Just brought home a new family member. 8 wk old black lab. It's sooner than I expected, but this is a pup from a friends bitch, and the sire is also an incredible dog. Both have championships as do their parents. So, this guy is a thoroughbred.
As usual, he picked me, but he was truly the most laid back of the litter. So far, all he's done "lab-like" is eat. I expect the lab-like shitting and personal property destruction to begin a little later tonight.
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a new pup is the best. is 8 weeks a little early? i think i got my guy at 12. when he croaks, i think i'm gonna get an American Bulldog.
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Yeah there will be pics. I started to post this in "not worth it's own thread" but realized it will probably wind up worth it's own thread. I'll post pictures and stories about the little bugger as he grows up. Right now he's asleep in his crate, chasing birds and grunting like a pig in his sleep.
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What's his name???
Next year I'm getting a dog. Haven't decided if its going to be an inside or outside yet. That is going to help determine the breed.
Enjoy him.
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Eight weeks is generally recognized as ideal. Some people go as early as seven weeks but any earlier than that is not recommended. At eight weeks the Mom's done her part and needs a break, and the pups form a really strong bond to their new family.
As for his name, I'm leaning toward "Scout". I usually wait a day or two for a natural name to suggest itself. We named the last cat we got too soon... she has a name that the vet has on his records for her, but we just call her "little" now. Something always comes up that fits.
cute puppy.maybe name him champ?shadow could be good too.either way looks like lots of fun.
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I knew a pill head that had 2 black labs. One of them got excited one day when they heard the dude get home and he stopped to talk to a neighbor on the front lawn. The lab ran and jumped through his big front bay window in its excitement....a custom window. They were pretty excitable dogs. Its best not to encourage it when they are small since they don't seem to mature mentally as fast as they do physically.
This would be a good time for XPT to recommend dog names.
Cottonpicker Brazilnut Coon Moolie Malice Tritone Ape Onyx Gokun Bukkake
If you are set on a "to Kill A mocking bird" theme...
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I like Boo.
You gonna use him as a retriever or just a pet. Those championships you spoke of, they show or trial?
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Larry is a solid dog name. Jerk, this is where i was looking at AB's when my dog looked like he was gonna check out. They are honest about the dogs they have and you'd be doing dogdom a solid:
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I have a buddy that has done well with adopted dogs.
Outside dog, I think I know the what and where already. If I get an inside dog, I'd probably go the adopted route, and get a small one. Then get an outdoors one in a couple years.
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I appreciate the name suggestions, especially the Mockingbird themed ones, but I think Scout is still up front.
The championships mentioned are field trials, and they are all working dogs. I really just wanted a companion but I think I may try to work this dog (and myself) to full potential and see what he can do. My wife is even encouraging me to do so knowing the time it requires. The force is strong in this one.
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Congrats bornyo. Labs are great fucking dogs when raised properly.
On a related note, I was at this fundraiser thing this weekend, and there was a family there that had a Bloodhound-Labrador service dog that alerts the family when the son has seizures. Just a magnificent-looking dog. He looked like a large lab with long ears, and soft hair that was black with light brown mottled spots in it.
Kind of looked like this guy here, but with darker fur.
A bloodhound-lab mix would make an incredible retriever. I mean, that would be the ideal mix. Labs have good noses and can smell birds in the weeds but nothing like a bloodhound.
I built a kennel for him yesterday while he just slept in the sun. It was hard to imagine all the devious ways the little bastard will devise to get himself out of there.
The little fucker just went to the vet today for the first time on my dime. I took him to his Momma's vet who helped whelp the litter and gave them their first shots, etc.
I was pretty pleased as he got fecal sample probed, poked and physicaled, his first heartworm and flea treatments and dewormed for $59.00. I can deal with that. (also a bag of Science Diet dog food).
