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#474936 - 02/08/10 05:33 PM Advice for Directors/Producers
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I'd like to hear what you guys think makes the majority of porn scenes suck. Porn isnt going away, and its only getting more retarded with these spoofs. Here are a few things I think are ruining scenes.

1. Stunt Cocks- The reason most scenes suck nowadays is because of the dudes. Back in the 80s and 90s when youd watch a woman fuck on film, youd get more of a sense of her sexual skill/prowess. Ashlyn Gere for example, Id been watching porn for a while in my teen years, and when I first saw her scenes I was like "holy shit this dame can really suck a cock." Porn dudes used to just kick back and let the woman be the focus of the scene, but now its the same shit everytime. Dudes ravage the hell out of the chicks in every fucking scene, choking and slapping to the point that none of these chicks are able to show their true sexual style. I think this is part of the reason everyone gets bored so fast and explains the need for new girls. There is no room for chicks to express themselves sexually when they're being ravaged beyond the call of duty. So now these new girls dont last because there is no need for any kind of power or charisma when youre just being abused by the same fucking dudes over and over again. Manuel Ferarra would be great if he would just shut the fuck up, and not fuck like he's trying to win the olympics. There's one theory folks, letting porn dudes make all the calls on set is making all these scenes seem the same even though there are more girls than ever.

2. ATM- You know no one in real life would ever ask a broad to do this, and it wasnt even prevalent in porn until the late 90s. Let me tell ya, if youre lucky enough to get a chick to give up the ass, you dont ask her to suck your cock after its been in there. That's why it is completely unconvincing on camera and devoid of eroticism. I understand why the ATM exists, some crackhead submissive ugly whores could only get in porn by doing acts that are completely filthy and unorthodox unless youre Caligula. What you can take from this is ATM is monotonous, uesless, unsanitary, and disrespectful. Anal sex is cool, asslicking is cool, but ATM is just as bad as Max Hardcore antics.

Keep this going folks, I dont mind if you dispute my observations, but i also ask that you make a contribution as well as an argument.
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#474937 - 02/08/10 05:40 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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I'd like to hear what you guys think makes the majority of porn scenes suck.




I heard they pay the actors to suck, usually about $250 a pop.
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#474938 - 02/08/10 05:49 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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1. Loud/noisy/verbose stunt cocks.
2. Overly fake, loud alleged enjoyment by the girl.
3. Far too many tats/bolt-ons.
4. HiDef close-ups of girls who just look awful in that resolution.
5. Fake cocks & cum.

That's a good start ...
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#474939 - 02/08/10 05:49 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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That made me smile, so I'll consider it constructive. I mean really can you tell the difference between scenes anymore? It's not from a flooded market, it's from repetitive stunt cocks taking control of every scene.
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#474940 - 02/08/10 06:09 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Many of the women look miserable and wanting to be elsewhere. Much of the sex is abuse and criminal when you consider many of the women do what they do with double vag and triple anal because they desperately need the money for whatever it may be. There's no real sex anymore and it's either circus acts or so fake.

I hate it when the women look at the camera. That's not natural. Real sex doesn't involve women staring at a fucking camera. Let the camera roll and let the performers do what they want without having to pose for the camera while having sex.

Stop the talking while having sex. A bit is okay but if I want to hear talking, I'll turn on the news. Just have sex!


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#474941 - 02/08/10 06:18 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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I hate it when the women look at the camera. That's not natural. Real sex doesn't involve women staring at a fucking camera. Let the camera roll and let the performers do what they want without having to pose for the camera while having sex.

Stop the talking while having sex. A bit is okay but if I want to hear talking, I'll turn on the news. Just have sex!




Agreed on that.
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#474942 - 02/08/10 06:30 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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I am on this kick because I have a free membership to videobox.com and I read the reviews members make of the scenes. Like almost all the members there hate Lee Stone. I was surprised cuz Ive met the guy, and he's a nice fella. However the fans on there hate his grunting and Im guessing the steroided physique makes him even more of a nuisance. Porn used to have regular dudes gettin laid, now its like all these insecure wanna be pretty boys.
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#474943 - 02/08/10 06:36 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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@Fat Thomas
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1. Loud/noisy/verbose stunt cocks.
2. Overly fake, loud alleged enjoyment by the girl.
3. Far too many tats/bolt-ons.
4. HiDef close-ups of girls who just look awful in that resolution.
5. Fake cocks & cum.

That's a good start ...





I'd say that's not bad so far.
1. James Deen usually smacks asses red while talking shit in whores' ears, Erik Everhard sometimes fakes it like some bitches and Nick Manning blathered on about dropping fucking loads too often. Retirement will wait for them next to Randy West for sure.
2. Jessica Bangkok is such a prime example it ain't even funny, Kagney Linn Karter's really annoying and Stoya should try to fake it better for once. What a wasteland.
3. Ink can look good in some cases, but wherever most porn whores get their color fix, it's obviously not always so professional. Better leave that shit out if it's not done right. The saline therapy, it's all known about it here. Too much too bad jobs without enough criticism around them. Rarely it can look good and proportionate. And the unmodified tits in all their glory aren't seen that much either. Lela Star is another story though.
4. HD is fine, but yeah, it can be ugly here and there or everywhere. Cameron Diaz looks spooky in HD, too. Generally, it's more honest than pixellated SD video.
5. Probably the lesbo equipment. I wouldn't know about that stuff right now.

