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#49363 - 08/23/04 06:59 AM
How much $$$ does it take?
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Pervert
Registered: 05/31/03
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How much money would you say it takes to start up a website or websites like the bangbus, captain stabbin, or meatholes? I know the main thing other than server space and web design is that you'd plenty of content filmed before the site went live and got its first member. But how much money would you say one needs? (I"m purely curious, not looking to jump into online porn - that is, unless I can do it for $2.00 and some pocket lint)
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#49364 - 08/23/04 07:15 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/14/04
Posts: 164
Loc: Sin City
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Most content companies including us charge $2,000 per exclusive boy/girl scene. So, you would need to pay that or shoot it yourself. It would cost $800-$1,500 for the design.
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#49365 - 08/23/04 07:49 AM
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Pervert
Registered: 05/31/03
Posts: 2211
Loc: TX
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Shooting it yourself though I would imagine to be cheaper. However, being in Texas, it might take some work to find some girls, or cost to get some sent in... or cost to go to the talent.
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#49367 - 08/23/04 10:45 AM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 03/12/03
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Maybe Zack Miles is out of prison and he can help you shoot it. Lol, Malice 
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#49368 - 08/23/04 01:59 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 08/03/03
Posts: 5849
Loc: TX, USA
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Most content companies including us charge $2,000 per exclusive boy/girl scene. So, you would need to pay that or shoot it yourself. It would cost $800-$1,500 for the design.
The biggy is likely to be the fact the revenues lag expenses a lot: the first paying customer won't drop that first dollar until after you've got a site up, with bandwidth, web design, several scenes, and a record of new material on a regular basis. There will be no revenue for a while, and it will take longer still until income covers expenses. Any start-up is always a race between bankruptcy and revenue growth.
Does ~ $2,000 get footage edited and ready to put on a web site with no further editing, all 2257 paperwork in order and everything? That sounds pretty good if the money gets MPEGs that can be just dropped onto the server as-is.
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#49369 - 08/24/04 05:59 AM
Re: How much $$$ does it take?
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Pervert
Registered: 05/31/03
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Loc: TX
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Oh, I know the revenue lags the spending (which is a big reason that I'm just looking at this academicly and not actually trying to put something up - I do have ideas though).
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#49370 - 08/24/04 09:09 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/14/04
Posts: 164
Loc: Sin City
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Most content companies including us charge $2,000 per exclusive boy/girl scene. So, you would need to pay that or shoot it yourself. It would cost $800-$1,500 for the design.
The biggy is likely to be the fact the revenues lag expenses a lot: the first paying customer won't drop that first dollar until after you've got a site up, with bandwidth, web design, several scenes, and a record of new material on a regular basis. There will be no revenue for a while, and it will take longer still until income covers expenses. Any start-up is always a race between bankruptcy and revenue growth.
Does ~ $2,000 get footage edited and ready to put on a web site with no further editing, all 2257 paperwork in order and everything? That sounds pretty good if the money gets MPEGs that can be just dropped onto the server as-is.
Typically no, we just send the raw mini-dv's but we are flexible. Releases and IDs yes of course.
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#49371 - 08/24/04 07:28 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 09/22/03
Posts: 702
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Most content companies including us charge $2,000 per exclusive boy/girl scene. So, you would need to pay that or shoot it yourself. It would cost $800-$1,500 for the design.
The biggy is likely to be the fact the revenues lag expenses a lot: the first paying customer won't drop that first dollar until after you've got a site up, with bandwidth, web design, several scenes, and a record of new material on a regular basis. There will be no revenue for a while, and it will take longer still until income covers expenses. Any start-up is always a race between bankruptcy and revenue growth.
Does ~ $2,000 get footage edited and ready to put on a web site with no further editing, all 2257 paperwork in order and everything? That sounds pretty good if the money gets MPEGs that can be just dropped onto the server as-is.
Typically no, we just send the raw mini-dv's but we are flexible. Releases and IDs yes of course.
You're talking a fully edited 'raw mini-dv', right? One that you could just pop into a DSR-11, firewire into a puter, then upload to a site?
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#49372 - 08/24/04 08:30 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/14/04
Posts: 164
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Most content companies including us charge $2,000 per exclusive boy/girl scene. So, you would need to pay that or shoot it yourself. It would cost $800-$1,500 for the design.
The biggy is likely to be the fact the revenues lag expenses a lot: the first paying customer won't drop that first dollar until after you've got a site up, with bandwidth, web design, several scenes, and a record of new material on a regular basis. There will be no revenue for a while, and it will take longer still until income covers expenses. Any start-up is always a race between bankruptcy and revenue growth.