He's been going to work with me every day and hangs out in a "crate" I put in my office. Office opinion is divided on the appropriateness of a dog at work but that's just because the naysayers have never been around a good dog. And this is a good dog. The majority of my workday is outside the office anyway, and he is in another crate in my car during that time so his effect on office life is minimal.
I'm going to wait over a year, if possible. I'm not going to let him run loose and impregnate all females in a 5 mile radius, but I would like to breed him if he reaches his potential. The world needs more high quality Labs, not more stupid puppy mill specimens.
Then again, he may go crazy like the one I had before and the only way to manage him will be to have him neutered.
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my guy was going bonkers by the time he hit 5 months; scrapping male dogs left and right, humping anything humpable. It's too bad, cuz i would have liked to have bred him as well.
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My dog hates the science diet. I can only get him to eat it if he is really hungry, then never as much as he should eat, on the other hand he loves the cheaper purina one brand.
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Science Diet is just over priced crap. If you are looking for a good commercial dog food without going raw then look for grain free preferably baked. You won't find it at the grocery store or at a retail pet supplier like Petco. You'll have to look for an independent feed supplier in your area. Its usually easier to find the dog food you want to feed and then check out their website. Most usually have a list of their retailers by zip code to find one near you or worse case you buy 3 for 4 months worth of dog food at a time and get it shipped to your home to reduce the shipping charges. I'd list some links to some of the pet food information but I deleted all that shit when my dog died back at the beginning of the year. Use Google to look up info on grain free dog food or grain free hypoallergenic dog food.
My dog had some issues with loose stools, bad ear infections and hot spots till I changed to a grain free dog food. A lot of dogs have grain/gluten allergies that show up with lots of different symptoms. Vets tend to treat the symptoms but don't fix the source problem and many will discount it if you suggest its food related or they give you their expensive prescription dog food that still uses corn, wheat and rice as a filler. The grain free food looks more expensive but the dog will end up needing to eat less of it because it has less or no fillers so the costs even out and you'll end up with less vet visits if your dog has dietary related allergies. A few months after switching to grain free my dog used to get alot of complements about how nice his coat looked and felt.
becasue it was the best choice with a reliable retailer close to me so I didn't have to have dog food shipped via UPS anymore. I saved about 30 dollars in shipping charges every 3 months. It worked out well and my dog liked it. He also liked the rabbit and salmon versions of that kibble but the retailer didn't always have it so I just stuck with the chicken based kibble.
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Purina Pro Plan is pricey, but the quality justifies the price. Shredded blend Chicken and Lamb flavors have actual bits of meat in the dry food. The dogs I used to have loved it. 15 years feeding it, only time a dog had a loose stool is when they were sick. Really a terrific product, especially if you are going to work and trial the dog. Just don't over feed the stuff.
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I've been feeding him Purina One puppy food for large breed dogs. He loves it. The primary ingredient is Chicken (Well, probably chicken byproducts but that's beside the point- no dog food contains white meat only)
When the bag I bought runs out I'll try the little 5lb sample of Science Diet and see how he responds. I'm not all that interested in getting into an arms race on dog food- otherwise I'd be cooking food for him every night. His vets said in their opinion it was preferable to feed a meat-as primary-ingredient food- even as they handed me the grain-first Science Diet. BTW- rice as an additive does not aggravate a gluten intolerant dog. Rice is gluten free as gluten comes from wheat, barley, oats and rye.
He was weaned on Purina Pro Plan food and came to me with a beautiful coat. He is now 10 days on Purina One and still beautiful. If He can maintain weight and growth and coat I'll leave him on the cheaper Purina One. As he matures and has to work harder I'll think about upgrading.
Rice allergy causes an allergic reaction in individuals who consume the grain. Any food that uses rice – including those made with rice flour – has the potential to trigger a reaction. Unlike many food allergies, rice allergy afflicts adults more often than young children. In addition, dogs can be allergic to rice. The grain is found in many commercial dog foods.
Fiend: I have never heard of a rice intolerant individual before so I apologize. I misread your post apparently, as you did mine. I was only addressing gluten intolerance.
