I thought he meant times were so bad whores were working as valets now !

I told you so.

Right. The importance of XPT is now predicated on a thread about pics taken from other websites. I liked it better the first time, when it was called Freeones.

I put in plenty of posts, if you'd like a list of some of my stuff, let me know. But you made my point: most posters have now resorted to adding to some really dead issues, Danny Dearmond, ad nauseam. No one is writing anything worth reading. No snarky porn event review threads, it's all just very mediocre.

Oh, I did plenty of that, and enjoyed it. Except I rarely did it unless it was called for. Like when Katja showed up here, loudly declaring she would never be a hooker (good move on her part) only to find out she was turning tricks the whole time (worth of enormous bashing). Or Sierra Sinn, who was actually funny most of the time (cool), only to hear she once intentionally took a shit on Flower Tucci in retaliation for Flower doing it to her (just...WTF?)

I put in plenty of time here, as my post count suggests There were always tards and trolls in here: Cow, Mike Meatmaster, PenisPumpCharley, DrPornz. But there were also people putting in a decent effort. I just don't see that effort any more. I could be completely wrong, it's just my casual observation.

And for the record, h2c was around here since 2004 or so. Burg once made some ridiculously long post, likely about splooge and Holly Randall, which crashed the server. h2c tried to post after it and it killed his account. Malice got most of his posts back, but could never fix the reg date. So blame it on Burg.

Shit, the things I remember in here.

The 3 new mods are doing OK, I was concerned about having mean spirited right wing bigots as mods, but they seem to take out the garbage OK. Not much to the job, really.

I don't think h2c or Bornyo are power tripping or trying to turn things into ADT with the attempt to return TFH to a place where whores can post without getting chewed up. I do find it strange that 3 people seemed to blow a gasket over it.

HOLY FUCK. I'm going to reply to this in a calm tone, so it doesn't resemble my asshole rants. I only want to be an asshole here, if I am wrong. You be the judge.



Ha ha ha. So XPT's importance is not based on the traffic it gets. Instead, according to your previous post, the importance of this site is based on if a pathetic, ALLEGED alcoholic, tarot card reader quotes it?? Gotcha. We won't go into the credibility of that guy and his site here. I will say this though, that guy is a day quicker on a story than Darrah was, which makes him 3 days behind everyone else.



I wasn't asking about your posts, I have seen you call Tritone a "spook" many times, under many aliases. I'm asking what have you created to try to drum up either traffic or interest, in the last 6months to a year. I'll take it via PM, if you want. Pride is shit, I'll eat my words publicly if I have to.



Really, snarky porn event reviews are NOT mediocre? The only person that posts here, that has gone to a porn event recently is Gia. In case you haven't caught on, the industry is too small nowadays for her to risk being snarky about the active players. I don't blame her. If the whores are having trouble finding work, I would imagine it is harder for a photographer.



Mmmmm. My inbox got flooded w/ screenshots of posts and database info, but I want to keep the argument about this site. Pass.



Put in a decent effort? You should have had that thought when you went after figgs for pic posts, knowing he wouldn't engage you. Shoulda gone after me or have2, we are just as guilty AND game for a throw down.



There is the problem man, you are living in 2004 and hoping it will never end. What is there, 1/2 the porn industry now that there was then? And 2/3 of that is owned by Manwin? You think if JM was still hiring there would be more industry people here, dishing dirt and getting quoted on the blogs?

What is the number, 3? Is that how many people active in the porn industry we have regularly posting here? Brandon, Gia, and Fartz (he works in a jack shack).

Then add in the economy. Wasn't that long after it tanked that the traffic here started rapidly disappearing.

I do hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the glory days are gone. There is no magic needle that is going to bring back the zip on the fastball. We are in Gaylord Perry mode, scuffing and spitting, trying to have some fun. If that aint your game...the door's over there.

