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#502221 - 01/10/11 01:05 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Only way for the government to be sufficiently weakened is for the National Grid to go down for a prolonged period of time. Killing off communication, no refrigeration for food, separating people from their money (everyone is addicted to digital money be it credit or debt).
To be quite honest, if it is ever to happen, I hope it does during my life time. I'd hate to miss seeing it unfold. Same with the 2012 thing. If it is the end of the world, I want a front row seat.
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#502222 - 01/10/11 01:16 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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you are missing my point, quoting this girl's twitters again, asshole. SOURCE NOT CREDIBLE. where did you go to community college, son? would you rely on those idiots to be reliable character witnesses for you? imagine what they said about your faggoty cowboy hat behind your back.
he'd been tossing around all the same rhetoric of the extreme right, and then shot a democrat. sarah palin even had a map on her website, with the victim's district under cross hairs. where do you think people people are getting the idea that he was influenced by them? he was also a military reject, not your typical "liberal" profile at all. i could give a shit if he read a few books and smoked pot. he was just a frustrated kook, who finally took the bait. you should own up to the fruits of all your shit talking. this is what you people have been asking for, right? you should be happy.
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#502223 - 01/10/11 01:24 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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To be quite honest, if it is ever to happen, I hope it does during my life time. I'd hate to miss seeing it unfold. Same with the 2012 thing. If it is the end of the world, I want a front row seat.
I have to agree with that. If it happens, I want it to happen on my watch. At least then I'll know I did what I could to protect my kids and family. In spite of what I've taught my children about guns and independent living, I'm afraid they are ill-equipped to cope. I hope they have sense enough to try to find their way back to my house if the shit hits the fan.
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#502224 - 01/10/11 01:28 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/01/08
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Ms. Malkin posted this on facebook.
H.R. your last name should be "Fulloshit" !
Edited by backdoorman (01/10/11 01:32 PM)
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#502225 - 01/10/11 01:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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Ms. Malkin posted this on facebook.
H.R. your last name should be "Fulloshit" !
Thanks BDM. That list sums it up nicely. There are crazy people everywhere.
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#502226 - 01/10/11 01:34 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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you are missing my point, quoting this girl's twitters again, asshole. SOURCE NOT CREDIBLE. where did you go to community college, son? would you rely on those idiots to be reliable character witnesses for you? imagine what they said about your faggoty cowboy hat behind your back.
he'd been tossing around all the same rhetoric of the extreme right, and then shot a democrat. sarah palin even had a map on her website, with the victim's district under cross hairs. where do you think people people are getting the idea that he was influenced by them? he was also a military reject, not your typical "liberal" profile at all. i could give a shit if he read a few books and smoked pot. he was just a frustrated kook, who finally took the bait. you should own up to the fruits of all your shit talking. this is what you people have been asking for, right? you should be happy.
The people who know him and went to school with him aren't credible, or because it appears on a news site that doesn't meet your personal criteria for credibility? Get the fuck out. People are saying he's a right winger, because liberal network news anchors are going out of their way to make that connection. And idiots like you are swallowing it hook, line, and sinker.
The facts are he had a run in with this moderate, blue dog, fiscally conservative, 2nd amendment loving Democrat all the way back in 07. This isn't from the tweet that's from the Liberal vitriol spewing sheriff himself. That's long before Palin or the healthcare law you idiot liberals are trying to tie this shooting to ever came along. Get your head out of your ass kid. If you actually took the time to read and listen to his rhetoric you'd know it's actually all over the fucking place. the guy can't hold a coherent line of thought, BECAUSE HE'S A FUCKING NUT JOB and that's the real reason he shot her.
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#502227 - 01/10/11 02:21 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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Interesting: Jared Loughner is a product of Sheriff Dupnik’s office CLICK Apparently he's been making death threats and Dupnik's office did nothing about it because his mother works for the county. We'll see if this pans out though, but if they could have intervened and forced the kid to get some help, but refused to, then that could have been the reason for the sheriff to come out swinging the partisan cudgel like he did in the first press conference.
