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#47383 - 08/19/04 07:12 AM LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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To make synthetic acid, you need a basic understanding of chemistry and access to a lab. Since I don't quite understand all the chemical hocus- pocus, I'm going to cop out and quote you the patent for it. If you don't understand chemistry, just skip this recipe and go on to the next one for acid, it's much simpler.

Preparation for Lysergic Acid Amides:

United States Patent Office #2,736,728
Patented February 28, 1956
Richard P. Pioch, Indianapolis, Indiana, assignor, to Eli Lilly and Co., Indianapolis, Indiana, a corporation of Indiana.
No drawing. Application December 6, 1954, Serial No. 473,443. 10 Claims.
(Cl. 260-285.5)

This invention relates to the preparation of lysergic acid amides and to a novel intermediate compound useful in the preparation of said amides. Although only a few natural and synthetic amides of lysergic acid are known, they possess a number of different and useful pharmacologic properties. Especially useful is ergonovine, the N-(1(+)-1-hydroxyisopropyl) amide of d-lysergic acid, which is employed commercially as an oxytocic agent.

Attempts to prepare lysergic acid amides amides by the usual methods of preparing amides, such as reacting an amine with lysergic acid chloride or with ester of lysergic acid, have been unsuccessful. United States Patents No. 2,090,429 and No. 2,090,430, describe processes of preparing lysergic acid amides and, although these processes are effective to accomplish the desired conversion of lysergic acid to one of its amides, they are not without certain disadvantages.

By my invention I have provided a simple and convenient method of preparing lysergic acid amides, which comprises reacting lysergic acid with trifluoroacetic anhydride to produce a mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids, and when reacting the mixed anhydride with a nitrogenous base having at least one hydrogen linked to nitrogen. The resulting amide of lysergic acid is isolated from the reaction mixture by conventional means.

The reaction of the lysergic and the trifluoroacetic anhydride is a low temperature reaction, that is, it must be carried out at a temperature below about 0 degrees C. The presently preferred temperature range is about -15 C. to about -20 C. This range is sufficiently high to permit the reaction to proceed at a desirably fast rate, but yet provides an adequate safeguard against a too rapid temperature and consequent excessive decomposition of the mixed anhydride.

The reaction is carried out in a suitable dispersing agent, that is, one which is inert with respect to the reactants. The lysergic acid is relatively insoluble in dispersants suitable for carrying out the reaction, so it is suspended in the dispersant.

Two gallons of trifluoroacetic anhydride are required per mol. of lysergic acid for the rapid and complete conversion of the lysergic acid into the mixed anhydride. It appears that one molecule of the anhydride associates with or favors an ionic adduct with one molecule of the lysergic which contains a basic nitrogen atom and that it is the adduct which reacts with a second molecule of trifluoroacetic anhydride to form the mixed anhydride along with one molecule of trifluoroacetic acid. The conversion of the lysergic acid to the mixed anhydride occurs within a relatively short time, but to insure a complete conversion the reaction is allowed to proceed for about one to three hours.

The mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids is relatively unstable, especially at room temperature and above, and must be stored at a low temperature. This temperature instability of the mixed anhydride makes it desirable that it be converted into a lysergic acid amide without unnecessary delay. The mixed anhydride itself, since it contains a lysergic acid group, also can exist in the reaction mixture in large part as an ionic adduct with trifluoroacetic anhydride or trifluoroacetic acid. It is important for maximum yield of product that the lysergic acid employed in the reaction be dry. It is most convenient to dry the acid by heating it at about 105-110 degrees C. in a vacuum of about 1 mm. of mercury or less for a few hours, although any other customary means of drying can be used.

The conversion of the mixed anhydride into an amide by reacting the anhydride with the nitrogenous base, such as an amino compound, can be carried out at room temperature or below. Most conveniently the reaction is carried out by adding the cold solution of the mixed anhydride to the amino compound or a solution thereof which is at about room temperature. Because of the acidic components present in the reaction mixture of the mixed anhydride, about five mols or equivalents of the amino compound are required per mole or equivalent of mixed anhydride for maximal conversion of the mixed anhydride to the amide. Preferably a slight excess over the five mols is employed to insure complete utilization of the mixed anhydride. If desired, a basic substance capable of neutralizing the acid components present in the reaction mixture, but incapable of interfering with the reaction, can be utilized. A strongly basic tertiary amine is an example of such a substance. In such case, about one equivalent of amino compound to be converted to a lysergic acid amide, as well as any unconverted lysergic acid, can be removed from the reaction mixture and can be re-employed in other conversions.