I had to check my old webmail account and I got the sign up email in September of 03. Although I spent most of the years through 07 gone for months at a time in some God forsaken rat hole that either didn't have internet or wouldn't allow a connection to any site with the word porn in the address.





Libertarianism isn't conservatism, nor is it farmers in Kansas buying bacon with silver coins. The truth isn't bigotry, no matter how much the left would like to make it so in order to keep people from uttering it. And yes I can be a big fucking prick, so what? Three meltdowns for the effort of one. A bargain even Panzer can appreciate.

That entire post is gold, Jerk, but this stood out in particular.

Thank you. That post took a long while, half the time fucking around trying to make the quotes work right.

I'll keep it short:



You're completely entitled to that opinion. Now, go back to fondling your dog.


Willie D. --> Stop posting. You were at the helm of a part of this ship when traffic began to decrease. Where was your effort? In the 3.5 years I've been here, you didn't post anything worth reading nor did you generate any traffic with your 'efforts'.

I'm wondering where the responsibility for generating traffic or post views fell to the moderators?

I thought, by definition, a moderators job was to moderate the content posted by, you guessed it: The Posters. And a good moderator would never be seen nor heard from in a perfect forum.

I kinda signed on to do housecleaning duties and try to organize things a little, according to their intended place. And especially to clean up the lately contested TFH Forum. I didn't expect to carry the mail for the board. Y'all are free to post most anything, I just want to make sure it goes where it belongs.

This thread sounds like a bunch of junior-high girls arguing in a bathroom.

Nah, your scenario might lead to a boner. This thread leads to nothing except butthurt.

I've been relatively quiet about all of this retarded shit, but I agree with Jerkules post about the state of the industry reflecting the state of the board. I don't understand how a more active industry dictated the right to make fun of it. Jeff fucking Steward is famous for what line now? Oh yeah, "whores lie". Now that we're down to talking about Manwin and Steve Hirsch, is it less appropriate to at least try and find something to make fun of in this ridiculous fucking business? I'll stay out of Talent For Hire. That's fine. I'm just waiting for the swerve. There's a swerve, right?

It's not the responsibility of the moderators. If that's the message you got from my post, I didn't put it right.

Willie D. ought not point fingers or assign blame for the 'decline' (if there actually is any) of this board. He has been here, posting, moderating, stirring things and what not, for more than six years. Apparently, his presence wasn't enough to avoid the decline, let alone reverse it.

Every message board gets the traffic and posters it deserves. At the moment, it seems XPT deserves 20 or so active posters and not an enormous amount of traffic (I didn't check and I don't care). The comparison of the current state with a situation of 4-8 years ago is simplistic and irrelevant. Too many parameters have changed to even begin making that comparison (mobile internet, bandwidth, amount of other porn-related forums, etc.).

My two pennies is that some people did go too far at times in the past and should know better that they'd scare some girls away. What else would you expect?

Secondly, I'm not around much anymore because I was gone long enough to fall out of the loop. More than half the stuff on here makes no sense to me. So why waste my time, wasting your time trying when all I'll ever do is look like an idiot.

Does that mean we aren't getting any candy canes for Christmas this year?

I posted those pics on a couple sites, along with links to generizer. I'll do the same next year, if you give us some holiday snaps.

I may do more candy canes for ya... and then some!

Fuck. How did I miss these pictures?

Cqd, are you serious???

Scroll to the bottom.
http://forum.jerkoffzone.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=500889&page=7

Yes I'm serious.

And why the fuck would anyone use less than 99 posts per page?
Scrolling down gets me to a post made today.

That thread has 3 pages for me.

Thanks I will look for the posts.

it's 12/20/11.

How far is ALLEGED alkie shithead Gene behind w/ a story???



http://www.adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=54671

6/12/2012: Gene reports on it
6/08/2012: Story was posted on LIB and revealed here
5/30/2012: She posted her blog on the ordeal

My apologies to Darrah. Gene is no faster than she was.

