Their shit from 12 years ago (under the running board, calculating infinity) is still the best and their old singer just sounded like a totally stressed out fuckhead who was about to fall apart any minute. I do like Greg (guy in pics) when he does his ripping off of mike patton type stuff.....if I'm going to listen to warbling emotional crooning in metalcore though I'd much sooner reach for some (older) Today Is The Day records....or just cut out the middle man and listen to the DEP e.p. they actually did with Mike Patton.