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#502228 - 01/10/11 03:27 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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This finger pointing, from everyone, cheapens the fact that a lot of people got killed and a lot of people got hurt. Sarah Palin didn't do it, Barry Obama didn't do it. This fuckwad did it. He was disturbed, no matter how you slice it.
What frightens me the most is the quickness to jump up and say some folks (usually the ones you disagree with) better be watching their tongue because it might send a nutjob over the line. Maybe Lennon shouldn't have written Imagine. Maybe Catcher shouldn't have written. Then Chapman wouldn't killed Lennon. Problem solved. No one should say anything anymore, cuz some loon MIGHT take it wrong. We should give the keys to nutcases.
In the 80's people really shit on Reagan. He was insane, was gonna get us all killed...something needed to be done. When Hinkley capped him, where was all the soul searching about the tone of political discourse? I'm not saying there was none because Reagan was a right winger and the press was Left. I think the problem is bigger than that. First off, I think we've become a nation of whining little bitches. Second, I don't think anyone has enough faith in their own beliefs to defend those beliefs on their own merit. Something like this happens, rather than worrying for the victims it has to be used as a hammer to further an agenda. That's just fucked up, people.
Styla, you're a fucking idiot. Our society is no better than another? Take a gander to the south of us. I'm not sure about where you live, but it's not a common occurance in my neck o' the woods to wake up every morning reading about how many beheaded bodys were found on the highway just down the road from my house. Maybe your definition of "better" and mine are different.
Lou, if taxpayers have to pay for Mrs. Giffords' drool cup, I'm pretty OK with that. She is employed by us. She got hurt on the job, working for us. Whether you or I agree with her politics, she's a fucking human being.
Also, Lou, I like you. We've PM'd back and forth a few times, and I like the cut of your jib. I imagine in this post I'm coming off as pretty pissed off, because I am. But I consider us friends, or as friendly as one can get with an almost total stranger. If I've crossed the line here with you, I apologize.
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#502229 - 01/10/11 03:47 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
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Loc: The 4th International
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Styla, you're a fucking idiot. Our society is no better than another? Take a gander to the south of us. I'm not sure about where you live, but it's not a common occurance in my neck o' the woods to wake up every morning reading about how many beheaded bodys were found on the highway just down the road from my house. Maybe your definition of "better" and mine are different.
Barry, why do you call me "a fucking idiot", only to arrive at the conclusion that "our definitions of "better" are different"? Because I sure do think our definitions of better are different.
What I grasp from your posts in this thread is that you're seriously disappointed and shocked that this kind of thing happened in your country. I can imagine the 'confusion' and shock as we've had a few incidents over here as well ( example 1, example 2) that shook the nation. I'm of the opinion that it's very wrong to kill people, politicians or otherwise, but I'm not shocked anymore by the things people are capable of. And I'm convinced that for every monstrosity that happens elsewhere in the world, there is something likewise (though maybe on a different scale) happening in my own country (or yours).
This is, more or less, the extent of what I was implying in my earlier post.
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#502230 - 01/10/11 04:36 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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I should hope the definitions are different. Netherlands and the BeNeLux area is perhaps the MOST civilized country on the planet. Why? 1) Inventors of the Stock Market, Amsterdam (nuf said) 2) While the rest of Europe was killing each other over land grabs, the Dutch were engineering new and better ways to get more land from the Ocean without killing their neighbors to steal their land. 3) They treat adults like adults rather than pretending only a government can be the adult. 4) Center for international justice, Den Haag. 5) Best Cheese on the planet. 6) Best Beer on the planet. vriendelijke groeten! Given that you are accustomed to Dutch civilization, I can see why US and Arab areas both seem uncivilized, but I would maintain that the US brand of civilization is still at least one rung up on that ladder. 
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#502231 - 01/10/11 04:38 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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Styla, you're a fucking idiot. Our society is no better than another? Take a gander to the south of us. I'm not sure about where you live, but it's not a common occurance in my neck o' the woods to wake up every morning reading about how many beheaded bodys were found on the highway just down the road from my house. Maybe your definition of "better" and mine are different.
