inclusive term relating to a body of thought. I told all of you a long, long time ago that this would come to pass. And through lobbying, and not violence, it has. How does one lobby, you ask? Once voices an opinion. Even when everyone seems to be against it. Technology is a wonderful thing, folks. Technology can hide condoms, dental dams, and all the stuff listed on the Cal/OSHA website. Here's some advice: Learn how to use it, so you can still sell DVD's. And if you think Federal OSHA is going to let you shoot in other states and countries......you might want to rethink that. Learn to use technology now to overcome your obstacles, and you will survive. Continue to buck the giant 50 foot wave coming toward you......and you will not. It's really that simple. The Outsider
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#55977 - 09/16/04 10:16 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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Technology can hide condoms, dental dams, and all the stuff listed on the Cal/OSHA website.
Ohh well, better give up real porn and turn to Maya, 3D Studio Max and Bryce for all producing needs.
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#55978 - 09/16/04 10:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
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Technology can hide condoms, dental dams, and all the stuff listed on the Cal/OSHA website.
Ohh well, better give up real porn and turn to Maya, 3D Studio Max and Bryce for all producing needs.
Actually, there is a brand of condom that, when lit properly, barely registers on video. I used that once. But then, those were the days of S-VHS. I don´t know how they´ll fare with DV.
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#55979 - 09/16/04 10:31 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 688
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Don't worry The Outsider will get what's coming to him.
This picture is a little taste into The Outsider's future.
God can only hope his present isn't already like this. 
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#55981 - 09/16/04 11:00 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 688
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Nope, Your are wrong. I didn't search for it. It was on a forum thread in fubar. It said do not open this. But since I was curious I opened it. And then I threw up a little in my mouth after seeing the pic. I'm just glad to pass the happy joy joy around. 
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#55982 - 09/16/04 11:02 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/30/03
Posts: 5869
Loc: Instead of looking at the girl...
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#55983 - 09/16/04 11:07 PM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 688
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No problem.
All she has to do is look at Smartt's disgusting prune skinned tiny weiner and she was die immediately from disgust.
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#55984 - 09/17/04 03:58 AM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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No problem.
All she has to do is look at Smartt's disgusting prune skinned tiny weiner and she was die immediately from disgust.
or laughter 
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#55985 - 09/17/04 04:47 AM
Re: Will Your Company Be Able To Pay For Unsafe Se
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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The governmental powers that be know that if another HIV outbreak comes to light...
...They will be held accountable.
They will be asked why they did not do something.
Since I happen to be a taxpayer, and I happen to agree with with my political representation is doing, and has to do...
...I happen to use 'we' as an inclusive term relating to a body of thought.
I told all of you a long, long time ago that this would come to pass.
And through lobbying, and not violence, it has.
How does one lobby, you ask?
Once voices an opinion.
Even when everyone seems to be against it.
Technology is a wonderful thing, folks.
Technology can hide condoms, dental dams, and all the stuff listed on the Cal/OSHA website.
Here's some advice:
Learn how to use it, so you can still sell DVD's.
And if you think Federal OSHA is going to let you shoot in other states and countries...
...you might want to rethink that.
Learn to use technology now to overcome your obstacles, and you will survive.
Continue to buck the giant 50 foot wave coming toward you...
...and you will not.
It's really that simple.
The Outsider
How does an organization establish a precedent over an industry that for all intensive purposes is legally viewed as ambiguous?
The definition of what porn is will have to be established first before it can be regulated by any government agency.
The current administration does not want a definition of porn because they do not want it around in any form.
Defining it will legalize some aspect of it and they don’t want that.
I thank you nonetheless for deciding for me and everyone else what porn we should and should not like.
Thank you once again Porn Nazi.
On another note, you post here hinting at the fact you consider JM Studios rapists but don’t have the balls to just say it outright or give an explanation as to why.
This makes you a piece of shit.
See you in hell.
The Have2cit
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#55986 - 09/17/04 04:58 AM
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Pervert
Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 2211
Loc: TX
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How does an organization establish a precedent over an industry that for all intensive purposes is legally viewed as ambiguous?
The definition of what porn is will have to be established first before it can be regulated by any government agency.