Does ~ $2,000 get footage edited and ready to put on a web site with no further editing, all 2257 paperwork in order and everything? That sounds pretty good if the money gets MPEGs that can be just dropped onto the server as-is.
Typically no, we just send the raw mini-dv's but we are flexible. Releases and IDs yes of course.
You're talking a fully edited 'raw mini-dv', right? One that you could just pop into a DSR-11, firewire into a puter, then upload to a site?
Yep.
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#49373 - 08/24/04 10:13 PM
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Internet Tough Guy
Registered: 01/25/04
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You could probably get the design done for around $500.
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#49377 - 09/02/06 10:44 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
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when we started I think it was 150k investment...but that was for 5 sites (10 scenes 10 in the can each). Plus getting the office together with computer, rent, payroll, etc...
Plus when we opened we had payed for a bit of advertising and made the cash back FAST.... 
$150K startup for 10 sites??? Thats fuckin' crazy shit! I wonder what he meant by 'a bit of advertising'???
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#49380 - 09/03/06 09:14 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 08/27/06
Posts: 310
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i think porn is hurting these days because it is just pretty much sucking...all this extreme gonzo retarded shit is old and not very arousing for the average dude that doesnt have a hate fuck fantasy or a police record. need to smear some more fucking vaseline on that camera lense and play some Raffi or some shit!@ 
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#49384 - 09/04/06 11:31 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
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when we started I think it was 150k investment...but that was for 5 sites (10 scenes 10 in the can each). Plus getting the office together with computer, rent, payroll, etc...
Plus when we opened we had payed for a bit of advertising and made the cash back FAST....
$150K startup for 10 sites??? Thats fuckin' crazy shit! I wonder what he meant by 'a bit of advertising'???
That post was in 2004. Things have changed. Don't get excited and cash in the 401K to start a porn business.
Gia,
I know the post was circa 2004. I just was browsing when I stumbled upon it and thought the figures were a total joke. It can't be more than $1.29 to start a website today - just a little less than back then...
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#49385 - 09/09/06 09:17 AM
Re: How much $$$ does it take?
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 250
Loc: traveling side show
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budget break down:
content- $87,500 approx
processing- $1500
traffic- $5k/month
software- $8k
graphics- $10k
hosting- $1k/month
salary- $7k
flat costs- $107000
recurring cost- $12k/month 12 months
total- $251000 over 12 months
enjoy
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#49386 - 09/09/06 10:35 AM
Re: How much $$$ does it take?
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 698
Loc: CA
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budget break down:
content- $87,500 approx
processing- $1500
traffic- $5k/month
software- $8k
graphics- $10k
hosting- $1k/month
salary- $7k
flat costs- $107000
recurring cost- $12k/month 12 months
total- $251000 over 12 months
enjoy
You're Baked. If you're actually paying that much, you've been had.
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#49388 - 09/09/06 07:00 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 228
Loc: nowhere
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Dude... Wthe fuck are you shooting your scenes with, IMAX? NASA Space Probe? However, since you asked for someone to break it down for you, proper... here ya go... Dig it! (at least from a movie standpoint)
content- $87,500 approx (Bullshit, for one scene it's easy $1400.00 for individual man/woman $1000.00 if their married - alas, I'm NOT gonna pay someone to fuck his own wife out the door, and THAT includes a set.)
processing- $1500 (whatever you mean by that?)
traffic- $5k/month (Who you going through, dipshit?!)
software- $8k (Good editing kit - Sony Vegas Plat. HD Edition will nail you for about $150.-$200. + computer to run it $800. = Learn it yourself, work on your OWN talent and join the ranks.)
graphics- $10k (Do it yourself... Where you hiring your people from... Madison Ave.)
hosting- $1k/month (You've been burned, fool)
salary- $7k (For who? Yourself? Do you have a team of people housed away somewhere? If it's for you, ya better bring it down a few pegs, because until your work's actually on a shelf somewhere, waiting to be picked up by the first 2000 raincoaters... Ya aint worth shit!)
flat costs- $107000 (Shove it right back up your ass, Pee Wee.)
recurring cost- $12k/month 12 months (This business is like a living breathing animal. It moves and thrives with the climate. You'll NEVER be able to keep a "true" operating figure, because there is no promise that you'll move the product you've made for that $$$ figure, or nail the needed sign-ups.)
total- $251000 over 12 months (I tell you what, if you are seriously paying THAT price, contact me through my company website and I'll do the shit for you. I'll need about two weeks and you'll have your materials, FINISHED!)
