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#49581 - 08/24/04 11:38 AM
Re: Neo-Nazis and their Proud Aryan Women
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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Dunno about that, I just like the uniforms. However, I agree that these fucktards and drooling defectives would be the first in the ovens if Uncle Dolfie came back with a chip on his shoulder.
lol I've thought the same thing. For people who claim to be White Supremists, none of them look particularly Supreme. I'd say most of them look a couple of chromosomes short of a full supply.
On top of it there skin is usually so tattooed you can't even make lampshades out of them. What a waste. 
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#49582 - 08/25/04 04:06 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 10/29/03
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Nazi skinheads are the stupidest lot of idjits next to the Klan & they'd be the first to go after they served their purposes. Remember the Night Of the Long Knives? Anyway, Hitler wasn't too bright, either. Attacking Russia was a foolishly fatal mistake & he'd NEVER would've defeated the British.
The only one I can't hate is Rommel, the Desert Fox. At least he was smart enough to know Hitler had to go. Too bad the coup failed. Rommel was a tactical genius & true German, not a diehard Nazi fool. 
But in the end he played the wrong cards.... the Ace of Spades. 
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#49583 - 08/25/04 04:13 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/19/04
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I think Germany had some really good generals in WW2- Rommel being my pick for the best too. I think even our military leaders would agree with their epertise on the battlefield.
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#49584 - 08/25/04 04:16 PM
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Demon Spawn
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Nazi skinheads are the stupidest lot of idjits next to the Klan & they'd be the first to go after they served their purposes. Remember the Night Of the Long Knives? Anyway, Hitler wasn't too bright, either. Attacking Russia was a foolishly fatal mistake & he'd NEVER would've defeated the British.
The only one I can't hate is Rommel, the Desert Fox. At least he was smart enough to know Hitler had to go. Too bad the coup failed. Rommel was a tactical genius & true German, not a diehard Nazi fool.
But in the end he played the wrong cards.... the Ace of Spades.
Whoa, I agree with skinheads part of it; but, Hitler had no choice in the matter of attacking Russia. The Russian's turned and had to be dealt with. Only thing Hitler did wrong was not develop his 4 engine bomber and missile technology. He would have stamped the British into the ground and won the war if he had shifted his resources around. It would have happened too but a few key players on the German side died in freak accidents and some other unfortunate circumstances happened. Ehh, I'm sure Hitler was just a shadow compared to the great machine powering up in the Republic of America.
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#49586 - 08/25/04 04:27 PM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 02/12/04
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There were a number of German generals... List, Goderian, Rommel, etc. And yeah, American generals would agree--after the war and to this very day, the battles on the Eastern Front and the Desert Campaigns are still discussed and debated at the War College in Carlisle, from what I understand.
We still know only the general outline of the battles on the Eastern Front--and most of that from captured Russian documents (mostly from Gehlen's organization) that we later captured from the Germans. For instance, historians just began to examine what was supposedly a battle involving more than a million men, Zhukov vs. Goderian, mano a mano, that no one had even heard of before.
As for the armies... psht... The Hun got his wings clipped but good by the Slavic bastards. They developed a simple system in the last year: they'd mount supply convoys with nothing but ammo and fuel. No clothes, no boots, no food. Anything the Red Army needed, they were told to take from the people they just "liberated" (including apparently a few tens of thousands of German women). Half of 'em were from Siberia and had scarcely handled a working wristwatch before. Nazis vs. Communism, and the better system of totalitarianism won out, I'm sad to say.
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#49588 - 08/25/04 04:47 PM
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Demon Spawn
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The Germans were eventually driven out of Russia by wave after wave of human cannon fodder who had no choice but to over-run the Nazis or face the wrath of Red Army guns trained on their backs. Yet, their triumphant form of Totalitarianism eventually broke down due to financial ruin. Hence, the mighty strength of American capitalism won the Cold War although all empires are destined to fall . However, according to some end-time prophecies the Roman Empire will reconstitute itself as Babylon the Great crumbles. 
Kind of, the Roman empire is America... they are both republics. That empire is supposed to fall. Gaa, I can't remember the whole prophecy. Something like the king of the north will rise (?America?) become a great power and the king of the east or west will destroy him becoming the great serpent (?Babylon?). Well I'll look it up later tonight, but there is a great power to rise and then another shortly after it. The second power is supposedly someone that has never had a foot as a large power in the world before.
