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#499109 - 10/16/10 12:50 PM
Re: BREAKING NEWS: HIV outbreak?
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/03
Posts: 565
Loc: State of Moral Decay
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If you are in a hospital you can choose how much of your information the hospital is allowed to release. There are however, certain issues that cannot be released at any time. I think that the biggest question in all this is AIM's refusal to release the necessary information to California Public Health officials, which I believe, in HIV/AIDS cases is required.
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#499110 - 10/16/10 01:10 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 80
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How does the AIM quarentine work, exactly? Mope tests +. Do they call all the member companies and say they have an unnamed + and let them do what they will? Or do they send a press release? Or what?
Here is what I recall from reading about this the last time it occurred. When a performer is quarantined, AIM removes that individual's information from its database so their current test results cannot be checked or verified. Assuming that accepted procedures are followed, that prevents the performer from working.
What caused such a stir in 2009 was that the director (reportedly Tom Moore) allowed a female performer to work without having a current test. She had just been tested but the test results had been delayed for a second lab analysis because of a positive finding. Luckily she didn't infect anyone else she worked with on that occasion. She had worked very infrequently and so it was generally accepted that she became infected by contact outside the porn industry.
Judging from Tom Moore's background. I have a hunch that whatever he was filming involved at least some male-male bisexual/homosexual activity. He probably chose her for the scene because he knew that she was comfortable with it and it may well have been part of her private lifestyle.
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#499111 - 10/16/10 05:37 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 12/09/08
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Here's what I don't get. Cali is such a nanny state, I don't see how Cal- OSHA isn't all over the industry. And that they can just refuse to give County Health results. I would think there would be jail involved for refusing.
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#499112 - 10/16/10 05:56 PM
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Anonymous
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Nanny states are notorious for lengthy agency deliberation and timid, protracted litigation. It helps preserve the charade that they're actually doing something.
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#499113 - 10/16/10 05:58 PM
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^^^Not, mind you, that I think they actually should be doing something, because if they did, it would be something stupid like mandating a condom-only policy.
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#499114 - 10/16/10 05:58 PM
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#499116 - 10/16/10 11:31 PM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 06/16/07
Posts: 2512
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I fuck YOUR daughter and it's messed up how you keep trying to trick me into giving up details. Pervert. All I'm going to say is that her asshole is very hungry.
If I had a daughter, she could only be about 5 years of age, so you've just confessed your pedo leanings as well Coke, congrats.
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#499119 - 10/17/10 06:01 AM
Re: http://tinyurl.com/christianxxx
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 59
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Not donny, just a poster on the forum. And from what I've seen he has his own twitter account and site to criticize Christian with.
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#499120 - 10/17/10 09:33 AM
Re: BREAKING NEWS: HIV outbreak?
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/30/07
Posts: 80
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I think that the biggest question in all this is AIM's refusal to release the necessary information to California Public Health officials, which I believe, in HIV/AIDS cases is required.
There hasn't been a refusal. AIM said it would turn over the info to the LA County Health Dept. by Saturday, Oct. 16. That was the legal deadline, 7 days after discovery of the patient's HIV+ test.
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#499123 - 10/17/10 01:25 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 09/23/04
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So according to Mike South performers have deduced who patient zero is... So... who is it?
Seems like the fastest way to quell this is to release the names of the carriers.
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#499124 - 10/17/10 03:32 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 09/07/03
Posts: 565
Loc: State of Moral Decay
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A few posts here have mentioned that the HIPAA law prevents AIM from releasing this guy's name. However, considering this case involves a porn actor, would it be a violation to release his porn name?
For example, let's say somebody's real name is Joe Anderson and their porn name is Ray Princeton. Would it violate HIPAA if AIM said, "Ray Princeton has AIDS"?
I have some experience with HIPAA and I know that it protects personal information such as your real name but I don't know if it applies to aliases, stage names, pseudonyms, et cetera.
AIM Tests are done in your legal name. They ask for your "Screen name" as well. But you must prove your legal ID when the test is taken. Yes, AKAs are protected by HIPAA. So yes, HIPAA applies in all cases.
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#499125 - 10/17/10 03:56 PM
Re: http://tinyurl.com/christianxxx
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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Odd that Christian left the country on the day the outbreak news leaked.
http://twitter.com/christianxxx1/status/27180812295
At the airport terminal waiting for my flight. I am always early.
@MikeMoz hey i am in london. did the Rays win? if not, exactly who did they lose to?
http://twitter.com/christianxxx1/status/27488481350
i must be missing something. why is that odd? so let me get this straight. the industry is shut down for 2 weeks and the fact that I am using those 2 weeks to grab a vacation because i can't produce or performer is strange to you?
