Originally Posted By: Barry the Pirate
"Socialism" is just a word to laugh at. All the Socialists didn't just go home after the Soviet Union came down. Failure just means you change your handle and pretend that the previous handle never really existed. I seldom use the terms Communist or Socialist because all it does is give them wiggle room to deny there's any such thing as a Communist. So they can call themselves whatever they want, the ideas, and more importantly the consequences of the ideas, are still the same.



hahahahahaha, speaking of fucking STRAWMAN horseshit. I just LOVE this line of thinking about how ruthless dictatorshits filth like stalin is always used to point to the flaws of a socialized market. (they'll never bring up the messes we caused like the shaw of iran over throw or how about fucking papa doc...we sure love to suck the cock of any old genocidal monster as long as they say they hate the commies) but without degenerating the debate into that road I'll just say this.........your argument seems to point to the same old tired analogy of how "the child like left winger likes to say the pie is finite where in THE REAL WORLD capitalism just makes a bigger pie for every one!!!!!".......All the same time ignoring the inherent REAL WORLD problems of capitalism like externalities, chronism, massive abuse and manipulation of the legal system, crushing small business using lawyers (very un american and anti free market if you ask me) and on and on, which you could find mountains of evidence researched and written by people a billion times smarter than any of us..... you say monsters like Stalin rise as a direct result of socialistic ideal...I say the capitalist system is just as apt to create the same monsters.........once again, people like you who watched some john stossell specials and think they know what the fuck is going on in the world.
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