A preferred method for carrying out the process of this invention is as follows:

Dry lysergic acid is suspended in a suitable vehicle as acetonitrile, and the suspension is cooled to about -15 C. or -20 C. To the suspension is then added slowly a solution of about two equivalents of trifluoroacetic anhydride dissolved in acetonitrile and previously cooled to about -20 degrees C. The mixture is maintained in a low temperature for about one to three hours to insure the completion of the formation of the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids.

The solution of the mixed anhydride is then added to about five equivalents of the amino compound which is to be reacted with the mixed anhydride. The amino compound need not be previously dissolved in a solvent, although it is usually convenient to use a solvent. The reaction is carried out with the amino compound or solution of amino compound at about room temperature or below. The reaction mixture is allowed to stand at room temperature for one or two hours, preferably in the dark, and the solvent is then removed by evaporation in vacuo at a temperature which desirably is not greatly in excess of room temperature. The viscous residue, consisting of the amide together with excess amine and amine salts, is taken up in a mixture of chloroform and water. The water is separated and the chloroform solution which contains the amide is washed several times with water to remove excesss amine and the various amine salts formed in the reaction, including that of any unconverted lysergic acid. The chloroform solution is then dried and evaporated, leaving a residue of lysergic acid amide. The amide so obtained can be purified by any conventional procedure.

Dispersants suitable for the purpose of this invention are those which are liquids at the low temperatures employed for the reaction and are of such an inert nature that they will not react preferentially to the lysergic acid with trifluoroacetic anhydride. Among suitable dispersants are acetonitrile, dimethylformamide, propionitrile, and the like. Additional suitable agents will readily be apparent from the foregoing enumeration. Of those listed above, acetonitrile is preferred since it is non-reactive and mobile at the temperature used, and is relatively volatile and hence readily separable from the reaction mixture by evaporation in vacuo.

A wide variety of nitrogenous bases such as amino compounds can be reacted with the mixed anhydride to form a lysergic acid amide. As previously stated, the amino compound must contain a hydrogen atom attached to nitrogen to permit amide formation. Illustrative amino compounds which can be reacted are ammonia, hydrazine, primary amines such as glycine, ethanolamine, diglycylglycine, norephedrine, aminopropanol, butanolamine, diethylamine, ephedrine, and the like.

When an alkanolamine such as ethanolamine or aminopropanol is reacted with the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids, the reaction product contains not only the desired hydroxy amide but also, to a minor extent, some amino ester. These two isometric substances arise because of the bi-functional nature of the reacting alkanolamine. Ordinarily the amino ester amounts to no more than 25-30 percent of the total amount of reaction product, but in cases where the amino group is esterically hindered, the proportion of amino ester will be increased. The amino ester can readily be converted to the desired hydroxy amide, and the over-all yield of the latter increased by treating the amino ester, or the mixture of amide and ester with alcoholic alkali to cause the rearrangement of the amino ester to the desired hydroxy amide. Most conveniently the conversion is carried out by dissolving the amino ester or mixture containing the amino ester in a minimum amount of alcohol and adding to the mixture a twofold amound of 4 N alcoholic potassium hydroxide solution. The mixture is allowed to stand at room temperature for several hours, the alkali is neutralized with acid, and the lysergic acid amide is then isolated and purified.

It should be understood that, as used herein, the term "lysergic acid" is used generically as inclusive of any or all of the four possible stereoisomers having the basic lysergic acid structure. Isomers of the lysergic acid series can be separated or interconverted by means known to the art.

This invention is further illustrated in the following specific examples.