Barry, why do you call me "a fucking idiot", only to arrive at the conclusion that "our definitions of "better" are different"? Because I sure do think our definitions of better are different.
What I grasp from your posts in this thread is that you're seriously disappointed and shocked that this kind of thing happened in your country. I can imagine the 'confusion' and shock as we've had a few incidents over here as well ( example 1, example 2) that shook the nation. I'm of the opinion that it's very wrong to kill people, politicians or otherwise, but I'm not shocked anymore by the things people are capable of. And I'm convinced that for every monstrosity that happens elsewhere in the world, there is something likewise (though maybe on a different scale) happening in my own country (or yours).
This is, more or less, the extent of what I was implying in my earlier post.
To an extent, you're right. I'm not sure I agree about a bad shit happening equalty between societies, because to be honest I hadn't given it must thought. I just figure that every few years when Rwanda goes into an orgy of machete whacking and eating each other, nothing similar is going on the First World. It would be in the papers if St. Louis, Mo were choking the rivers with the dead of their nearest neighbor. I'm not being sarcastic. I just don't see it. I just don't think the Universe runs on that kind of balance. It's an interesting theory, tho. I doubt there's any way to prove or disprove, so I can agree to disagree with you. Sorry for calling you a fucking idiot.
I think you've pegged my feelings on this pretty well. For all my bitching about the way politics are run in this country, I'm still a believer in the System. I'm a current events and history buff. And this thing has me shook up. First off, because it just doesn't happen here very often. Compared to Mexico of today, where the cops snatch and kill the mayor they're supposed to be protecting. To South America in the last decade where snuffing presidential candidates was pretty commonplace. To Europe in the heady days of the Red Brigades and Beidher- Meinhoff. In the United States we've been lucky, or have a different mindset or whatever. I happen to think it's because our experiment in being a representative republic has give us, as a society, a different collective mindset. Which I think is "better" than others.
But what has me shook up mostly is the way that some have seen this as a way to divide us, rather than to bring us together. To make political hay rather than let us, as a society, heal from a fairly hard punch to the gut. Nut cases do what they do. And it causes an assload of damage. It hurts my heart when we feel the need to pick at the stitches. It's harmful, it's hurtful, and it does nothing to help heal. It just makes things worse. To fix that kind of damage just makes everyone suffer.
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#502232 - 01/10/11 04:41 PM
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Either side? Neither... just a nut with a shooter.
As evidenced by the fact that his reading list was topped by both The Communist Manifesto and Mein Kampf. One from Column A...
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3) They treat adults like adults rather than pretending only a government can be the adult.
I'm not so sure this part applies, if what I've been reading over the last few years is to be believed.
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#502233 - 01/10/11 04:48 PM
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I just figure that every few years when Rwanda goes into an orgy of machete whacking and eating each other, nothing similar is going on the First World.
Barry, I knew this guy. Despite the presence of Panzer, we're still the First World here.
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#502234 - 01/10/11 05:04 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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You really have to just treat Freestylah like you treat Steve Holmes...
"Okay dude, you are here amongst us doing yeoman's work... shut up and leave it at that".
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#502235 - 01/10/11 05:17 PM
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Porn Fucking Master
Registered: 09/19/05
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Flame wars are what keeps this board in existence.
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#502236 - 01/10/11 05:30 PM
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Actually, I think Free's saying the same thing: Nutjobs spring up everywhere. Would I mind seeing Palin take the hit so a more credible candidate emerges and keeps Obama on his toes? That's an entirely different matter.
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#502239 - 01/10/11 07:18 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/11/06
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For all the people looking to (wrongly) point the finger at Sarah Palin for this shooting spree, tell me were you outraged when her church in Wasilla, AK was burned down in a case of arson during the 2008 Presidentiall election? Did you even know it happened. Do you hear it ever being mentioned during the current discussion of this shooting?
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#502240 - 01/10/11 08:07 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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Seriously? Had no idea. Just wow. Well, I'm sure it wasn't a "real" church. You know, like a Unitarian or Scientology Centre.