If I wound up with a dog that couldn't tolerate gluten OR rice, it would probably be goodbye dog as that is a flaw that does not belong in the gene pool as harsh as that might sound. A cat would be dispatched forthwith, a good dog just probably.
The young man is coming along great. He got to go to "the bar" a week ago, and sat in his stool just fine.
He sits, he sometimes stays, he lies down on command and most of all he retrieves and brings his bird to hand. He has no fear of water though I've done nothing to encourage him to swim. Being surrounded by a pond, a water-crazed lab is a pain in the neck when you can't get him from the house to the truck to go to work without him taking a swim.
He is still eating Purina One and as you can see he looks great. When this is gone I'm skipping the Science Diet and going to Diamond Advanced. There's a version of the same food at Costco but I can't remember the brand name. It has outrageously positive reviews and is very reasonable.
any issues with ear infections at all?. every lab we've had couldn't stay out of the water and a few times a year we'd have to treat ear issues no matter how many preventative steps we took.
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Lou, I had terrible luck with my yellow lab and ear infections but as I said- he was water-crazed. We had hand raised mallards in our pond and he swam for hours per day trying to catch them.
I want this one to have no fear but I don't want him to be as nuts about it as Tate was.
I had this stuff that smelled like cucumbers I'd squirt in his ears. I guess it was similar to our swimmers ear remedies. But when they spend 5-6 hours a day in the water it doesn't work.
yeah we had some blue fluid in a squirt bottle that we'd dose em with. i think it caused as many problems as it solved. and from what more than a few vets and breeders told me... those heavy ears are the one flaw in an otherwise perfectly designed animal.
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Our lab once jumped in a river full of spawned out salmon and rolled around in all the carcasses. It was fucking horrible. Strangely, someone recommended washing him with tomato sauce which somehow got all of the smell out. He lived almost 20 years and was a great retriever although he would never let go of the birds. Usually their heads would come off when we'd pull the bird away from him.
In his later years he was sort of blind and couldn't find the ducks anymore, so we would use a tag-team approach. Our rottweiler would swim out to the ducks and the lab would follow. The rott would freak out as soon as he realized he had a living bird in his mouth and then the lab would snatch it from him and swim back with it.
Labs are the fucking best, hands down. If beagles could swim they might run a close second.
yup... the first dog i remember our family having was a beagle mix of some sort. mostly beagle though and full on male. i remember watching that dog through the window take full on runs to the end of leash till he snapped it and then he was off on his own adventures. my old man had to go get him twice after he'd been hit by cars and once after he fought a shepherd. sadly, one day he never came back but that's how it goes. we all die alone or chasing pussy.
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In a plastic bucket, mix well the following ingredients:
1 quart of 3% Hydrogen Peroxide
1/4 cup of baking soda
1 to 2 teaspoons liquid soap
for very large pets one quart of tepid tap water may be added to enable complete coverage.
Wash pet promptly and thoroughly, work the solution deep into the fur. Let your nose guide you, leave the solution on about 5 minutes or until the odor is gone. Some heavily oiled areas may require a "rinse and repeat" washing.
Skunks usually aim for the face, but try to keep the solution out of the eyes - it stings. If you have any cuts on your hands you might want to wear latex gloves for the same reason.
After treatment, thoroughly rinse your pet with tepid tap water.
Pour the spent solution down the drain with running water.
NEVER, ever, store mixed solution in a closed bottle, sprayer,etc. Pressure will build up until the container bursts. This can cause severe injury.
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1) Clean plastic mixing containers and utensils are preferred. Metals encourage auto-decomposition of the peroxide.
2) Hydrogen Peroxide 3% solution is usually sold in pint (500ml) bottles, so you'll need two. The 3% grade is often marked "U.S.P.", meaning that it meets the standards for medical use and purity as set forth in the United States Pharmacopoeia.
