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#489388 - 06/16/10 05:33 AM Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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#489389 - 06/16/10 06:50 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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It's good to see both them fuck wads actually pretending to be journalists for once.
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#489390 - 06/16/10 06:53 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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The wheels are coming off the cart. Republicans will win a lot of elections this fall. Mistah O gots 2 years left to shove the cap and trade rip off down our throats. Will the Chicago criminals behind the carbon exchange take his knees if this doesn't go through?
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#489391 - 06/16/10 12:17 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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Obama's not even running the country right now. He's the most powerful man in the world, and in the midst of a crisis he gets on television and goes, "I'm gonna create a bunch of commissions! And, I've got people going back to work, weatherproofing people's windows!".

Congress is running the country. His whole strategy in health care was to let Congress do it. Thought that that was why Clinton failed with it in '93. Apparently the Liberals in Congress gotta hold of the whole thing and the only political capital used to fight tooth and nail with was to get the public option. Then the Liberals were bitching that it had to be so watered down to get it passed. Then, even watered down, that was too Liberal pass.

The other main thing he's done is the stimulus bill. David Brooks has got columns about how that ceased to be a well design economic stimulus bill that Obama put together. Nancy Pelosi wrested control of it and it became Liberal pet spending projects that they've been wanting to do for years.

Obama doesn't know what he's doing. The Speaker of the House some say is as powerful as the president, because she has complete control over what votes come to the floor. Nancy got to be looking at Obama and thinking, "Okay, there's 6 more months. What do I want to do?"

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#489392 - 06/18/10 09:58 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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Does anyone remember in 2000 when all the liberal pundits were saying ad nauseum that W. had no "gravitas"? That was just another way of saying he was an empty suit. Now, after less than two years of Obama, they really know what an empty fucking suit looks like.
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#489393 - 06/18/10 01:36 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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C'mon...he's not an empty suit...he's a fucking puppet. The BP fiasco just drives home that he has zero fucking clue what he's supposed to do now that he's not campaigning for the next higher political position.

I've got schadenfreude like a motherfucker right now.

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#489394 - 06/18/10 02:28 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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the talking heads have hated every pres since LBJ.

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#489395 - 06/18/10 02:56 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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#489396 - 06/19/10 07:56 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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the talking heads have hated every pres since LBJ.




I'm not quite old enough to remember. Did they hate Clinton? I vaguely remember him being accused of being a media darling by what was the then much less popular, Fox News. I'm sure they hated Reagan early on, but as his popularity soared, did they still hate him?

Obama's best hope is a Republican Congress in 2011. Obama is bad enough. But, Obama with a Democratic Congress is like a drug addicted serial killer who you've given a gun.

It's possible that after that he'll moderate his ways. I'll give him a 2nd chance then. Just not be as open minded as I was the 1st time. I never liked it, but I didn't hate Obama until that whole health care mess. The guy entirely ran on not worrying about universal coverage and just bringing down the costs. Then the stupid bill he signed was just entitlements that didn't even achieve universal coverage, only "near-universal" as he called it, and it raised the costs.

It can not be said often enough that lowering the health care costs in this country, so they are on par with what other industrialized nations spend, is the main problem that needs to be solved in attacking the massive debt this country faces.


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#489397 - 06/19/10 09:49 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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It's possible that after that he'll moderate his ways. I'll give him a 2nd chance then.




For me, it is no longer a question of right, center, left, moderate or partisan. This guy is without substance and is simply overwhelmed by the office. He was never qualified to be the POTUS.
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#489398 - 06/21/10 06:03 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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I call it Magical Negro Syndrome. The press had built Obama up to be omniscient and all powerful. The left thought that with a chorus of Zippity Doo Dah he could close the well. With a drive of his Bagger Vance golf club all the oil would be removed from the beaches. That the laying on of his John Coffey hands he could heal the gulf fisherman's woes.

The reality that he is just another stuffed shirt politician, who has about as much executive \ managerial skills (him or anyone in his administration) as Barney Franks had pussy, and the fact that he is much less competent to handle a crisis than even Bush, has been a let down of enormous proportions. So of course they are angry, hurt, and turn to back stabbing him, because none want to be seen as the last clown backing him now.


