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It's all in how you look at things, Chuck. I see politics less as a Democrat vs. Republican thing or even Conservative vs. Liberal. I think the real dichotomy of politics is Progressive vs. Libertarian. Libertarians believe government should be smaller, tax people and businesses less, and protect personal freedoms. Progressives believe in a bigger government, higher taxes, and more control over personal freedoms. Under that definition the last four presidents definitely qualify as Progressives.



You misrepresent what progressives are for. We've had maybe one progressive President, in recent history - FDR?

Progressives are all for protecting personal liberties. Libertarians vote Republican, and side with the "Christian" conservatives. But, you will lie about that.

Libertarians are liars. How many Government programs did you benefit from today? Don't forget to include the DARPAnet. Water, sewer, transportation? Breathe clean air? Use any currency? Drive a car with any safety devices? Look forward to a weekend? Get anything like a phone call, TV or radio report, or GPS location that involved a satellite? Eat non-rancid food? Idiots.
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