The use of other strengths/grades is not recommended unless you're a chemist, and even then a trip to the 24-hour drugstore is much better than a trip to the emergency room.
3) Use baking soda, not baking powder. "Arm and Hammer" is one popular brand. Baking soda is also called: Sodium Bicarbonate, Sodium Bicarbonate, U.S.P., Bicarbonate of Soda, and Sodium Hydrogen Carbonate. Do not confuse any of the above with Washing Soda, which is Sodium Carbonate. Washing Soda is about 100 times more alkaline than Baking Soda and can cause skin burns to both you and your pet.
4) Two preferred brands are "Softsoap" and "Ivory Liquid". As far as auto-decomposition of the peroxide is concerned, the surfactant package in these two is fairly inert. Heavy-duty grease-cutting brands such as "Dawn" are less inert, and hair shampoo is probably the worst.
5) Once mixed, the peroxide slowly breaks down into water and oxygen gas. Thus it gets weaker with time and so it should be used promptly. The exact rate depends on temperature, pH, and catalysts such as trace amounts of metals (iron,etc.) in the soap and/or tap water.
How much pressure will the complete decomposition of 3% hydrogen peroxide produce in a closed container ??? It depends on how full the container is. Assuming negligible solubility of Oxygen in water, a bottle half-full of peroxide will develop about 140 psi. A bottle 3/4 full would develop 420 psi. This can do a lot of damage.
Highly pure hydrogen peroxide decomposes very slowly if kept cool and in a dark place, a few percent a year. The more dilute solutions usually decompose faster (due to impurities in the dilution water) and have a trace of stabilizer added. So why aren't the bottles in the store bloated or bursting ? Look carefully inside the cap... you'll see some very tiny holes in the cap liner to let the oxygen gas escape. A good reason to always store bottles upright.
Look for an expiration date on your peroxide. If you're using stuff which has been sitting around in your medicine cabinet for years, buy fresh peroxide.
6) Tepid: lukewarm.
7) All brand names mentioned in this website are trademarks of their various owners.
Alaska is the only state without skunks. The only reason I know what skunks smell like is from driving across the country and smelling one that got ran over on the freeway.
Never met Sarah Palin, but allow me to further poop on your thread by posting about the guy in my avatar. He's a complete lunatic who managed to get 22% of the vote when he ran for Senate as a Democrat. Here's a video of him from his Mayoral run where he discusses his energy policy and "technology."
It's hard for me to get angry about people shitting in an XPT thread with a title and purpose as specific as this one. I'm sure I'm guilty of the same thing I just can't remember when.
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We had a beagle that I was terrified of. He would bite me and my brother whenever my parents left the room and we had to put her down. I bought some kinda oatmeal based deal when my dog got sprayed . it worked pretty good.
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I'm having to adjust to a black lab. The fucker gets lost in the dark. I had a promotional jagermeister lapel light with a blinking LED that I took to clipping to his collar when I let him out at night. That didn't last.
He is still a very exceptional dog with a lot of drive. Probably the best I've ever had and I've had some great ones.
I bought a collar from them even though I usually preferred a good leather collar. It lasted longer than my dog did. People always asked where I got it.
I ordered pet tags for my dog and Medical Alert tags for me and some family from those guys. The quality and durability(both stainless steel and plastic) was great on both types of tags. The medical alert tags are military style dog tags. The site lists them as Mantags/ Military tags.
The boy went to school today, to a very reputable trainer. He's not that far from me so I can stop in and see him from time to time.
The dog has the gift, and I realized I'm not qualified to bring it out of him so I took him to "the man". I spent a couple hours with the trainer and my dog and it's amazing what he was able to do with him in that limited time. The dog already is very well socialized and had basic obedience commands down-pat (mostly) but those will be 100% solid when he comes home. He will also "force-fetch". If you don't know what that is, here's a decent description though my trainer goes about it a little differently http://www.versatiledogs.com/ask/ret8.html
The trainer actually got very excited when he saw the boys bloodline and realized what he had on his hands by working with him.