I remember several years ago when there was a rash of church burnings in the South. Clinton came out and talked about remembering as a child Black churches burning in Arkansas. Apparently no Black churches were actually burned in Arkansas during his childhood, but he was certainly never called on it.
So, what's the story on this Wasilla church? Who, or what, ended up being the culprit?
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#502241 - 01/10/11 08:19 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/11/06
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So, what's the story on this Wasilla church? Who, or what, ended up being the culprit?
It was basically completely ignored by the local liberal media as well as the national media in general. I don't think it was really investigated and the culprit was never found. I have no doubt it happened because of Palin, but no one in the media is ever going to investigate it. Imagine if Obama's church with Rev. Wright was burned down a month before the election.
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#502242 - 01/10/11 08:38 PM
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Even I haven't heard this one. Links?
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#502243 - 01/10/11 09:40 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/11/06
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Kinda hard to do this on my iPhone, but here is a start: Church arson. Otherwise Google: Sarah Palin church arson.
Edit: My mistake. It happened right after the election.
Edited by Steezo (01/10/11 09:44 PM)
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#502245 - 01/10/11 10:36 PM
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#502246 - 01/11/11 01:41 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 08/28/09
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Bill O'Reilly in his critique of the far left on his show on Monday pointed out how desperate the liberals are for a political victory. He also pointed out their hypocrisy on this particular issue. The Daily Kos had the same type of maps with the same guns sights on them, with one of bulls-eyes on Gifford’s district during her primary. Now when Sarah Palin does the exact same thing as those pinkos, she means for people to kill Democrats in those Districts.
People call Glenn Beck a conspiracy theorist when he says some of the Pinkocrates in Washington are Socialists, even though they are on tape proclaiming they are. In the same breath liberals will turn around and reach to make connections between the shooter and conservatives, reading into what Sarah Palin meant with her target chart and assuming the shooter was influenced by her chart when they really have no idea what was going on in this fucksticks mind. THAT'S a conspiracy theory for you commie fucks.
The shooter never mentioned Palin, Rush, Beck, the Tea Party, or Fox News in his Internet diatribes but the left wants to state for a fact that he was in the Tea Party and a Palin supporter. He was a registered Independent and didn’t vote in the last election, he is just BAT SHIT CRAZY!
The left was quick to tell people not to stereotype all dune coons when the Ft. Hood shooter went on his rampage for Islam. The second a white man does the same shit they want to group all white Republicans and Tea Party members in with him.
All of this shit from liberals is hate speech itself and now there is going to be a backlash against the liberals and their Jewish controlled media. These commie fucks should have kept their mouths shut instead of trying to use 9 year olds getting killed to bring down conservatives.
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#502247 - 01/11/11 02:26 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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oooh, wait. you mean that he didn't shoot all those people under direct orders from sarah palin and glen beck? good thing you cracked the case on that one! the liberals might have fooled everyone with their lies if it wasn't for you.
now hurry up and nut before your niece wakes up.
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#502248 - 01/11/11 06:30 AM
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Porn Jesus
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That's right he meant the shooter didn't receive direct orders from any politician. Good to see your reading comprehension skills aren't as poor as I first thought. Still crappy enough to mistake him for me. So I must assume your jr college education went unfinished.
In fact the shooter got no message from any politico, what so ever. The more that's coming out about this guy the less politically motivated he seems to have been. Looks like the Liberals lose another battle. It's kind of like November all over again, isn't it?
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#502249 - 01/11/11 06:34 AM
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Porn Jesus
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3) They treat adults like adults rather than pretending only a government can be the adult.
I'm not so sure this part applies, if what I've been reading over the last few years is to be believed.
Yeah, they treat adults like adults only if you say the right words. Stray from the politically correct dogma and you'll face imprisonment. That doesn't sound very adult to me.
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#502250 - 01/11/11 07:48 AM
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I was thinking more along the lines of how they're trying to Giulianify the fun sections of Amsterdam, but the two phenomena could be related.
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#502251 - 01/11/11 07:54 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Really? I didn't know they were doing that. That's about the only thing Amsterdam has going for it is the open brothels. Take that away and all you have left is just another European rathole slowly succumbing to Islamic domination.