enjoy
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#49389 - 09/10/06 09:00 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 250
Loc: traveling side show
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and where are you shooting your ugly ass content at? def not in la, please tell me where you can shoot a scene for $1400 and have it edited and enclude the set costs.. here it is for ya hosting- $1k/month, yeah, thats for a good host, check out national net, or cave creek graphics- site desing, members area, banners, affiliate area,promo tools hosted galleries -$10k members area software- $4k, or do you know how to program it yourself, check out http://mansionproductions.com/content need 25 video scenes to start, 12 to go live, then 1 update a week every week. need to shoot as much as possible. cost per shoot $3500 depending on what the concept of the site is, a gangbang site is more $$ than a girl/girl site, plus editing. unless you want some boring ass site where the dude bangs his ugly wife and you live somewhere else. in la a girl is $800-$900 and a solid guy is $400-$600, please check any agency in la. traffic- $5k/month (you need to get people to go to your site, so you have to buy it, sorry you dont know what the fuck this is) google adwords exit console trades email buy cross sales pre paid joins affiliate program- again see http://mansionproductions.com/software $4k will need hosted galleries -images/movies free content banners ads processing- cascade billing- ccbill = $750 visa fee, epoch = $750 visa fee sorry you didnt know it costs money to to set up with these 3rd prarty processors, do you even know what that is? budget break down: content- $87,500 approx procesion- $1500 traffic- $5k/month software- $8k graphics- $10k hosting- $1k/month salary- $7k (well this is how much i would charge someone to run their site/program, since i know what im doing, unlike yourself flat costs- $120,000 recurring cost- $12k/month 12 months (salary and traffic deals) total- $264000 over 12 months so you can spend the money to have a good looking site, or you can do the graphics, programming, yourself and hire your ugly friends to fuck and spend way less money and have a site that reflects that. 
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#49390 - 09/10/06 09:02 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 250
Loc: traveling side show
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oh, im so sorry baileyx, i see you are in ohio, where there arent a fraction of good looking chicks out there. ive been in la for about, lets see, over 8 years doing internet porn, i prolly know a bit more than you do. please, take my figures to www.gfy.com and see what they say.
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#49393 - 09/10/06 10:43 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
Posts: 2710
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members area software- $4k, or do you know how to program it yourself, check out http://mansionproductions.com/
Content is king...nobody gives a fuck what the members' area looks like. Blacks On Blondes is one of the most successful sites out there, but their members' area redefines the word 'basic'.
That's a neat piece of software, but I'd probably save the $4 grand and spend it on content instead. 
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#49395 - 09/10/06 12:15 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 228
Loc: nowhere
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You are a piece of work, my friend. Not ONLY did you NOT get the whole point of what I was trying to tell you... but you came across sounding like a defensive little kid who didn't get his way. (I thought this was the "ADULT" business? Who the fuck let Romper Room in here?)
Please go back and RE-READ what I was saying (s l o w l y) and think for a minute... "This cat isn't out to lynch me... he's just offering suggestions". Then I'm sure you'll wanna pull on my cock for a while, jack-slappy.
Out of being curious... WHERE is this supersite your building? What's it's name? I wanna keep tabs on it cause (I'm feeling lucky) I'll bet in about 5 years, I'll STILL be here... and you will have folded. (Keep in mind, there is a hidden meaning to that last statement but if I tell you, then you won't learn.)
Oh, before I dismiss you, I should clear up something...
your post to me read...
where are you shooting your ugly ass content at? (Have you seen it? If so, thanks for putting even more money in my pocket.)
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#49396 - 09/10/06 12:21 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 228
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yeah, plus the dvd's will be gravy if you can sell them.. i think we are close to the same page.. baileyx is delusional if he thinks you can build a site and compete in this biz for less than $200k.
Who said this was a competion for me...? I do what I do, because I LOVE it. I LOVE making these movies.
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#49398 - 09/10/06 03:39 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 250
Loc: traveling side show
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show use some of your hot stuff youve been shooting, please!
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#49399 - 09/10/06 04:46 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 228
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Buy it! I don't do "freebies", mouth piece.
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#49401 - 09/10/06 05:09 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 228
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Besides... I'm sure your local store has a copy or two laying around... But, you never did tell me where I can go to check your stuff out at? Remember, I initially said that my comments were from a MOVIE stand point. I suppose I was was trusting you to be the smart cookie and take the figure, and other comments I laid on the table, and apply them accordingly... But I guess that was asking too much for a top brass "business" cat like yourself (meow).
INSERT "SURFER VOICE" HERE: "Like whoa, man...?!!!!!"
What are you so uptight about? Not getting laid? Business not good enough for you? What??? If you ask me, you are coming across a bit on the "defensive" side.
Okay, maybe I was a bit harsh in my inital comment to the post. But you know, truth be told, what I saying... was designed to be taken more as "street" helpful, than anything else. It wasn't designed to be an attack of any kind toward you... People on here who know me, know I don't operate that way.