This clown is your benchmark? Did the dude need 2 weeks to sober up enough to type? Did he have to get his tarot cards back from the pawnshop, in order to do the story properly?

AAAAAAAND, the A-hole linked LIB, but never mentioned XPT. The story isn't worth reading as is, but w/o XPT's contributions, it wouldn't even be worth shamelessly regurgitating, as he did.

Suck it.

Let's keep in mind that the post was self started by someone who needed to show he was being picked on by the big ol meanies that keep the Beautiful Souls away.

As for getting BSs here, the thing I think that's getting lost here is that forums in general are falling out of favor. Have you noticed that tweet dialect isn't used here? For the most part, we spell correctly, our writing is coherent. For the most part. For a pw to be on this board, to really participate, would be a huge amount of time in comparison to the 30 seconds it takes to tweet out 16 characters about where they went drinking or to court.

On that note, your average pw newb, who is trying to get their name out, has how many thousand Facebook friends. And more followers on Twitter. Or whatever the contact media of the day is. Versus...um, how many of us are there? Add to that most pw are girls in their 18- mid20s. With loads of disposable income and a need to be seen. They have to have the most FB friends, the most Twitter followers.

The reason they don't come here, oh mighty mod, is that we have absolutely nothing to offer them. It doesn't matter how kiss ass we are to them. We can laugh at ADT, but the fact is they have more opportunities to connect with fans that will not only buy their vids, but more importantly, buy their merch...And most importantly of all, fill their Amazon wishlists or send cash or gift cards directly to them, in an unreportable to the kind of IRS way. Have any of you mods bought webcam shows or sent money to a pw? Have any of us? We have nothing to offer them.

For this dying medium to attract them, there has to be a fundamental change of this group. And that change would include very few of us. The mods included.

So, where do our 3 active pws fit into this? Just guessing, but I think Gia is a long timer and enjoys the company. Gen, same thing. Old school Yahoo Groups person. It's how she started in the business, if I recall right her talking about it. And she seems to like the company. MF? She's either batshit crazy or working us in Andy Kaufmannesque comedy angle. They're here for the same reason the rest of us are.

We are a very insignificant little corner of the interwebs, no matter what we believe we are.

Any discussion group is little more than the makeup of it's members, no matter what direction the owners/ managers/ mods want it to be. The 800lb gorilla in the room is that this is a porn forum in name only. We're just a bunch of weirdos that spout off hate, our weird bigotry, the little insignificant shit we have in our daily lives that for whatever reason we've decided we're safe to vent about here. It's where we go when our pets die. It's where we go to brag about new cars, deals we've made, hassles with the mailman.

So you can alienate the people who participate here for the sake of some ideal you have for this place. Chase all the nay sayers away. It still won't get pws to participate here. Sorry, but someone had to say it.

^^^Word up. Word the fuck up.

Interesting.

I have been prone to say that Barry is too wordy at times. This is not one of those times. That was good. Worth every word.

I'm not all into noob bashing, but I do feel neutered when I ask for a whore to post a pic of her asshole, she gives us a Dorito & vibrator shot, and I can't give a proper response. Bad ass anal whore, huh?

I've said it before, but with JM not hiring talent, no talent is going to post in the Whore Safe Zone trying to get noticed. Who was the last legit talent that posted in there looking for work? The Florida whore in jail for murder, like 3 years ago?

P.S. The Tarot Alkie ran the same story 2 days apart. I hate to give the sumbitch clicks, but it is funny how pathetic he is.

http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=55014

http://adultfyi.com/read.php?ID=55002

It is too bad that XPT isn't relevant enough for him to mention.

actually it was the mature blonde with the tits.cant remember her name right now.

Hell, I think I'm wordy. But the truth is the truth and sometimes it takes a bit to get out.

As for noobs are we talking newbs or pw newbs? I'm the first to admit I'll jump on a newb poster just for giggles. But if they can't hang, they can't hang.