[Example One]

Preparation of the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids:

5.36 g. of d-lysergic acid are suspended in 125 ml. of acetonitrile and the suspension is cooled to about -20 degrees C. To this suspension is added a cold (-20 degrees C.) solution of 8.82 g. of trifluoroacetic anhydride in 75 ml. of acetonitrile. The mixture is allowed to stand at -20 degrees C. for about 1 1/2 hours during which time the suspended material dissolves, and the d-lysergic acid is converted to the mixed anhydride of lysergic and trifluoroacetic acids. The mixed anhydride can be separated in the form of an oil by evaporating the solvent in vacuo at a temperature below about 0 degrees centigrade.

[Example Two]

Preparation of d-lysergic and N,N-diethyl amide:

A solution of the mixed anhydride of lysergic acid and trifluoroacetic acid in 200 ml. of acetonitrile is obtained by reacting 5.36 g. d-lysergic acid and 8.82 g. trifluoroacetic anhydride in accordance with the procedure of example one. The acetonitrile solution containing mixed anhydride is added to 150 ml. of acetonitrile containing 7.6 g. of diethylamine. The mixture is held in the dark at room temperature for about two hours. The acetonitrile is evaporated in vacuo leaving a residue which comprises the "normal" and "iso" forms of d-lysergic acid N,N-diethyl amide together with some lysergic acid, the diethylamine salt of trifluoroacetic acid and like by-products. The residue is dissolved in a mixture of 150 ml. of chloroform and 20 ml. of ice water. The chloroform layer is separated, and the aqueous layer is extracted with four 50 ml. portions of chloroform. The chloroform extracts are combined and are washed four times with about 50 ml. portions of cold water in order to remove residual amounts of amine salts. The chloroform layer is then dried over anhydrous sodium sulfate, and the chloroform is evaporated in vacuo. A solid residue of 3.45 gm. comprising the "normal" and "iso" forms of d-lysergic acid N,N-diethylamide is obtained. This material is dissolved in 160 ml. of a 3-to-1 mixture of benzene and chloroform, and is chromatographed over 240 g. of basic alumia. As the chromatogram is developed with the same solvent, two blue fluroescing zones appear on the alumina column. The more rapidly moving zone is d-lysergic acid N,N-diethylamide which is eluted with about 3000 ml. of the same solvent as above, the course of the elution being followed by watching the downward movement of the more rapidly moving blue fluorescing zone. The eluate is treated with tartaric acid to form the acid tartrate of d-lysergic acid N,N-diethyl amide which is isolated. The acid tartrate of d-lysergic acid N,N-diethyl amide melts with decomposition at about 190-196 degrees centigrade.

The di-iso-lysergic acid N,N-diethyl amide which remains absorbed on the alumia column as the second fluroescent zone is removed from the column by elution with chloroform. The "iso" form of the amide is recovered by evaporating the chloroform eluate to dryness in vacuo.

[Example Three]

Preparation of d-lysergic acid N-diethylaminoethyl amide:

A solution of the mixed anhydride of lysergic acid and trifluoroacetic acid is prepared from 2.68 g. of d-lysergic acid and 4.4 g. of trifluoroacetic acid anhydride in 100 ml. of acetonitrile by the method of Example One. This solution is added to 6:03 g. of diethylaminoethylamine.

The reaction mixture is kept in the dark at room temperature for 1 1/2 hours. The acetonitrile is evaporated, and the residue treated with chloroform and water as described in Example Two. The residue treated comprising d-iso- lysergic acid N-diethylaminoethyl amide is dissolved in several ml. of ethyl acetate, and the solution is cooled to about 0 degrees centigrade, whereupon di-iso-lysergic acid N-diethylaminoethyl amide separates in crystalline form.

The crystalline material is filtered off, and the filtrate reduced in volume to obtain an additional amount of crystalline amide. Recrystallization from ethyl acetate of the combined fractions of crystalline material yields d-iso-lysergic acid N-diethylaminoethyl amide melting at about 157-158 degrees centigrade. The optical rotation is as follows:

26 [x] d = + 372 degrees (c. = 1.3 in pyridine)

There has been in the last few years a great deal of discussion about the correct treatment for victims of bad LSD trips. When an individual does go into a panic on acid, it is an extremely delicate situation. Although it has been said that tranquilizers, such as thorazine, will help to calm the person down, be very careful, as certain drugs react violently with tranquilizers (STP). My advice in a situation of that sort is just to attempt to create an atmosphere of reassurance and sympathy. In no circumstances, except real uncontrollable panic, should a person on acid be taken to a city hospital. If you want a really freaky experience, spend a couple of hours at any city hospital and watch the people die in the halls!