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#49589 - 08/25/04 06:30 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 10/29/03
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To think this thread of arcane wisdom all started because of Bianca Trump's Nazi metamorphisis.
Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire
... There will be False Christs. Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire? Should We Study
End-Time Prophecy? ... Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire? Contender Ministries. ...
www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/romanempire.php
America Becomes Babylon Officially In God's Eyes in 2003
America Becomes Babylon Officially in God’s Eyes in 2003. ... America began
its quest to become Mystery Babylon from its very inception in 1776. ...
www.aoreport.com/americabecomesbabylon2003.htm
The Spear Of Destiny
... earlier century of history - that I myself had once claimed it as my talisman of
power and held the destiny of the ... Adolf Hitler seized the Spear in the ...
www.geocities.com/Heartland/8303/spear.htm
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#49590 - 08/25/04 06:35 PM
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Demon Spawn
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Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire
... There will be False Christs. Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire? Should We Study
End-Time Prophecy? ... Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire? Contender Ministries. ...
www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/romanempire.php
America Becomes Babylon Officially In God's Eyes in 2003
America Becomes Babylon Officially in God’s Eyes in 2003. ... America began
its quest to become Mystery Babylon from its very inception in 1776. ...
www.aoreport.com/americabecomesbabylon2003.htm
Excellent links. Yes you are correct with those... I'm home now flipping through my various books on the subject, they are not current with the war but they do match up.
America is the new Babylon supposedly but the empire that rises up next is not necessarily the EU. To be continued I suppose.
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#49591 - 08/25/04 06:38 PM
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Demon Spawn
Registered: 07/07/04
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Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire
... There will be False Christs. Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire? Should We Study
End-Time Prophecy? ... Is the EU the Revived Roman Empire? Contender Ministries. ...
www.contenderministries.org/prophecy/romanempire.php
America Becomes Babylon Officially In God's Eyes in 2003
America Becomes Babylon Officially in God’s Eyes in 2003. ... America began
its quest to become Mystery Babylon from its very inception in 1776. ...
www.aoreport.com/americabecomesbabylon2003.htm
Excellent links. Yes you are correct with those... I'm home now flipping through my various books on the subject, they are not current with the war but they do match up.
America is the new Babylon supposedly but the empire that rises up next is not necessarily the EU. To be continued I suppose.
Ahh an interesting thing my friend just yelled at me is that supposedly some people think the US is going to fragment and the fragmented part will be Roman Empire.
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#49592 - 08/25/04 06:47 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Cue the Twilight Zone theme into your head: 
The Spear Of Destiny
... earlier century of history - that I myself had once claimed it as my talisman of
power and held the destiny of the ... Adolf Hitler seized the Spear in the ...
www.geocities.com/Heartland/8303/spear.htm
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#49593 - 08/25/04 06:52 PM
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Demon Spawn
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Cue the Twilight Zone theme into your head:
The Spear Of Destiny
... earlier century of history - that I myself had once claimed it as my talisman of
power and held the destiny of the ... Adolf Hitler seized the Spear in the ...
www.geocities.com/Heartland/8303/spear.htm
That's pretty cool, I heard about that once. Thanks for the link.
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#49594 - 08/26/04 05:39 AM
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Chronic Masturbator
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as far as skinheads and racism in general... i disagree highly with it... i know too much about anthropology to be racist... being from the south i associate them with the shallow end of the gene pool.
not to mention they tend to be Christian.... an automatic loss in my book.
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#49595 - 08/26/04 07:29 AM
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Human Garbage
Registered: 02/12/04
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There are the Christian Identity fuckers, who believe that the Israelites were really "Aryans" and Jews are the literal (and I do mean literal) Children of Satan. But there's also the straight out National Socialist strain who are atheists. This is my favorite modern Nazi: Kevin Alfred Strom . He has a voice that quivers and a slight lisp and basically appears to be in this game for the homoerotic imagery. Check out his photo album, which looks like great fodder for future avatars.