We have fewer than 10,000 members here. How many of that 10,000 have even logged in within the last year? Yeah, this can compete with 25,000 followers to the lowliest of low pws. If we were just nicer. Bullshit.

We are what we are. The best case scenario is you'll drive away the people who do contribute.

And if it's a money thing to keep the board running, well, if it can't sustain itself, maybe it needs not to exist.

And it is a money thing, isn't it? There's really no other reason for the gyrations the Keepers of the Dragon have been putting themselves through.

I meant newb posters. You take a guy like Fartz. He lurked forever, before being coaxed in here. How many other quality posters you think are out there, but don't want to deal with fighting off a hazing.

<<Lurkers out there. Just jump in with something legit funny, or with some fire in your belly. Everyone will probably give you sometime, trying to figure out if you are an alt.>>

Steve either is too busy or doesn't give a shit to update or fix things that can lead to money coming in. The internet video rentals link to Bush DVD is just listed as bushdvd.com with no affiliate specific URL, there is one for Sugar DVD above it.

http://forum.jerkoffzone.net/home also has links to other retailers on the left side, some but not all have affiliate links, and links to some performers sites. Hannahharper.net and FuckJasmineTame.com don't even exist anymore. There's a few sponsored links at the bottom right. But does anyone who is not a brand new user here go through jerkoffzone.net, then forum.jerkoffzone.net/home/ to work their way into the forums? http://www.cdmovies.us/ doesn't exist anymore, and the listed affiliate link url for Adult DVD Explorer doesn't work, so you have to just go to AdultDVDExplorer.com but there'd be nothing going to JM as a result of any purchase.

Once you're into the forums at or past http://forum.jerkoffzone.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php there's just the JM VOD/download links, the two rental links I mentioned in the paragraph above, and Gossip & News sites. They should all match up and actually be updated.

1) You gotta be the only one to click that shit.

2) Have you told Steve before now? "Hey man, blah blah blah." usually gets a response.

I've mentioned a few things to him before mostly on the forum (none in pm's I think), nothing as detailed as what I posted above.

And unless there is something in their TOS that prohibits adult based sites, why isn't there a link to buy things at Amazon? I must make a few purchases from them a month and can't be the only person here who does.

Amazon even carries some porn, surprisingly even this one, where the Laura Cannon scene has to be one of the most disturbing things I've seen in a film, porn or otherwise. Makes Max look like a light touch.

Only a Benny. Illegal downloads are cheaper.

This thread was started for three reasons. To shunt the melting down away from the Raven Bay thread (it worked partially), as a place to move the rule breaking posts, and as a place to bitch about board policy rather than all over the place.

It doesn't matter how many people post here or how many porn workers choose to post here. The Talent For Hire rules are going to stand. If you don't understand that then just you don't understand that. It's not my problem.

If Sean chooses to enact the same or similar rules in General Porn Talk that is his prerogative, not mine, just like in Talent For Hire, but reading his post, rather than just reacting to it, what he said sounded more like a suggestion to improve overall board traffic, not a hard and fast rule. It's troubling that you're not able to comprehend the difference.

What it comes down to is this, you don't get a say in how the board is run. If you don't like that, then you can vote with your post or lack of posting. It's just that simple.

Barry, it's good to see you back. Glad the crying fit is over. Thank you for reminding me of one of the major reasons I quit smoking pot.

@Jig: Steve has said in the past that he doesn't read the board much. Try putting a list of the broken stuff in a somewhat polite PM or email and see if anything happens.

Don't have a say? Seriously? You really think that, don't you? The forum in general is not about you, or any mod. It's about the people who post (or don't) here. At the risk of being thrown in the hole for 30 days, I can't believe you're this obtuse.

Thanx for not answering a single point I made and went back to the "crying fit" thing. Kinda figured that'd happen. That and the "I'm in charge here" seems to be about all you have as justification. Pathetic.