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#489399 - 06/21/10 06:12 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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It's possible that after that he'll moderate his ways. I'll give him a 2nd chance then.




For me, it is no longer a question of right, center, left, moderate or partisan. This guy is without substance and is simply overwhelmed by the office. He was never qualified to be the POTUS.




^ you said it !
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#489400 - 06/21/10 07:23 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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i love how no one in this thread is talking about his meeting with BP where he forced them to create a 20 Billion dollar fund in an escrow account to make sure they don't weasel out of this like Exxon did in Valdez and Chevron did in Ecuador.

That was a powerful move and quite different from the dick sucking of energy companies that took place in the last administration.



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#489401 - 06/21/10 07:36 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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I gotta give him credit on that one !
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#489402 - 06/21/10 07:49 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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i love how no one in this thread is talking about his meeting with BP where he forced them to create a 20 Billion dollar fund in an escrow account to make sure they don't weasel out of this like Exxon did in Valdez and Chevron did in Ecuador.

That was a powerful move and quite different from the dick sucking of energy companies that took place in the last administration.








That's because it was BP's idea. It's a lot less costly than actual litigation and a good PR move. Obama, being the political opportunist he is, just took credit, BP, already on thin ice, wouldn't contradict him. Ask yourself this, did Obama give back the campaign money he received from BP yet? I bet even you the know the answer to that one.

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#489403 - 06/21/10 08:56 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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i love how no one in this thread is talking about his meeting with BP where he forced them to create a 20 Billion dollar fund




That was just Obama's double talk. BP has said the whole time they plan on paying for the damages to the gulf. Have you heard from any source other than the White House that Obama somehow made them do that?

Elab, as many broken promises as this guy's made, it surprises me that you're believing something just because it came out of his mouth.

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#489404 - 06/21/10 05:49 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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i have gotten used to broken promises from politicians of both sides. I admit Obama is a bit of a disappointment only because he is going too far to the middle...not because of the nonsense that the other side is going on about 24/7. But I will take him any day over ANYONE the Republicans have to offer.... I can only imagine how McCain would have handled this...

Palin asks people to Pray for the fucking well to close on her stupid ass twitter. hahahahaha

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#489405 - 06/22/10 05:51 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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I can't say how McCain would have handled it exactly. I can tell you how I think he would have. One, don't drill so far off shore that you can't put actual people down there. Hands on is way better than remote control. Two, wave the Jones Act to allow the foreign help in that the Dutch offered on Day 3. Four, wave the fucking bureaucratic clap trap about the environmental studies and help the Governors build the damn sand barriers. Five, bring experienced engineers and experts in to counsel, not academics and lawyers and do it in the first week. Six, don't take two vacations or play 52 rounds of golf. Be seen acting from the beginning, appearances are half the effort, if he needed some recreation he could go to the Nixon bowling alley, although I know Obama is an elitist snob and doesn't like to bowl.

Say what you want about McCains politics, but you better recognize that experience counts for something and Obama and his administration have none. There is a good reason Obama has so many Czars, it's because he has to outsource almost all executive decision making.

In fact, this is the way Obama strategy meetings probably go.

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#489406 - 06/22/10 12:47 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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I admit Obama is a bit of a disappointment only because he is going too far to the middle...




Elab, exactly how do you think Obama has gone too far to the middle? The two big things that have happened during his presidency so far are the stimulus bill and the health care bill. The stimulus bill passed with 3 Republican votes. The health care bill passed with 0 Republican votes. Is your assertion that he's worried too much about Republicans because he bothered to cut a deal and get 3 of them to vote for one of his two big bills?

I love you guys who make fun of whatta loud mouth Rush Limbaugh is. But then, you do the exact same thing, only from the other side of the aisle. Clinging on to Sarah Palin for dear life in an effort to vindicate your politics is about the best initial indicator you get to show that's what someone is doing.