I am not under quarantine nor have i ever been, so once again, why is me deciding not to sit on my ass for 2 weeks odd or strange?
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#499127 - 10/17/10 08:01 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 06/30/07
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Is this the guy in question? The reports all say "porn star". I am pretty up to speed on most porn actors, stars or otherwise. But I've never heard of this guy.
It's getting more difficult to track a performer's work because most scenes shot for online content don't get listed on IAFD. This guy had apparently done a lot of that type of work with outfits like Bang Bros.
In that video where he and another gay dude are interviewed at Jet Set Men, he talks about his work in porn and emphasizes how much more he likes doing gay porn than straight porn. Says his favorite thing is taking it up the ass. But he used a different screen name for his gay work.and had reportedly passed himself off as straight to the women he performed with.
Interesting that there is also a copy of his online ad for his services as a gay hooker.
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#499131 - 10/18/10 08:44 PM
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/05/07
Posts: 529
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i don't know if it's funnier that christian twitters, or that he has A.I.D.S.
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#499132 - 10/18/10 09:21 PM
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Rob Black's Crack Pipe
Registered: 01/11/10
Posts: 53
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Penny Flame/Jennie Ketchum wrote this about Christian on The Huffington Post after a commentator attacked her article about the porn industry.
"Andrew Hooper" wrote this: Jennifer, you have been throwing people under the bus almost from the day you entered porn. (Folks should ask Christian what it was like to have you as a friend.) Your "recovery" is just the logical end of the pendulum's swing from enthusiastic sex worker to self-important civilian. If you want to leave the adult indistry behind, then stop talking about it. I think your real addiction is to attention, which Dr. Drew and his industry have been only too happy to enable. The only change I see in you is that you have stopped vicitimizing younger partners and have moved on to vicimizing other adult indistry members. Just leave us all alone, we don't need your "help."
Jennifer AKA Penny responded: hahaha WOW are you really going to use Christian as an example? Did you know when I asked that he use a condom when we work together he said I am not his real friend??? SO, real friends are willing to throw personal health and safety aside and have sex with people we think are performing in unsafe ways without a condom just because they are "real friends"? Get real dude... And are you actually in the business? Or do you just enjoy the personalities from behind the comfort of your computer where you can decide on whatever truths you need them to have in order to get off? As I've said many times before, I am not against pornography, but I do think it is important to discuss the negative repercussions of being a performer in that industry as very few women have had the courage to come forward and do so because of the negative responses they get from strange people with strange points such as yourself. If you are going to make a point, make sure it's a valid one. Bringing up Christian and saying I victimize people (be it my partners or people in the industry) are incongruent statements. I talk about the industry because it was a big part of my life, and healthy people are encouraged to discuss things that are on their minds. You don't need my help, you need more than I could ever provide.
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#499133 - 10/19/10 01:17 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/26/06
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Loc: Keen for Peen
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CXXX, I dig you, but if you're so savvy about finances, dont you think last min airfare to Europe is an unwise expense? Thats got to be hella expensive.
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#499135 - 10/19/10 09:24 AM
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Porn Jesus
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judging by a few posts i think cumstains is actually a girl.
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#499137 - 10/20/10 02:07 AM
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Registered: 07/05/05
Posts: 2134
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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CXXX, I dig you, but if you're so savvy about finances, dont you think last min airfare to Europe is an unwise expense? Thats got to be hella expensive.
1. it was only 1000 bucks
2. i have had a very good financial year
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#499138 - 10/20/10 02:10 AM
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Registered: 07/05/05
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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From a post i made on NCC
The real threat comes from the actions and behaviors of people OFF CAMERA. For better or worse, the people who enter our business usually do so because they are completely broke, drug addicts looking to make big money to score drugs, or people that washed out of mainstream society. These people are the polar opposite of the males and females who have forged a career for themselves in this business and want that career to last as long as possible.
I am part of the second group. I have been doing this since 2003 now, and I will continue doing this as long as I possibly can. I love this business, even though it is very stressful and lonely at times. I have forged a pretty decent career in front of the camera, and now I am trying to forge a decent career behind the camera as well. I would never put that career or my years of hard work in jeopardy. My time off camera is spent working out, playing warcraft, and sitting in front of my computer. I don't drink. I have never touched a drug in my life. I don't go out clubbing. I have sex off camera maybe 2 times a week with other tested female performers.
