#502231 - 01/10/1104:38 PMRe: Arizona Congresswoman Shot at Public Event
Barry the Pirate
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Loc: Great Pacific Northwest
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Quote: Styla, you're a fucking idiot. Our society is no better than another? Take a gander to the south of us. I'm not sure about where you live, but it's not a common occurance in my neck o' the woods to wake up every morning reading about how many beheaded bodys were found on the highway just down the road from my house. Maybe your definition of "better" and mine are different.
Barry, why do you call me "a fucking idiot", only to arrive at the conclusion that "our definitions of "better" are different"? Because I sure do think our definitions of better are different.
What I grasp from your posts in this thread is that you're seriously disappointed and shocked that this kind of thing happened in your country. I can imagine the 'confusion' and shock as we've had a few incidents over here as well ( example 1, example 2) that shook the nation. I'm of the opinion that it's very wrong to kill people, politicians or otherwise, but I'm not shocked anymore by the things people are capable of. And I'm convinced that for every monstrosity that happens elsewhere in the world, there is something likewise (though maybe on a different scale) happening in my own country (or yours). This is, more or less, the extent of what I was implying in my earlier post.
To an extent, you're right. I'm not sure I agree about a bad shit happening equalty between societies, because to be honest I hadn't given it must thought. I just figure that every few years when Rwanda goes into an orgy of machete whacking and eating each other, nothing similar is going on the First World. It would be in the papers if St. Louis, Mo were choking the rivers with the dead of their nearest neighbor. I'm not being sarcastic. I just don't see it. I just don't think the Universe runs on that kind of balance. It's an interesting theory, tho. I doubt there's any way to prove or disprove, so I can agree to disagree with you. Sorry for calling you a fucking idiot.
I think you've pegged my feelings on this pretty well. For all my bitching about the way politics are run in this country, I'm still a believer in the System. I'm a current events and history buff. And this thing has me shook up. First off, because it just doesn't happen here very often. Compared to Mexico of today, where the cops snatch and kill the mayor they're supposed to be protecting. To South America in the last decade where snuffing presidential candidates was pretty commonplace. To Europe in the heady days of the Red Brigades and Beidher- Meinhoff. In the United States we've been lucky, or have a different mindset or whatever. I happen to think it's because our experiment in being a representative republic has give us, as a society, a different collective mindset. Which I think is "better" than others.
But what has me shook up mostly is the way that some have seen this as a way to divide us, rather than to bring us together. To make political hay rather than let us, as a society, heal from a fairly hard punch to the gut. Nut cases do what they do. And it causes an assload of damage. It hurts my heart when we feel the need to pick at the stitches. It's harmful, it's hurtful, and it does nothing to help heal. It just makes things worse. To fix that kind of damage just makes everyone suffer.
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