Croc, that's a crock, I've already fought that fight on here.

Yes, Social Security and Medicare, Medicaid, etc. have been very successful.

We endured 8 years of that trickle down voodoo economics, where tax cuts are supposed to increase revenue. Doesn't seem to work.

I support public campaign financing, to get the big money out of campaigns. Want a broadcast license? Pony up some air time for democracy.

I've seen some instances of Government budgets being starved into privatization. Contractors running campgrounds in National Forests where fees have doubled, age discounts are no longer valid, services are cut, and many campgrounds are closed because the contractor couldn't turn a profit. The privatized reservation system is a nightmare.

It is attractive to sit on internet forums taking cheap shots at the Government and saying taxes are bad. How'd that small Government stuff work out on the Deep Water Horizon? How about in cities like Colorado Springs where the police are saying they don't have the funding to respond to much more than immediate threats to life - no response to a robbery in progress, or car accidents. No investigations.

How'd that limited Government intervention work with the banking sector?

Malaysia seems to be libertarian as far as manufacturing. Wanna get a job in a factory there? Do you think safety, environmental, and decent living wage laws would improve things? How about we stop imports from places that didn't have these requirements? Would that level the playing field for U.S. workers?

Ha! Coke thinks it takes an unobtainable utopia to manage to let everyone live a decent life in a capitalistic society. Is this the basis of all the hate, a fear that there isn't enough material wealth to go around?