I definitely do not want to get sick, get HIV, hell get anything. It makes no sense. I worked my butt off to get to where I am in this business, so now I am going to do something risky and throw it all away AND get an incurable life-changing disease as well? Who believes that? Do I perform in scenes that are higher risk than normal Boy Girl scenes? Technically, I will say yes because a TS girl is still not a different gender. But again, there are usually condoms involved, and all TS girls are AIM tested just like me. Also, I have never done an anal creampie scene with a girl or TS girl ever (or at least that I can remember). TS scenes constitute 1 scene every other month at most for me. I take all the precautions I can. But once again, the problems this business has are the behaviors of people OFF camera and not ON camera. I will never see myself as one of the riskiest people in this business. I take too many precautions and follow every general rule that I can.
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#499139 - 10/20/10 03:18 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/25/04
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The real threat comes from the actions and behaviors of people OFF CAMERA. For better or worse, the people who enter our business usually do so because they are completely broke, drug addicts looking to make big money to score drugs, or people that washed out of mainstream society. These people are the polar opposite of the males and females who have forged a career for themselves in this business and want that career to last as long as possible.
I am part of the second group.
Forgive my ignorance, but don't people from the second group tend to work with members of the first group, ohh say on a regular basis?
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I would never put that career or my years of hard work in jeopardy. My time off camera is spent working out, playing warcraft, and sitting in front of my computer. I don't drink. I have never touched a drug in my life. I don't go out clubbing. I have sex off camera maybe 2 times a week with other tested female performers.
I definitely do not want to get sick, get HIV, hell get anything. It makes no sense. I worked my butt off to get to where I am in this business, so now I am going to do something risky and throw it all away AND get an incurable life-changing disease as well? Who believes that? Do I perform in scenes that are higher risk than normal Boy Girl scenes? Technically, I will say yes because a TS girl is still not a different gender. But again, there are usually condoms involved, and all TS girls are AIM tested just like me. Also, I have never done an anal creampie scene with a girl or TS girl ever (or at least that I can remember). TS scenes constitute 1 scene every other month at most for me. I take all the precautions I can. But once again, the problems this business has are the behaviors of people OFF camera and not ON camera. I will never see myself as one of the riskiest people in this business. I take too many precautions and follow every general rule that I can.
You are pathological liar, you are a risky performer, and for you to deny that is insulting to the people who you work with in the biz. You have performed in gay sex videos without the use of a condom, you have done gay escorting off camera, you have worked with ts girls (which you admit to) who are usually from south american or asian countries and have been hot spots for previous outbreak cases.
Then add on the fact you have unprotected sex with lots of straight performers on the regular isnt exactly risk free, especially when you apply the two tier christian theory.
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#499140 - 10/20/10 06:44 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 05/21/07
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The problem with Christian's last post isn't that he is somehow risky (arguing that he is for stuff he did years ago -- when he has obviously tested negative multiple times since then), but that "category 2 -- porn lifers" is somehow safer than "category 1" new arrivals. The fact is the last three previous "Patient Zeros" were Marc Wallice, John Stagliano and Darren James were all firmly in "category 2" -- they were porn lifers (in fairness I should add that Stagliano didn't infect anyone, but the other two certainly did). So this cat 1/cat 2 stuff boils down to simple protectionism by established performers against newcomers there to compete for work. The only thing that can protect the industry is testing, testing and more testing (and they should test for hepatitis as well -- AFAIK hep B/C aren't curable and certainly can kill you). To the extent that gay porn/straight porn crossover is a problem has to do with lack of testing on the gay side -- if HIV- status was a requirement to work in gay porn with rigorous testing to back it up, it wouldn't be such a big issue. Right now unfortunately it is, and no one actively doing untested shoots should be allowed in the straight industry. That said the straight porn industry is in fact extremely safe -- if you compare known HIV rates for porn mopes/sluts vs. the general population, porn performers are far less likely to become infected: Quote:
HIV Prevalence Estimate
Prevalence is the number of people living with HIV infection at the end of a given year.
At the end of 2006, an estimated 1,106,400 persons (95% confidence interval 1,056,400-1,156,400) in the United States were living with HIV infection, with 21% undiagnosed.1
For more information see "HIV in the United States."
1 CDC. HIV Prevalence Estimates—United States, 2006. MMWR 2008;57(39):1073-76.
The total adult population in the US is 228,182, 000 (2008 stats), so the HIV rate in the general population is ~.5% or 1 in 200 -- far higher than the the proportion of people who have tested positive in the industry vs the total number of performers.
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#499143 - 10/21/10 12:44 AM
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AC Cream Wannabe
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anyone else find the penny flame fuck flicks even more boner inducing nowadays...its like her soul is forever held in a degrading cage of porn
existential awesomeness
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#499144 - 10/21/10 01:22 AM
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Whoremaster
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Dishonesty and deception is the very core of the tranny culture. They evaluate and rank themselves on how "passable" they are. The implicit meaning is for straight guys to not find out until it's "too late." I assume this tactic works because trannies are the frequent recipients of beat downs and yet they continue to engage in their devious shit.