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#502252 - 01/11/11 09:08 AM
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Porn Jesus
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New from Disney/ Pixar: Akhbar vs. the Whores
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#502254 - 01/11/11 11:18 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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That's right he meant the shooter didn't receive direct orders from any politician. Good to see your reading comprehension skills aren't as poor as I first thought. Still crappy enough to mistake him for me. So I must assume your jr college education went unfinished.
In fact the shooter got no message from any politico, what so ever. The more that's coming out about this guy the less politically motivated he seems to have been. Looks like the Liberals lose another battle. It's kind of like November all over again, isn't it?
why is getting into any kind of political discussion with a radical right winger always like stepping in dog shit?
you seem to think that you are winning some kind of debate that occurs only in your fragile imagination. when someone stops talking to you, it doesn't mean that you've "won" the argument. maybe they just find your flailing display of every human neurosis to be distasteful. in fact, i hadn't even read your multiple responses. that's how little i care what you think.
i'm sure you are a brilliant news analyst in the the dream universe that you inhabit. here on earth, you are still just a pitiful social reject trying desperately to get attention on a jerk off board.
here is one for you and jack. maybe you two can hang out and kiss while you rub your dicks together.
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#502255 - 01/11/11 11:34 AM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
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Really? I didn't know they were doing that. That's about the only thing Amsterdam has going for it is the open brothels. Take that away and all you have left is just another European rathole slowly succumbing to Islamic domination.
Even with Tolerance being one of the defining characteristics of the Dutch culture, perhaps they have learned that there is no margin in tolerating intolerance? (Anne Frank house being one of the tourist draws of the town.)
When cultures collide, whether through hearts or steel, they overthrow each other.
They've had more than 5 centuries of practice in that town in dealing with foreign cultures trying to change their ways. I'd not be quick to write down the Amsterdam story just yet, she has her charms.
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#502256 - 01/11/11 11:40 AM
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Porn Jesus
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why is getting into any kind of political discussion with a radical right winger always like stepping in dog shit?
you seem to think that you are winning some kind of debate that occurs only in your fragile imagination. when someone stops talking to you, it doesn't mean that you've "won" the argument. maybe they just find your flailing display of every human neurosis to be distasteful. in fact, i hadn't even read your multiple responses. that's how little i care what you think.
i'm sure you are a brilliant news analyst in the the dream universe that you inhabit. here on earth, you are still just a pitiful social reject trying desperately to get attention on a jerk off board.
here is one for you and jack. maybe you two can hang out and kiss while you rub your dicks together.
Yet you use the same attack on him that you use on me. I would find this denial funny if you weren't the fruit who squeals "DON'T SNITCH" like a stuck pig every time someone mentions the cops. You must be a drug dealer. If you do the crime then fairy up and do the time, so you can be that butt bleeding bitch you've always desired to be.
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#502257 - 01/11/11 11:45 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Even with Tolerance being one of the defining characteristics of the Dutch culture, perhaps they have learned that there is no margin in tolerating intolerance? (Anne Frank house being one of the tourist draws of the town.)
When cultures collide, whether through hearts or steel, they overthrow each other.
They've had more than 5 centuries of practice in that town in dealing with foreign cultures trying to change their ways. I'd not be quick to write down the Amsterdam story just yet, she has her charms.
Yes tolerance is certainly demonstrated by throwing those with opposing view points in jail. Just because you don't like what they're saying doesn't mean they don't have the right to say it.
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#502258 - 01/11/11 11:46 AM
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LOL it must hurt to be you
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#502259 - 01/11/11 11:57 AM
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Porn Jesus
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LOL it must hurt to be you
Anything worth having is worth suffering for.
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#502260 - 01/11/11 12:03 PM
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Even with Tolerance being one of the defining characteristics of the Dutch culture, perhaps they have learned that there is no margin in tolerating intolerance? (Anne Frank house being one of the tourist draws of the town.)
When cultures collide, whether through hearts or steel, they overthrow each other.