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#49597 - 08/27/04 02:03 AM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
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True, Russia had to be dealt with sooner or later, but his mistake was the sooner part because he had more fronts then he could handle. Even still, if things went down differently, eventually the American death machine would've grounded Germany into dog food anyway
Hitler's timing on the attack was nearly perfect, maybe 60 days late. Stalin had decapitated the military leadership and had no competent generals, nor any material or planning in place. Stalin absolutely believed there would be no attack, and the best time to hit is when the other guy believes it will never happen, is totally unprepared, and has no means of getting organized once the attack begins.
Had Hitler waited Russia would have been somewhat better prepared. And there were no other fronts to speak of: compared to Barbarossa everything else was a mere distraction.
It is my opinion that America could not have defeated Nazi Germany had Russia not been in the war. I simply don't see any successful strategy for doing it. Russia, on the other hand, certainly would have defeated Germany without Britain or the US since Russia did essentially do just that. At worst, had Britain surrendered and the US never gone to war, the Germans might have held off the Russians until 1946 but no more.
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They developed a simple system in the last year: they'd mount supply convoys with nothing but ammo and fuel. No clothes, no boots, no food. Anything the Red Army needed, they were told to take from the people they just "liberated" (including apparently a few tens of thousands of German women)
The Russian generals didn't like this at all, not one bit. It was very bad for discipline to have soldiers off looking for food or women instead of moving forward or organizing for it. But those were Stalin's orders, and that was that.
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The Germans were eventually driven out of Russia by wave after wave of human cannon fodder who had no choice but to over-run the Nazis or face the wrath of Red Army guns trained on their backs.
It was the NKVD that ran the machine-gun squads to prevent retreat. The NKVD was not part of the Red Army in any way and reported to Lavrenty Beria (a truly evil man - a worthy choice for Zenman's avatar), thence Stalin.
This really wasn't necessary once the Russians began recovering territory and the soldiers began seeing with their own eyes what the Nazis had done.
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#49598 - 08/27/04 07:01 AM
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Porn Jesus
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I dunno, the U.S. could've defeated Germany with the nuke or continued bombing campaigns like Dresden. It has long been since regarded Hitler had too many fronts, thus straining his dwindling capacity to maintain necessary supplies & reinforcements. The Russians were totally unprepared because of the treaty it signed with Germany. As for speculation had fate proved otherwise: Eventually, once Germany had solidified the Reich with the conquering of Europe, the push for Russia would've been more logical. Plus, Hitler would've never defeated Britain, unless his nuke plans were soon realized. who knows...
"NKVD (Narodnii Komissiariat Vnutrennik Del aka People's Comissiriat for Internal Affairs) controlled several Red Army regiments, each with a compliment of twenty sabotage commandos. These units were charged with the destruction of roads, railways, works of art, bridges, factories, electric power stations, dams, etc. for puposes of sabotage and destruction"
aka scorched earth...
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#49600 - 08/27/04 03:52 PM
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Porn Jesus
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hitler's hardon for tanks and u-boats with torpedoes that worked 18% if the time wasted his resources.
aircraft carriers and long-range heavy bombers(not something named a "junkers") reduces russian yaks and nonexistant radar to starvation and surrender fast.
the germans just needed range-they blew every decision starting with too many mess.109's when the fw-190 got them hundreds of miles and signifigantly longer time in british skies for less cash. the all-time tonnage leader for submariners was captured in 1941 and from a year or so later, their expensive program was harmless.
big planes, big bombs, fighter support and carriers would have given them the uk and joey.
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#49601 - 08/27/04 06:16 PM
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Demon Spawn
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hitler's hardon for tanks and u-boats with torpedoes that worked 18% if the time wasted his resources.
aircraft carriers and long-range heavy bombers(not something named a "junkers") reduces russian yaks and nonexistant radar to starvation and surrender fast.
the germans just needed range-they blew every decision starting with too many mess.109's when the fw-190 got them hundreds of miles and signifigantly longer time in british skies for less cash. the all-time tonnage leader for submariners was captured in 1941 and from a year or so later, their expensive program was harmless.
big planes, big bombs, fighter support and carriers would have given them the uk and joey.
Yea, it would have happened but the guy that was pushing Hitler to use 4 engine bombers died in a test flight. I wish I could remember his name. Anyway, after he died Hitler went and made a fuck load of tanks and it was downhill from there.