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#474944 - 02/08/10 06:41 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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6. bad blocking. Nothing ruins a scene more than staring at man ass or being subjected to poorly framed closeups.
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#474945 - 02/08/10 06:47 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
Darrah Ford's ghost Offline
Sex Slave Trader

Registered: 06/06/09
Posts: 1321
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I am on this kick because I have a free membership to videobox.com and I read the reviews members make of the scenes. Like almost all the members there hate Lee Stone. I was surprised cuz Ive met the guy, and he's a nice fella. However the fans on there hate his grunting and Im guessing the steroided physique makes him even more of a nuisance. Porn used to have regular dudes gettin laid, now its like all these insecure wanna be pretty boys.




Straight porn has turned gay. It used to be average or below average looking guys. Now many are good looking. I thought the point of straight porn was for the male consumer to fantasize it's him. The porn stars were well endowed while usually the male consumer was better looking. Now you have straight male porn stars being well endowed AND somewhat good looking. Straight porn is going gay! No wonder men download.



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#474946 - 02/08/10 06:52 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
gia jordan Offline
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Registered: 09/07/05
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I don't mind the stunt cock being good looking. I just don't want him being distracting.
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#474947 - 02/08/10 06:58 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
Darrah Ford's ghost Offline
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Registered: 06/06/09
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The talking is unbearable and the staring at the camera. The few occasions I want to watch porn, I go to the tube sites and look for the amateur porn. There you'll find actual sex! No one posing except for the occasional guy looking at the camera with that stupid grin "hey I'm getting laid" look.

Look at this Ginger Lynn/Paul Thomas oldie. Now that's hot:

xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=dvdtalk&Number=468880&Forum=All_Forums&Words=4123&Match=Username&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=397914&Search=true#Post468880

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#474948 - 02/08/10 06:59 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Registered: 03/15/08
Posts: 190
Loc: California
Ive tried to whack to Stoya scenes and its as boring as Tera Patrick scenes. Try as I may, I end up watching something else. I think a director needs to tell Bangkok to take a drink, and fuck like she does at home, with just a bit more flair. I know alot of these Asian chicks take it seriously, and most of them arent junkie degenerates.

Ive heard porn chicks complain about the shape of Everhards dick, they say its like a cone and not really enjoyable haha. James Deen I think he should take break and respect his position. Too much undeserved pussy turns men into fags, aint that right Nick Manning?

The bad camera angles are actually a part of all these directors just letting the male talent dominate the scene. Ive shot stills on many porn sets, and many of these directors just let the male talent run everything. Theyre afraid of upsetting their sensitive boners.

7. Porn Directors who cant get laid- What can an ugly bastard who has to pay for pussy know about expressing eroticism? Nothing, if you cant seduce a woman without money then youre just a freak behind the camera with sick envy of everyone else. You may know how to use a camera, but if you cant get laid, you cant produce true erotica.
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#474949 - 02/08/10 07:03 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 4580
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6. bad blocking. Nothing ruins a scene more than staring at man ass or being subjected to poorly framed closeups.






Where Derek Hay's pimp hand may be strong, Ben English's ability to completely block a shot is as impressive. Sweating like a pig, like more than usually, and looking coked up half of the time is pure unwanted sideshow entertainment.

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#474950 - 02/08/10 07:05 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
gia jordan Offline
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The talking is unbearable and the staring at the camera. The few occasions I want to watch porn, I go to the tube sites and look for the amateur porn. There you'll find actual sex! No one posing except for the occasional guy looking at the camera with that stupid grin "hey I'm getting laid" look.





I don't like most amateur porn. The people look gross, and they're so amateur you can barely see the penetration due to being obscured by their bodies.
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#474951 - 02/08/10 07:14 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Registered: 03/15/08
Posts: 190
Loc: California
Derrek Hay has absolutely no respect for the female body. Caverject has turned his dick into an actual weapon. Remember way back when I was funny and I uncovered Ben English's secret identity as Lisa Lipps? http://www.xxxporntalk.com/ubbthreads/uploads/337862-1.jpg Those were the days.
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#474952 - 02/09/10 02:40 AM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Who the fuck wants to see an expression of eroticism(whatever that means)? The single purpose of porn is that whores are getting degraded for our viewing pleasure. That's why scenes with real life partners have no stroke value whatsoever unless the whore is uncomfortable about other people watching. A2M is degrading for all but completely dead inside whores, therefore A2M is awesome.
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#474953 - 02/09/10 02:42 AM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Registered: 05/06/04
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End the Jerk-to-pop. Fuck to completion with a body shot or creampie or a swallow/facial if possible. Outlaw the jerk-to pop.

End reality porn: No one really believes it anyway, loose the pretense or mock it "The Office" style.