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#489407 - 06/22/10 02:29 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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Obama has been overwhelmed cleaning up conservatives' messes. Our economy was about to collapse, he had to take further action. Federal agencies are packed full of right-winger incompetents who are inclined to let the foxes guard the henhouse. The oil companies ran their own industry unfettered by any government oversight after the secret Cheney meeting, that's where the big undersea gusher blame should go. Still trying to extricate ourselves from wars started by neo-cons. Examples I saw today, a federal judge in Louisiana wants to stop the offshore drilling moratorium, and the 4-star in charge in Afghanistan insulted the Commander-in-Chief and other civilian leadership. You know, everyone who got 3 stars was personally interviewed by Cheney. Gotta pass the ideological tests. And, I bet that Louisiana judge is a conservative appointment.

I'm also disappointed Obama went so far center, kissing Repub ass when they say no to every bit of progress. All the caving on health care was sickening. He needs to make good on stuff like closing Gitmo, getting rid of DADT, and there needs to be a big push for campaign finance reform. He needs to start dismissing incompetents and appointing folks who will get the job done. Getting a little tough with BP was nice, but he needs to go a lot further. Take the shit over, there is a lot that can be done towards better containment and cleanup.
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#489408 - 06/22/10 04:59 PM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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It's amazing how blindly some people will interpret things... charin, just find a bumper sticker that says "Liberal" on it and paste it over your eyes. You'll be far happier that way.

This is the best example in the post of Liberal nonsense they have to resort to in lieu of rational thought:

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I'm also disappointed Obama went so far center, kissing Repub ass when they say no to every bit of progress. All the caving on health care was sickening.




There was so few ideas in that bill Republicans could support that not a single one of them even voted for it. Are you saying you think Obama is so stupid that he made a bunch of compromises with Republicans despite the fact that none of them voted for it?

Each Republican in Congress gets a vote just like every Democrat does. Obama has showed complete willingness to forego Republican support if he can get the votes elsewhere. E.g., the only two big bills that have passed, health care and stimulus.

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He needs to make good on stuff like closing Gitmo,




Give it up. Obama's all but admitted he had no idea what he was talking about with those promises by abandoning them.

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#489409 - 06/23/10 07:44 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100623/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gulf_oil_spill
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By CURT ANDERSON and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN, Associated Press Writers – 43 mins ago
NEW ORLEANS – The Louisiana judge who struck down the Obama administration's six-month ban on deepwater oil drilling in the Gulf of Mexico has reported extensive investments in the oil and gas industry, according to financial disclosure reports. He's also a new member of a secret national security court.
U.S. District Judge Martin Feldman, a 1983 appointee of President Ronald Reagan, reported owning less than $15,000 in stock in 2008 in Transocean Ltd., the company that owned the sunken Deepwater Horizon drilling rig.

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Feldman's 2008 financial disclosure report — the most recent available — also showed investments in Ocean Energy, a Houston-based company, as well as Quicksilver Resources, Prospect Energy, Peabody Energy, Halliburton, Pengrowth Energy Trust, Atlas Energy Resources, Parker Drilling and others.

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A graduate of Tulane University in New Orleans with bachelor's and law degrees, Feldman frequently jokes with lawyers before his court about his friendship with Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia, known for his strict interpretation of the Constitution as written more than 200 years ago.

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100623/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama_mcchrystal

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By JENNIFER LOVEN and ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writers – 7 mins ago
WASHINGTON – Afghanistan war commander Gen. Stanley McChrystal has completed a closed-door meeting with President Barack Obama and has left the White House. There was no immediate word on whether Obama would fire him for his inflammatory comments in a magazine interview.
Significantly, McChrystal departed the White House before Obama convened a regularly scheduled war planning meeting there. Officials had indicated earlier that McChrystal was summoned back to Washington from Afghanistan to explain at that session disparaging remarks he made about civilian leaders in an interview with Rolling Stone.
THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.

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#489410 - 06/23/10 08:50 AM Re: Even the liberal pundits hate Obama now...
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Inmates Get Homebuyer Tax Credits: Gov't Report
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Nearly 1,300 prison inmates wrongly received more than $9 million in tax credits for homebuyers despite being locked up when they claimed they bought a home, a government investigator reported Wednesday.
The investigator said 241 of the inmates were serving life sentences.

In all, more than 14,100 taxpayers wrongly received at least $26.7 million in tax credits that were meant to boost the nation's slumping housing markets, said the report by J. Russell George, the Treasury Department's inspector general for tax administration.




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I wonder if the health care program will be run this efficiently.

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