JasonH seems to know an awful lot about 'tranny culture' and has a lot of resentment towards devious trannies.
The idea that a straight guy gets tricked into fucking a tranny is bloody ridiculous, you'd have to be blind to not spot 99 percent of trannies in real life, the only one here in denial is JasonH about that time he was 'accidentally' blown by a chick with a dick.
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#499145 - 10/21/10 01:25 AM
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Whoremaster
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judging by a few posts i think cumstains is actually a girl.
I think that would be the first time in internet history that a woman pretended to be a fag.
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#499147 - 10/21/10 07:34 AM
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Internet Tough Guy
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it happened to fatlip"you changed my life forever"
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#499149 - 10/21/10 04:40 PM
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Welcome barry , your amongst friends here.
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#499150 - 10/21/10 04:48 PM
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#499151 - 10/21/10 07:21 PM
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Gay For Pay
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JasonH seems to know an awful lot about 'tranny culture' and has a lot of resentment towards devious trannies.
This is the most tired and weak internet comeback ever. "blah, blah, blah, you must have been close to group x who you have targeted for your aggression, blah, blah, blah."
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...bloody ridiculous.
The only people who would use these two words together are britfags, and dumb ass Americans who think Britain something other than a fail nation of nigger loving, multicultural shit. Are you just a Christian sycophant who thinks British shit is cool because he does?
No matter how you reply, you will only dig yourself deeper into a hole of fail, which I would bet bears a striking resemblance to the soon to be prolapsed, AIDS infected rectum of our own resident tranny fucker. Please, go fuck yourself.
Even broccoli Knox can bring better hate to the table than you.
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#499152 - 10/21/10 07:41 PM
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...bloody ridiculous.
The only people who would use these two words together are britfags, and dumb ass Americans who think Britain something other than a fail nation of nigger loving, multicultural shit. Are you just a Christian sycophant who thinks British shit is cool because he does?
No matter how you reply, you will only dig yourself deeper into a hole of fail, which I would bet bears a striking resemblance to the soon to be prolapsed, AIDS infected rectum of our own resident tranny fucker. Please, go fuck yourself.
The full quote was:
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The idea that a straight guy gets tricked into fucking a tranny is bloody ridiculous
and, for all its limeyness, your overreaction was more than Seaoneesque. That was flat-out trying too hard. But then you had to go wrap yourself in the flag, so to speak:
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Even broccoli Knox can bring better hate to the table than you.
Say goodnight, Gracie.
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#499153 - 10/21/10 11:45 PM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 03/21/08
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From a post i made on NCC
The real threat comes from the actions and behaviors of people OFF CAMERA. For better or worse, the people who enter our business usually do so because they are completely broke, drug addicts looking to make big money to score drugs, or people that washed out of mainstream society. These people are the polar opposite of the males and females who have forged a career for themselves in this business and want that career to last as long as possible.
Save us the revisionist history. Who was wallowing in debt, having made no progress in mainstream society? A lack of discipline to build any real career was quickly parlayed into swallowing penis on film, while selling rectum to plague carrying freaks of nature in private.
In spite of your lack of fortitude to succeed in the real world, you've done well in this one.
I suggest finding some actual investments though, cash is for boneheads.
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#499154 - 10/22/10 01:49 AM
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Whoremaster
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The only people who would use these two words together are britfags, and dumb ass Americans...No matter how you reply, you will only dig yourself deeper into a hole of fail...
I'm not American. Nice attempt at the end of your temper tantrum to close down any further back-and-forth with a 'anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you' escape hatch. I don't give a shit about Christian one way or the other, I just find your out-of-whack pathological hatred for some mope amusing.
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#499155 - 10/23/10 01:20 AM
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Ed Hardy Wearing Loser
Registered: 05/12/08
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Do I perform in scenes that are higher risk than normal Boy Girl scenes? Technically, I will say yes because a TS girl is still not a different gender. But again, there are usually condoms involved, and all TS girls are AIM tested just like me. Also, I have never done an anal creampie scene with a girl or TS girl ever (or at least that I can remember). TS scenes constitute 1 scene every other month at most for me. I take all the precautions I can. But once again, the problems this business has are the behaviors of people OFF camera and not ON camera. I will never see myself as one of the riskiest people in this business. I take too many precautions and follow every general rule that I can.
Please....quit trying to be so PC...."TS girl" is a bullshit term. You are fucking or being fucked by MEN. Calling someone with a penis a "girl" makes no fucking sense whatsoever.
Edited by Zymrgy (10/23/10 01:21 AM)
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