Stop chasing each other with trends. Parodies are fine once or twice a year, not 6 a month. Find something the other companies are not shooting, not whatever they are shooting.

Loose the gay dudes doing straight porn. They have no passion in the scenes and look so gay that it makes it hard for a straight viewer to wank to the product. It's distracting.

Bring back kissing, pussy licking, mish, and orgies. 70s porn had some good content that you've all forgotten about.

Stop the plantation porn. Not all black men are mandingo savages. If that's the theme of the title, then fine...but otherwise let IR play out without the focus being racial.

Shoot more fetish content. There's a reason Kink.com is kicking everyone's ass online.

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#474954 - 02/09/10 02:52 AM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Not all black men are mandingo savages




Sure there are also those who are less than 3 years old.

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Shoot more fetish content. There's a reason Kink.com is kicking everyone's ass online.




Only if kicking everyone's ass=going bankrupt.
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#474956 - 02/09/10 12:05 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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guess i am fucked up in the head, because i get off on porn where the chicks get gangbanged and look like they don't want to be there
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#474957 - 02/09/10 01:25 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Porn seems to fake now. It use to look real.

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#474958 - 02/09/10 01:33 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Porn seems to fake now. It use to look real.




I blame Donny Long.
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#474959 - 02/11/10 05:50 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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one of the biggest porno star ever was peter north. he's gay.but the guy now who look gay is u

Dic Pusini, the next king of porn
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#474960 - 02/11/10 05:51 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Dic Pusini, the next king of porn




Salut T0NY !






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#474961 - 02/11/10 06:01 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Salut Tony!

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#474962 - 02/11/10 06:04 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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#474963 - 02/11/10 07:19 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
pinupmutant Offline
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Registered: 06/13/06
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What doesn't suck about the majority of porn scenes these days? It's the same tired old shit over and over again. Some of my pet peeves:

(1) Constantly switching positions. Stay still, dammit!
(2) Stupid contorted positions, like the pile driver. Am I watching a Bikram yoga class, or fucking?
(3) Sasha Grey and yammering whores of her ilk. Put a ball gag on them, please!
(4) Visible staph infections, herpes, or other fucksores.
(5) Booty popping, especially when done by white girls.
(6) All the cheap-ass lingerie and stripper shoes.
(7) Gaping. Oh look, I have a dilated anus. Aren't I talented?

That's just a partial list. But hey, this is what the market wants, right?




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#474964 - 02/11/10 08:05 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Posts: 5750
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What doesn't suck about the majority of porn scenes these days? It's the same tired old shit over and over again. Some of my pet peeves:

(1) Constantly switching positions. Stay still, dammit!
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(7) Gaping. Oh look, I have a dilated anus. Aren't I talented?

That's just a partial list. But hey, this is what the market wants, right?





+1 The fact that a female, an attractive intelligent female, made this post underscores its accuracy (and makes it kinda hott.)

Here's what I think would make a totally strokeable scene: Having a chick watching some straight-but-hott-and-filthy porn scene, masturbating and then acting out exactly what she just witnessed with some random meat puppet. Chicks watching porn is my new fetish...it is a subtle-yet intense fantasy that stimulates the brain in a way not previously shot out or hackneyed.
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#474965 - 02/13/10 04:34 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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#474966 - 02/13/10 04:40 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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where did you steal your house and green card, Tony?



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#474967 - 02/14/10 01:49 AM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
Claude Goddard Offline
Whoremaster

Registered: 06/16/07
Posts: 2512
Loc: Slumberland
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Porn seems to fake now. It use to look real.




When was this fabled time when porn looked real?

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#474968 - 02/14/10 06:55 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
pinupmutant Offline
Bukkake Boy

Registered: 06/13/06
Posts: 611
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+1 The fact that a female, an attractive intelligent female, made this post underscores its accuracy (and makes it kinda hott.)

Here's what I think would make a totally strokeable scene: Having a chick watching some straight-but-hott-and-filthy porn scene, masturbating and then acting out exactly what she just witnessed with some random meat puppet. Chicks watching porn is my new fetish...it is a subtle-yet intense fantasy that stimulates the brain in a way not previously shot out or hackneyed.




Burg, I love flattery but many chicks of all stripes are avid porn watchers. Also, the real thing is much better. I think of porn as a stopgap measure, like fast food. Micky D's hits the spot but can never compare to Gary Danko.

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#474969 - 02/14/10 08:47 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Registered: 01/26/06
Posts: 1058
Loc: Keen for Peen
stop with all the tattoos already. it's even cluttering up gay porn now. grrrr

and hey brazzers. stop with the overly long intros. i couldve summed up 'dude fucks his gf's mom' in 1 minute if i were the camera man. i saw a brazzers intro yesterday that was 7 minutes long. 7 minutes!
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#474970 - 02/14/10 09:13 PM Re: Advice for Directors/Producers
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Registered: 02/12/08
Posts: 4580
It sets the mood. And it makes the fantasy of "reality porn" more real. Nah, fuck it. It's all redundant bullshit.

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