I expect the trainer will try to talk me into leaving him with him for longer than the agreed upon time to "polish him up" for purely personal reasons. He doesn't charge for the additional time, so money isn't the object. He will want the opportunity to work him more so that when the dog hits the field he will be a testament to his skills as a trainer.
The trainer called me over the weekend. Now, I've been over there a couple times since the boy went to school and kept in touch with my dog and him but he called me all jacked up.
He had a guy bring his 16 week old pup down to have a look-see at his operation and to interview him about training his dog this past weekend. He said as they went by the kennel he opened Scout's kennel and brought him out to demonstrate with, as he's the youngest dog there right now... He came and walked at heel, sat and stayed. All with hand signals. The trainer told the guy "I've only had this dog about two weeks". The guy said "You never said a word to him... can I leave my pup today?"
Long story short, the trainer is very enthused. He is crediting Scout's human bond and desire to please. Which is why I wouldn't recommend leaving the dog at the accepted 16 weeks but waiting somewhere from 5-6 months to get that trust and relationship going.
This trainer has about 6 dogs counting his own (now 7, as he accepted the new pup) and his Champions are so high strung they can hardly be let out of his sight. He told me he goes out in the morning and lets Scout out and he hangs with him all day. I take this as a good thing as the more time spent and the better he makes the trainer look the more attention he will get. In essence, he told me the dog earned him 400.00/month this weekend after two weeks work and he wouldn't forget it.
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Good deal. The difference between a dog and a smart dog is priceless.
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I have the suspicion that Bornyo has this bumper sticker:
Hell, I sell those.
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...In essence, he told me the dog earned him 400.00/month this weekend after two weeks work and he wouldn't forget it...
I got to thinking about this. Actually, the dog is earning him 800/month when you count the 400 I'm paying. That's per month for at least a few more months. And I bet he'll get him another dog before it's over. I gotta fucking dog that's taking money out of my pocket and directly putting it in someone elses! Wonder who's really getting trained here?
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You going to handle the dog in retriever trials, or have the pro do it?
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If he goes to trials, it will be with me, not the trainer. I'm not so much into that totally hands-off thing like horse racing.
I may take him through a few trials so he can get a few titles after his name on his AKC records. That brings a lot more money when it comes to stud fees.
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Specially if you drive drunk and/or high. Nondescript, that is how I like my vehicles.
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I hate the "coexist" stickers. I hate any philosophy that can be boiled down to bumper sticker size.
you have to be an absolute whack-job to sport any kind of bumper sticker.
Yes. I totally agree. I even hate those stick family things on the windows of SUVs. Altho I'd like to build my own. 2 huge titted moms, a dog licking himself. That sort of classy thing.
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You might have to turn in your Redneck License if you don't put a 102" whip on your new ride.
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All my old homies rocked Ranger 2950 and K40, a couple went to 102 whips. They all had 250w amps too. Bravo Romeo Oscar, Big Radios Only.
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Knock it off and get the Ham shit out of this thread. Backdoorman and Chuck I'm talking about you. You have your own dead thread to talk about this shit in, if you can find it.
Edit: You too Jerkules, you're only egging them on.
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Sorry man.
What is your trainer feeding the pooch? He use a shock collar or a right hook? Some dogs too smart and get "collar wise" by the 3rd time you put it on em.
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What is your trainer feeding the pooch? He use a shock collar or a right hook? Some dogs too smart and get "collar wise" by the 3rd time you put it on em.
hehe... I see what you did there. He's feeding him the same food I did, Purina One large breed puppy formula, based on how good he looked when I took him in there. Normally he feeds Purina Pro Plan, which is a higher reviewed food. When I get him back I'll stick with his present brand or may switch him to Diamond Naturals, which is less expensive and even higher rated.