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#49603 - 08/28/04 09:42 AM
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Porn Jesus
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arab, great points. i see that conflict as a line of demarcation between the era of troops and trenches and the current " faceless death from above" strategy currently favored. the nazis had one foot a little too far in the former without a viable heavy bomber and pouring money into supertigers that ate the fuel you just spoke about like harry weiss eats kfc. sure, vietnam, iraq, and a few others give momentum to the "you stilll need a strong land army" theory, but we were bombing strategically more often than for body count. Before the threat of someone sending an icbm with a physics experiment in the warhead at you for being too ruthless in killing civilians, heavy tonnage on a country without great food stores or having the ground cover a jungle provides you would be devestating. B-17 tonnage dropped on Russia, lacking weird tunnels to burrow into that asian countries seem to have or any signifigant means of anti-aircraft defense would have been a big deal. armored cavalry was, like, soooo last century. and it takes gas and tons of it. why bother if you're already at peace with killing women and children from above so you can wait for secondary effects of massive bombing campaigns like disease and starvation to kill off a few cities before you go clean up the mess and pilfer stoli from the deceased.
drop a carrier or 2 in the black and the bosphorus around 1941 when the allies didn't have the p-47/51s or spitfire variants with drop tanks and uboats were still viable and you gain a nice way to russia.
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#49604 - 08/28/04 08:37 PM
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Human Garbage
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That's true, I never thought of that. It also could have had a pretty dramatic psychological effect on the Turks and essentially made the step into the Middle East via Ankara much, much easier. On the other hand there's still the problem of how to get them to the Bosphorus to begin with. Germany didn't have any European mediteranean ports and England would have figured out even sooner than the Japanese how vulnerable ships are to land-based aircraft if they had tried sailing it through the channel.
The amazing thing to me is that Germany got as far as they did. Even toward the end of the war when the armies were in retreat in the East they still had these divisions which, while not at full strength, could have taken France in a couple of weeks. Hell, one parachute (battalion? I don't remember) took Albania after Italy dropped out (before anyone laughs, take a look at a terrain map sometime. And Albania had a pretty nasty partisan movement to contend with.)
I can't believe I'm talking about Albanian partisans here. This board fucking rules. 
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#49605 - 08/28/04 08:44 PM
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Demon Spawn
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That's true, I never thought of that. It also could have had a pretty dramatic psychological effect on the Turks and essentially made the step into the Middle East via Ankara much, much easier. On the other hand there's still the problem of how to get them to the Bosphorus to begin with. Germany didn't have any European mediteranean ports and England would have figured out even sooner than the Japanese how vulnerable ships are to land-based aircraft if they had tried sailing it through the channel.
The amazing thing to me is that Germany got as far as they did. Even toward the end of the war when the armies were in retreat in the East they still had these divisions which, while not at full strength, could have taken France in a couple of weeks. Hell, one parachute (battalion? I don't remember) took Albania after Italy dropped out (before anyone laughs, take a look at a terrain map sometime. And Albania had a pretty nasty partisan movement to contend with.)
I can't believe I'm talking about Albanian partisans here. This board fucking rules.
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#49606 - 08/28/04 08:46 PM
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Demon Spawn
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Albania had seen quite a bit of troubles during the inter-war years, experiencing both coups, counter-coups and even several invasions. Eventually, after being under foreign influence ever since its formation, Albania was invaded by Italy in April 1939, and then placed in a personal union with Italy under the Italian king.
At first slowly, then, as the Italians suffered defeat on defeat on other fronts, faster and faster, an Albanian partisan movement (the ALNA) began emerging, strongly controlled by the communists. As in Greece, it only really started to gain strength during 1943, when it began to form its first divisions, but from then on it began expanding rapidly, finally to emerge as the only partisan movement having freed its country totally on it self from the Axis, and also having helped to liberate neighboring Yugoslavia.
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#49607 - 08/28/04 08:57 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 08/20/04
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Neo Nazis scare me. 
Take the geekest neo nazi and put a deadly weapon in his hand while in the midst of a group of like minded Einsteins and he suddenly grows brass balls.
Neo Nazis please don't kill me. 
But if you are going to do it anyways then you can kiss my smelly ass. 
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