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This isn’t a closed loop system, the wealthy don’t take a bigger piece of the pie, they make more pie for everyone to take a slice of.




Whether it's closed loop or not, the richer are getting richer while the poor are getting poorer: Click

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They do share. It’s called jobs. Without which the government wouldn’t be able to collect any taxes and grow bigger and more crooked by the year.




True, but this country is entirely too financialized, e.g. over-concern with profits, stock prices. Labor needs to be worth more in this country. Hopefully the markets can figure that out on their own and no government intervention happens.

This shit with China making all the cheap stuff has only been going on like 30 years. Hopefully it's just a matter of the American market not adjusting yet.

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Actually you can if, you don’t have to buy a lot of union made crap that costs 5 times as much as should, and a great deal of the taxes you pay aren’t being put down on interest of the national debt instead of going to things like social security and medicare, so you have to pay even more taxes.




Who's buying shit made by American unions? All that stuff is made overseas. Even without unions, Americans couldn't compete on price. Those people work all day long for like a dollar an hour.

And, the poor and even a lot of the middle class aren't paying anything on the national debt. You saw those numbers being bandied around that with Obama's tax credits it was something like 50% of American families didn't even pay income taxes.


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Bullshit, we've been doing it for decades, good times and bad. I agree it's not good. But, unemployment comes from my salary.




Unemployment insurance needs to be completely reformed. It was a system designed long time ago (in the 50's I think) when people kept there same damn job their entire life and if they lost it they just went looking for another job doing the exact same thing. These days unemployment insurance needs to be about transition, where you can take a part time job making a lot less, spend time studying to adapt your career to the current environment, and still get some kind of subsidy through insurance so that you don't have to sit there and look for another job all day long. So that people can pull themselves up by their boot straps. McCain, who should have been president in '00 and in '08, talked about that in his campaigns.

Disability insurance needs to be completely reformed too. The market is set up so that if you lose your job, you lose your insurance. Not even COBRA for that stuff. And, entrepeuners are bad off with the current system too. Have you looked into buying disability insurance while working for yourself? It's impossible to get at first, and after you've shown a steady stream of income, it's ridiculously expensive as an individual.

They need to drop the social security disability program and de-couple disability insurance from your job, giving government subsidies to those who can't afford it on their own (which isn't go to cost that much, because their income that would be insured isn't that much anyway).

You decouple if from your job and not only is it easier for entrepreneurs to buy it, but you also eliminate a lot of discrimination. Where companies look at somebody who has a health condition and start to think twice about hiring him because if something does happen, they don't want their insurance premiums to get jacked up.

Same goes for health insurance.