The trainer doesn't use shock collars and nothing I've seen or heard indicates force is ever used. He did, at the beginning, use pieces of dog biscuit sparingly. He says it gets the dog started paying attention to his hands and he doesn't use the treat every or even most of the time. I think he described it like this: "that biscuit don't have to be there all the time, just enough that the dog wants it to be there".
I'm not sure how the trainer would do with troubled dogs like the "Dog Whisperer" sees, but he definitely has an immediate connection with dogs.
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Interesting. I have no experience with retriever training, didn't know it was biscuit laden.
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I'm going to go out on a limb and say his use of pieces of biscuit is an exception rather than the rule for "professional" trainers. The hardcore trainers have no tolerance for non cooperative dogs, and have been known to use an "e-collar". I have never heard of a successful trainer using brute force or a right hook. After all, even a dog knows his trainer can't pop him in the head if he's 50 yds afield. Any lesson you taught a dog based on being at arms length is not gonna hold up when he is 50, 75 or a hundred yards away.
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Back in the day, before the rise in popularity of electric collars, I heard a .410 w/ bird shot was commonly utilized to "reach out and touch" a dog that wasn't paying attention.
Some guys use the right hook at the drop of a hat, others more selective. General rule of thumb, don't use it around birds, for fear of turning them off to the birds, and don't use it when they come back after running off, for fear that next time they don't come back. You gotta chase them down, and get them in the act of doing something to utilize it properly.
I knew plenty of trainers, again NOT retriever guys, where the right hook was their go to move. One guy used a left. All of them long successful careers.
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The boy is still at school about to finish his second month. He used him in a demonstration at a huge game cookout a couple weekends ago where he showed what dogs he'd trained 1 month, 1 year, 4 yrs and 8 yrs could do. My dog was the 1 monther and he did excellent. I hid to the back of the crowd and pup had no idea I was there. He brought him out and demonstrated basic obedience and a few hand signals then he called out and asked if I would step forward. I did and Scout broke and came charging to me. He's never done it before but he was pissing like a fountain while he rolled around on the ground with me. I mean he was excited...The trainer let us have a minute or two and I stood back up and he laid on top of my feet and in between my legs and just in general got as close as he could... Then the trainer gave two blasts on his whistle and said his name and Scout jumped up and ran right back and sat at heel with him. Trainer looked at the crowd and said "Folks, that dog just did the absolute last thing on Earth he wanted to do. That's training". It made quite an impression.
I see him a couple times a week. The trainer does not need a right hook...he has some connection. I'm afraid he is going to try to buy the dog from me before this is over. I won't sell of course, but that's where it's headed.
I used to love it when we'd cook a steak for my brother's Rottweiler and then tell him to sit. He'd sit and wait and wouldn't eat it, but he'd be salivating and drooling all over while he was sitting. Another favorite thing was to tell him to sit while at a park and then walk back to the car while he just sat there a 1/4 mile away. He wouldn't do anything else in either situation until you gave the OK. Great dog. I'm pretty sure he thought he was a person and used to sit down on the couch with his butt on the seat just like the rest of us.
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Yep. I think I've gotten sappy here before about dogs. If you are a Christian or know anything about the Bible, a dog's love for his man/woman is as close a thing to "Agape Love" you will ever see on Earth.
That's weird. When I was a kid, my Pops used to say "Agape Mou" in Greek to my Mom when he was being lovey-dovey.
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It probably doesn't mean what your expression means, but I think "Agape Mou" is a pretty common expression of love in the Greek language.
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Went to the trainers today and worked with the dog for about 2-1/2 hrs. We;;, we worked about 30 minutes and played with him for two hours. He is a Crackerjack.
Edit: This replacement phone I got has a bad spot on the lense or in the chip that blurs the center of the images.
So we're into week three of our two week lovefest and rebonding period. Mostly focused on obedience and getting him back into the routine of being a dog on the go, to work and the watering hole and what-not. Next week we start back in working on the retrieving and that will require a few stops by the trainer for him to actually train me.
Anyway, if I stand still for over 60 seconds, this happens.