I disagree - in this case, its about workplace and employee vs. independant contractor (most people considered independant contractors by their employer are really employees in the eyes of the law). They don't have to define porn. Its just workplace safety. I'm also willing to bet that every state has similar regulations that could lead to similar fines or actions.
Oh, and typically its not a definition of porn but a definition of obscenity that they need to set when dealing with a porn company.
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#55987 - 09/17/04 05:14 AM
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 12/22/03
Posts: 1715
Loc: Everything for the people, not...
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maybe Swami is the Outsider....
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#55988 - 09/17/04 06:13 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
Posts: 9113
Loc: red dirt state of mind
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I disagree - in this case, its about workplace and employee vs. independant contractor (most people considered independant contractors by their employer are really employees in the eyes of the law). They don't have to define porn. Its just workplace safety. I'm also willing to bet that every state has similar regulations that could lead to similar fines or actions.
Oh, and typically its not a definition of porn but a definition of obscenity that they need to set when dealing with a porn company.
Any government regulation of porn lends legitimacy to the industry as a whole. Current administration won't care much for that.
Porn/obscenity just semantics. Just as the difference between independent and independant I still understood what you meant.
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#55990 - 09/17/04 06:45 AM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 03/12/03
Posts: 2458
Loc: I'm the fucker behind the curt...
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I fail to see Tony´s logic.
Morons get banned, forum gets almost paradisiac.
Morons get back, forum turn inhabitable again.
The Outsider was unbanned as part of our Amnesty a few months ago. Don't worry he'll be banned again soon, as I see he still hasn't learned how to form proper paragraphs and sentences.
Malice
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#55992 - 09/17/04 08:02 AM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
Posts: 3178
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Nope,
Your are wrong. I didn't search for it.
It was on a forum thread in fubar. It said do not open this.
But since I was curious I opened it.
And then I threw up a little in my mouth after seeing the pic.
I'm just glad to pass the happy joy joy around.
That's okay, remember I'm the one that posted a girl eating shit out of a dogs ass.
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#55994 - 09/17/04 11:03 AM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/20/04
Posts: 688
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Nope,
Your are wrong. I didn't search for it.
It was on a forum thread in fubar. It said do not open this.
But since I was curious I opened it.
And then I threw up a little in my mouth after seeing the pic.
I'm just glad to pass the happy joy joy around.
That's okay, remember I'm the one that posted a girl eating shit out of a dogs ass.
Thanks for putting that image back in my mind. 
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#55995 - 09/17/04 11:11 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 07/12/04
Posts: 165
Loc: Mars
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It's time people stopped getting hurt, and people started making porn that people like me, who are NOT rapists, might actually enjoy.
Let the hating begin.
I'm not concerned about names, Mr. Monkey.
I'm concerned about stopping other people from getting hurt.
Incrimination is NOT necessary here.
Change is.
The Outsider
I shall not be able to refer to Smelly Monkey as Mr. Monkey anymore, I thought I had invented it's use but apparently it is not so and I do not want to share with you outsider 
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#55997 - 09/20/04 09:58 AM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 22
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I'm pretty sure they are neither, i think they are artists so they should fine themselves then sue themselves further more in our biz directors aren't directing the artists, they are directing the crew (cameras n crap) so the crew falls partly into that "employee" category so every one except the "artists" should be made to dress up in latex suits with full body armor, and lanyards as well as wear helmets and anyone operating a camera within 83.2 cm of the core should have to use scuba gear with a re-breather installed. all sets should have a padded floor and any gear harder than (an) angry cock should be coated in gel or wrapped in pillows,,, also foul or abusive language on porno sets will not be tolerated because emotional injury can bring about the need for expensive and time consuming therapy. Only then will we be able to be fully satisfied that the government has truly protected "employees" in the porno biz, in other news:
Since 1924, 160 California Department of Transportation employees have been killed on the job. One of the biggest hazards is from motorists who do not exercise caution while driving where highway workers are present. In 1995, three Caltrans employees were killed and 54 injured by errant motorists in active construction and maintenance work zones. In 1996, there were no fatalities but plenty of close calls -- 24 employees were injured by errant vehicles. In 1997, four employees were killed and two wounded by an angry ex-worker at an Orange County maintenance station. The years 1998 and 1999 added two employee deaths in each year to the growing list of employees who have died on the job.