It's about the people who own the board and the people those owners saw fit to put in charge of the board, but of course you're incapable of understanding that. Which is just one of the side effects of spending half the day in front of the TV with a bong attached to your face.

Teehee. "In charge". You boys are riding an awful tall horse.

Once again, no response to my points. Just insults. It's all you have and it's still pathetic. Will you ever answer them, or do you know you have no answer but insults.

In your perfect world you three will just be talking to each other. Oh, and Steve too. You say I don't understand because I'm a doper. Then what's your excuse, Dirty Harry? The board is dying and you're...well, I honestly don't know what you're doing. But, hey, you know best. You say so, so it must be true. Gods among men, you are.

No you don't understand because you're stupid or maybe just bi-polar. It's just exacerbated by the dope. You don't have any point because you have no say. Yeah, I know you can't grasp that concept, but hold on and listen a little longer before you fall back into the hypnotic gaze of that infomercial again. If you were willing to put your money where your bong is and pay Jeff for the bandwidth your stealing with your 3500+ posts of stoner ramblings, and the hundreds of pictures of shitty smoking accessories, perhaps he would be willing to give you a say.

I can understand having rules and all. But lately, it seems like the attitude and comments are designed to purposely instigate, irritate and to drive people away. "You have no say here. Nyah! Nyah! Nyah!! Deal with it, bitches!"

Actually, you do have a say here Steezo, in all the forums except TFH and even there only a couple of rules have to be observed. But people so drug/drink/mania addled like Barry can't grasp that. It's all or nothing with idiots like that. They don't understand these sort of subtleties. He complains about being called names, after spending the last fifty posts calling me names. How can anyone reason with such a moronic intellect? You have to bludgeon them over the head with harsh words just to get anything through to their myopic fields of personal vision.

So...I'm...stealing bandwidth now? And if I'm stealing "your bandwidth", doesn't that make it mine? Check your spelling when you call someone stupid, Stupid. Or as Clint would say "If you're gonna hang someone, make sure they're dead".

But back to this stealing bandwidth thing. What does that mean, exactly? Aren't we all guilty of that...assuming in this case there is such a thing? Were you stealing bandwidth before you're (spelling so you can understand, Stupid) coronation? Have you paid into the fund? Is there a fund? Or are you just flailing uselessly hoping to God to regain relevance? It's a strawman, because there has never been any "Donate Here" button that I've ever seen. And how do you know I wouldn't contribute? How do we know you would? Or are you putting in sweat equity?

Hundreds of pictures of shitty smoking accessories? Nice shot at an insult, but you fail to understand that any shit you talk about my stuff is still more positive than what I think of the stuff I make. Thanx for playing tho. And hundreds of pictures? 25 maybe...maybe. But that's what this is about, isn't it? I disagree with you and your kind, so it has to turn personal because it's all you have. Your wrong, you're little social experiment is wrong, and deep down you know it. Too bad your so invested in it. You've painted yourself in a corner and the only way you can find to get out is to entrench yourself deeper. But hey, the board's about you, born and lou.

The fact is I made valid points in my long post. You saying it's stoner rambling doesn't change that.

As for Steve giving me a say, I'm a member of this board and I'll have my say until you decide to get rid of me again. I'm sorry if you don't like it. No, scratch that. I couldn't give a fuck whether you, born or lou don't like it.

C'mon, lou. Jump in with your boys and tell me how stupid and stoned I am and all the other insults your brain trust has been throwing my way.

Are you claiming I or any other mod with the power banned you?

Oh shit. Twice in a month I've agreed with charin.

But was Barry banned? He mentioned that he could not log in. havy seems to imply the opposite. What is it?

Good question. Barry, were you banned?

I said you were my favorite way before any of his shit started. I've actually lost track of where this started to be honest but thats not your problem.

anyways...I think I already said this very recently but I can stand alone. it's probably what got me this spot but I'd only be guessing. I never asked for it. point is you'll hear from me on my time unless you actually need something. I'm here to help, ya know?.