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So, will you be entering him in competitions in the fall or just using his skills for your own hunting needs?
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Pretty much just using him as a gundog and companion. (In other words just serving my needs). I personally do not have the time to devote to competing in trials.
I've faced the reality that I'll never get my money out of him even though he is capable of the trials and then some, and that's my fault. He is still not neutered though, so if you think you have a worthy female send me her papers. I'll consider it.
The trainer actually cried as we pulled away a few weeks ago and has nearly repeated every time we stop by. He's begun to realize we aren't going away.
Took him to Knoxville today. So far he's been to VA, NC, all of SC (of course), GA and today he marks off TN.
I'll just say he's a trooper and leave it at that. A great traveling companion and just what I needed.
Here he is sniffing some long gone dogs piss at a rest stop just east of Knoxville.
When we got back into town I stopped by the watering hole. A friend had an older, alpha, Chesapeake there as well and we introduced them. They did fine but Scout for the first and only time felt the need to mark my leg with a squirt of pee when the other male got too close to me. Gross, but it was kinda funny.
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He don't want anyone bird doggin his bitch "This mutha fucker bring ME the kibble. Keep yer distance."
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It came up earlier in this thread- his kibble is now Purina Pro Plan. Four cups a day and I'm going to cut it back further if we stay on the road and he stays inactive this many hours a day. I can't find Diamond Advanced on a consistent basis and you cannot fuck with a dogs food when he spends time in a vehicle and hotel room with you.
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True that. Pro Plan always produced a solid stool. What flavor you give him?
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That's with the freeze dried pieces of meat? My dogs loved it when I switched to that. I used to get them the chicken, and every once in a while the lamb.
I think I'm going to get a dog in the spring. A smaller one for in the house.
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He weighed 61.5 lbs at the vet last week. In my opinion that's about perfect. My duck hunting friends are wanting to borrow him this winter. The smaller the Lab, the better chance you have of staying in your boat when the dog launches or has to be retrieved.
Scout's first trial is today. We're not doing an actual competition but something called a "tower shoot". Some probably think it's inhumane, and maybe it is. But as I understand it they will launch live birds that "sportsmen" will shoot. New dogs are used for retrievals. He's been shot over many times, and he's retrieved many times (now taking hand signals, etc) but never live shooting, live birds, and commands all at one time.
Trainer is recently trying to either buy him or another pup from his mom's next litter or a pup from one of his sisters.
Our black lab was a great retriever. The only problem was that he wouldn't let go of the ducks until he'd gnawed their heads off. Once he got old and started going blind, we had to pair him with our rottweiler to retrieve birds. The rott would swim out, but he'd freak out when he tried to grab the ducks because they were still alive and moving. The lab would follow the rott and do the actual retrieving. Dogs are awesome.
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Cool story.
And good for Scout. Did you have him fixed, or can you breed him?
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He's not fixed. I fixed my last two but it would be a crying shame to fix Scout.
He is smaller than what you typically see for a lab these days but still well within breed standards. And he is gifted.
He will make some awesome pups.
Steezo, I have never heard of a rott retrieving. Ive been working on Scouts mouth by giving him an empty water bottle. If I can hear it, he isn't doing it right.
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Just make sure you get a big black bitch for him, and the pups will be alright.
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This rott looked like a big ol' badass, but was actually kind of a pussy. Sort of like how all bullys are actually wimps. That sounds mean, but really he was just all bark and no bite. We bought some chew treats that were made out of cow hooves and that dog pee'd the floor when he saw them. I guess rottweilers were used as herding dogs in their past and he must've had some sort of inbred fear of hooves.
Anyway, he loved swimming and was great as far as spotting birds in the water and swimming to them. He just couldn't handle picking up a dying bird in his mouth. It freaked him out. The worst thing that dog ever did was jump into a riverbed full of spawned out salmon. He stunk himself up to high heaven. That's when we learned that tomato sauce can get off funky odors, like the smell of dead fish or skunks.