Caltrans Worker Fatalities: 161
(Does not include contractors' employees)
and there are a lot of them
well im sure glad the state know how to keep people safe that record is a shining example of a government hard at work,,,
BTW, i didn't find any mortality statistics for work related deaths in porn but i think there must have been some right...
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#56001 - 09/21/04 05:18 PM
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ADT regular
Registered: 08/05/04
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#56003 - 09/22/04 11:25 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 1683
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i would rather be in porn then working on a freeway in california (statistically safer)... the point is cal-osha would be better served concentrating on industries that actually are failing at being safe like starting with their own. then once they established they could succeed at creating a safe working environment maybe it would be ok to start pointing the finger at other industries that are succeeding (by comparison) so far...
Okay. Neither of us, I take it, are working on a freeway crew. But you use the expression "in porn," which makes it unclear if you're working behind the camera or in front of it. This is explicitly about working in front of the camera, since the issue here is talent's risk.
If working for the California Highway authority or whatever they call it out there is anything like working for Chicago's Streets and Sans, there's no comparison. In Ed Norton vs. Starla Sparkletits, Ed Norton kicks ass. In Streets and Sans, he gets:
1. A Union. A bad-ass union, too.
2. A pension, underwritten by the government, and thus extremely likely to be available when you retire. Streets and Sans has been loaded with ghost-employees and other unique features of Chicago city government for decades, and their pension is under no threat of insolvency.
3. Workman's Compensation. There will be a number of fatal accidents but thousands of non-fatal ones. I'll still be getting paid when I'm recouping.
4. An hourly wage far above what one would expect from what is essentially manual labor (see #1).
5. Health insurance.
6. The esteem, or at least not the recriminations, of society.
Sorry. From Streets and Sans I'd make $35,000 this year, with a damn good chance of getting nothing more than a split nail and a stinky smell to my boots. From porn I might make twice that, have no job when I'm thirty, no health insurance unless I'm with one of the contract companies, no union benefits, etc etc etc.
All that vs. the statistical possibility I could be hit by a car, and more money temporarily, for a job that goes kaput when botox stops wiping away my wrinkles. Oh, and free drugs in exchange for fucking troglodytes off camera.
If you want to be cool and analytical, you'll have to do better than that. My personality would make me a misfit in Streets and Sanitation, so I personally wouldn't work there. But these arguments are the kinds of things that pot smokers say when they're passing a bong and complaining about the government making taxes off of alcohol. They're not totally without validity, but they don't change the fundamental facts.
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#56004 - 09/30/04 02:45 PM
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Stormy's Lawyer
Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 22
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ive worked (and do work) in front of the camera occasionally. however usually not, usually production or post. so that covered every position possible am i qualified? wow 35,000 last year awesome i think i made over 1/2 your annual salary last month (give or take) (some months ive made it all). if you dont believe me send me your email addy and ill scan my bank statement then send it to you. so yeah as an independant contractor i might have to pay my own pension, and insurance, and i dont have a union but obviously i dont need one, a good chick in the biz can make a lot of money and she should consider as a business person how to best look after herself, ""If you want to be cool and analytical, you'll have to do better than that. My personality would make me a misfit in Streets and Sanitation, so I personally wouldn't work there. But these arguments are the kinds of things that pot smokers say when they're passing a bong and complaining about the government making taxes off of alcohol"" if you need to be baby sat by society maybe then maybe union jobs are for you, but they aren't for everybody, BTW, i dont smoke pot, nor do i drink alcohol so im not really worried about the taxation of those products. so back to the point: the point is cal-osha would be better served concentrating on industries that actually are failing at being safe like starting with their own. sorry it took me so long to reply, (im very busy) thanks bro!!! 
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#56006 - 10/01/04 03:44 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/17/04
Posts: 6005
Loc: travieso capital management an...
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hypothetical situation, meet mike. mike meet hypothetical situation.
people from dem elite midwestern law schools tend to use that kind of sophistry and those tricky sentences, but here's a hint...
"Okay. Neither of us, I take it, are working on a freeway crew."
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