But, I'm tired of this, I have better shit to waste time on, and I've already flushed the toliet, bro.
So, on that note, in closing... what I was initially trying to say to you (or anyone) is... "Instead of spending ALL that bank hiring someone else to build your dream... take the time to build it yourself... The wine (success) tastes better that way -- and at the end of the day, when the whores have all gone home, and the sun is sinking low in the west. You'll know that you "owned" that day.
Dig it. Truth.
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#49402 - 09/10/06 09:49 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 04/06/06
Posts: 250
Loc: traveling side show
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Besides... I'm sure your local store has a copy or two laying around... But, you never did tell me where I can go to check your stuff out at? Remember, I initially said that my comments were from a MOVIE stand point. I suppose I was was trusting you to be the smart cookie and take the figure, and other comments I laid on the table, and apply them accordingly... But I guess that was asking too much for a top brass "business" cat like yourself (meow).
INSERT "SURFER VOICE" HERE: "Like whoa, man...?!!!!!"
What are you so uptight about? Not getting laid? Business not good enough for you? What??? If you ask me, you are coming across a bit on the "defensive" side.
Okay, maybe I was a bit harsh in my inital comment to the post. But you know, truth be told, what I saying... was designed to be taken more as "street" helpful, than anything else. It wasn't designed to be an attack of any kind toward you... People on here who know me, know I don't operate that way.
But, I'm tired of this, I have better shit to waste time on, and I've already flushed the toliet, bro.
So, on that note, in closing... what I was initially trying to say to you (or anyone) is... "Instead of spending ALL that bank hiring someone else to build your dream... take the time to build it yourself... The wine (success) tastes better that way -- and at the end of the day, when the whores have all gone home, and the sun is sinking low in the west. You'll know that you "owned" that day.
Dig it. Truth.
that was too long, i lost interest after the part where you claim ppl here know you here, esp after your huge post count.
have fun with your porn empire in ohio
xoxoxoox
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#49404 - 09/11/06 01:38 AM
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Whoremaster
Registered: 10/21/05
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How would these budget estimates be affected by a site which does pretty much exclusively stills content, like Gothic Sluts or Barely Evil? I know solo girl stills cost a lot less than b/g video, but I'm wondering what recommendations you guys would make for the number of sets needed? Also, please continue with your back-and-forth business banter rather than just insults...if one of you says you're paying too much, and the other says you're paying too little, then I can work out a median average somewhere inbetween. Basically, keep it informative and constructive...I'm listening!
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#49405 - 09/11/06 03:11 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
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It's weird... The guy was on here saying you needed all kinds of cash to build a start up, which, as I understood from his comment stating you needed something $7K for payroll, to mean that he was "outsourcing" everything.
So, in my own "bastardly honest" way... I was simply stating that instead of farming the stuff out to other people and putting cash in "their" pockets... it would be "wiser" to learn how to do it himself (even if he wasn't any good at it) and, in effect, keep (or at least "try" to keep) the money in his own pocket.
But the point was missed... and made all the more hysterical when he kept asking me for a link to buy or see some of my stuff. Now, coming from a guy who claims to know all about spending cash on building these massive websites, (claimed to have spent 8 years doing it) you would've kinda figured that he would've known that if he "clicks" my name on here, it would pull up my profile, which has a link to my company website. But I suppose I gave him too MUCH credit.
Anyway... I never came onto this thread with the intention of knocking someone's idea, dream, or what have you, in the dirt... As I mentioned, I just don't work like that, my wiring is different.
I'll be the first to admit, that I don't know jack or shit about building one of those $500K (or whatever the actual figure was) websites. But, the numbers sounded a bit steep to me when I first read it... So I jumped in.
Ado
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#49406 - 09/11/06 03:18 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
Registered: 03/16/06
Posts: 228
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have fun with your porn empire in ohio
LOL! Each and EVERYDAY, bro.... Each and every day!
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#49408 - 09/11/06 09:10 AM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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#49410 - 09/11/06 12:19 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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#49412 - 09/11/06 12:33 PM
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Max Hardcore Prison Bitch
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Thanks man... We try.
love the pixled images of the enlarged box covers.. still dont see any demo videos. also, you should sniff out what brower people are using to give them a better video plug in rather than only offer quicktime, esp since the majority of people online use IE/windows.
keep on workin at it.
LMFAO!!!! Now THAT's the talk of a REAL pro here, folks! Aren't you proud to be apart of Romper Room!? So pro he can't even dish us up a link to peep his shit out. (Like I knew... Completely spineless!) C'mon, bro.... show me YOUR goods. I WANNA see just where ALL that mad cash your obviously making (not to mention spending) is coming from? Oh please, oh please, educate me grand master... Be my very own Yoda and show me the true nature of the Force, chump!
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