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Scouts been back from "college" a few weeks now. He's becoming a great dog. Really laid back til a gun or retrieving dummies come out then it's strictly business.
My little man had a bad setback. Been at the vet for two days and I guess now we're around 2k. Thought he had a blockage from one of the myriad things a Lab chews up but it turns out he has a serious gastro infection. Not a parasite but an infection that shuts their bowels down.
He's still a champ, and comes home tomorrow. No more animal bones or rawhide for him...ever.
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Damn. Glad he pulled through.
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The Doc isn't blaming the chews, rawhides, bones or really anything specific...but he says you're taking a chance anytime you give a dog any kind of animal bone. I know, chicken bones vs beef bone debate, etc, but this vet says they are all a crap shoot. Rather than worry about all that I'm just going to eliminate them.
No, he didn't say it was transmitted by the animal bone. Shards of bone could have cut his innards and led to the infection he has right now, or not. They never found an actual blockage. Little dude has a major bacterial gastro infection.
This vet is just against bones in general because even though the odds are in your and the dogs favor, there's still a chance.
I've been told, as long as I've owned dogs that you shouldn't feed them chicken bones. They splinter too much. But I have seen my jack russel chew through anything with little damage. But I never feed him chicken bones. Beef bones yeah, but well, he'd like to catch a squirell.
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I've heard all that too. The vet just said "no bones, and stop worrying about it".
Little man came home friday and we've been feeding him a little along of some bland canned food and giving him an assload of antibiotics and stomach coating pills. He took his first shit sunday and it was a whopper. I should have taken a pic for Panzer.
I think he's going to be okay but we're keeping an eye on him for a few more days.
He's definitely better but not out of the woods yet. It's amazing how dogs have no self pity. He almost died last week, still barely holds food down and can't take a normal shit and last night I took him and had him tried for his "therapy dog" certificate. He passed with flying colors.
Now I can take him to visit sick old farts like Backdoorman.
The old boy is doing great. He is averaging one good shit a day in the morning plus one runny one at night depending on how much swimming he's done. We are not giving him any bones of any species but have given him a rawhide or two since he came home. I got one of those wireless invisible fences to try to keep him home but frankly, think I may have wasted my money because the range is pretty short and as you have all seen, the hacienda is surrounded by water. With my previous lab I buried an invisible fence wire under the water and tried to mark his boundary with buoyed drink bottles but the bottles just tortured the Lab as he wanted to retrieve them.
Fuck, it's complicated. And not made better that I let him keep his nuts. If he was neutered he'd be the Ace of Aces- King of Kings, Lord of Lords of all dogs I've had, ever. But his nuts lead him off two or three times a week- And knowing you got 10k or so wandering the countryside directed by two walnut sized dog testicles is not a good feeling.
No, Scout didn't. I didn't take him and I'm glad I didn't. They use their dogs differently out there. They range out in a grid through the fields roughly 50 yds or less from their handler. It is very undisciplined yet very efficient. They are out working the field rows and flushing birds. When someone shoots and they see the bird twitch they break automatically to retrieve.
If I taught or allowed Scout to hunt like that he would never sit on a dove field or God forbid in a duck blind and wait for a signal to retrieve.
I had no idea folks hunted dogs that way but the guy said all he cared about was if his dog brought the birds to his hand. and they did do that. There was just a lot more chaos involved than what I'm accustomed to. Of course, we don't have pheasant here but we do have some quail. Those S. Dakota dogs would suck at that here because they would bust out too far ahead and flush instead of holding a point. It's a function of where you are hunting. It is pointless to teach a dog to hold a point in a cornfield 6 or 7 feet tall because you can't see him.
I have been out hiking several times and have run into bear dogs that have strayed very far and are just fucking lost. generally the owner wants the tracking collar more than anything and they can't be bothered. fucking annoys me.
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Quail too much work for a chicken nugget worth of meat.
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