They've had more than 5 centuries of practice in that town in dealing with foreign cultures trying to change their ways. I'd not be quick to write down the Amsterdam story just yet, she has her charms.
Yes tolerance is certainly demonstrated by throwing those with opposing view points in jail. Just because you don't like what they're saying doesn't mean they don't have the right to say it.
Huh? Who was jailed in Holland for saying something?
Article 7 of the Dutch Grondwet grants everybody rights of no-prior censorship. Even Gregorius Nekschot was only arrested and not jailed. Don't know what you are on about here...
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#502261 - 01/11/11 12:23 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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So Gert Wilders isn't currently fighting for his freedom and freedom of speech? Or do you just dismiss him as a hate criminal out of hand and therefore not attribute what he says to freedom of speech?
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#502262 - 01/11/11 12:37 PM
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[tritone]The congresswoman should have dodged the bullets like she dodges the brothas.[/tritone]
I've actually got the hots for Sarah Palin more. God I would fuck that woman so hard.
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#502264 - 01/11/11 02:40 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/28/07
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Loc: The 4th International
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So Gert Wilders isn't currently fighting for his freedom and freedom of speech? Or do you just dismiss him as a hate criminal out of hand and therefore not attribute what he says to freedom of speech?
It's Geert, not Gert. And no, he is not fighting anything at the moment. The 'DA' office (not an elected official, btw) decided not to prosecute and dropped all charges more than a month ago. Don't know exactly why they didn't proceed with the trial. Probably got scared. And it turned into a bit of a TV show event. Lawyers challenging judges, judges speaking out in public, politicians talking before, during and after their turn.
I think Geert is a pretty dumb man with very abject opinions, but he's entitled to them. The bad thing is that he's costing Dutch tax payers a lot of money. For the rest, I don't give a flying fuck about Geert and his 'movement'. I only hope there are enough reasonable people left in my country to keep us from turning into a very bleak, isolated and self-centered land of 'wildgewordene Kleinbürger'.
Sidenote:
I'm glad that h2c is here to tell y'all what's happening in The Netherlands. He seems to be an expert.
Edit to add:
The proposed closing (or minimalization) of the red light district has been a topic for quite some years. It has nothing to do with the moral side of things. It's kind of a 'Free Zone' for people to do what they want. Which means that most brothels are owned and/or operated by criminal organizations (Russian, FYR, Hell's Angels, etc.). Drugs, weapons, false IDs, human trafficking, money laundering and more shady shit run rampant. It's beyond government control and Dutch officials don't handle loss of control easily.
This whole clean-up thing will fade away, as there are too many interests concerned.
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#502265 - 01/11/11 04:07 PM
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The proposed closing (or minimalization) of the red light district has been a topic for quite some years. It has nothing to do with the moral side of things. It's kind of a 'Free Zone' for people to do what they want. Which means that most brothels are owned and/or operated by criminal organizations (Russian, FYR, Hell's Angels, etc.). Drugs, weapons, false IDs, human trafficking, money laundering and more shady shit run rampant. It's beyond government control and Dutch officials don't handle loss of control easily.
This whole clean-up thing will fade away, as there are too many interests concerned.
Same deal with Times Square, but look what happened. I hope you're right.
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#502266 - 01/11/11 08:19 PM
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Registered: 01/30/08
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Bill Maher has turned into a funny guy to a fucking arrogant cocksucker. America is the ONLY country in the world that shoots its leaders? He needs to fucking look at India, Pakistan, most of the middle east, Africa etc. I officially fucking hate you now.... http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2011/01/11/video-bill-maher-weighs-in-on-tucson-shooting/
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#502269 - 01/12/11 05:33 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/09/06
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Loc: red dirt state of mind
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#502270 - 01/12/11 06:03 AM
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Registered: 10/19/06
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aww come on mr.2cit. please don't show these people how to separate emotion from logic. that's where most of my "wins" come from.
there's a nice smackdown in the comment section too..
@rogueronin82 You are a fucking moron, go away, and darken the doorsteps of reason no more.
that made my morning...thanks.
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