Talk to the person on acid and remind him that he is under the influence of acid. Try to calm him down. Even a change of environment can effectively reverse a bad trip.


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#47384 - 08/19/04 10:30 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Damn it, reading that reminded me of Chemistry class in college. Of course all we got to make there was mothballs.
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#47385 - 08/19/04 11:31 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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You're hired Cleet! I wonder how much the lab equipment you would need would cost. More importantly, I wonder if same equipment isn't on some kind of "watch" list. Like, would someone living on 123 Elm Street get a visit from the Feds if he tried to buy it?
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#47386 - 08/19/04 01:15 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Oh hell no Zen, I hated Chem- it broke me and spit me out. Plus I am not into any drugs at all except alcohol, I whack off and drink they are all the vices I need
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#47387 - 08/19/04 01:18 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I whack off and drink they are all the vices I need




How true those words ring.

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#47388 - 08/19/04 02:45 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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This guy was apparently producing the majority of acid on the American market in a missile silo up until he was busted a couple of years ago.
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#47389 - 08/19/04 03:02 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Imagine if he launched an LSD-filled SCUD out of that silo?
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#47390 - 08/19/04 04:29 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I've always wanted to drive around with a super-soaker spraying random people. wait 1 hour and you've got comedy! preferably at some place like ernst and young or some place that employs serious dorky people most likely to just totally lose thier shit.

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#47391 - 08/19/04 06:02 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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This guy was apparently producing the majority of acid on the American market in a missile silo up until he was busted a couple of years ago.



They say because of this bust that LSD is virtually unobtainable and has more or less passed off the face of the earth. Back in the 80s I used to drop 2 - 4 times a week. Good times.
From the article:
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So what explains the LSD drought? The best explanation is a bust, a really big bust. The DEA claims it reduced the LSD supply by "95 percent" with two arrests in rural Kansas in November 2000. Clyde Apperson and William Leonard Pickard were charged with and eventually convicted of possession and conspiracy to distribute LSD. According to court testimony, the DEA seized the largest operable LSD laboratory in agency history, as well as 91 pounds of LSD and precursor compounds for the potential manufacture of nearly 27 pounds more. If you define a dose of LSD as 100 micrograms, Apperson and Pickard had around 400 million hits in stock. At the more common dosage level of 20 micrograms, the two were sitting on 2 billion hits.


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#47392 - 08/19/04 06:12 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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They say because of this bust that LSD is virtually unobtainable and has more or less passed off the face of the earth. Back in the 80s I used to drop 2 - 4 times a week. Good times.


Jesus Zenman, I've tried every drug in the book when I was younger, and the only thing I would never do again is acid. Scared the shit out of me. I bet your flashbacks are crazy. Do you see Timothy Leary in your oatmeal in the mornings?

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#47393 - 08/19/04 06:13 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Yeah Special Ed I was just gonna ask Zen if there were any side effects?
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#47394 - 08/19/04 06:15 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I used LSD I reckon about 125-150 times over two or three year period and have never had a problem with flashbacks. Flashbacks, incidentally, don't exist. I suspect the idea was created to strike fear into the minds of naive and impressionable youth of the 60s. Fortunately it didn't work.
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#47395 - 08/19/04 06:18 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Well what does it do for you? I mean what are the effects?
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#47396 - 08/19/04 06:25 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I also did it 2-4 times a week for a couple of years in the mid 90's. I was a real weirdo. I used to preach all of this consciousness expanding stuff. I almost ran off to India once. Glad I didn't.

I never had real flashbacks. However, for years after I still hallucinated, but it was a constant thing. Nothing major, just the typical one where the walls and everything look like curtains.

I went a bit psychotic towards the end, but that wasn't the LSD. It was all the others . . . .
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#47397 - 08/19/04 06:36 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Well what does it do for you? I mean what are the effects?




There's no way to really explain it. It sort of cleanses you mind of the normal cognitive "filters" through which you shape the world you experience. So you get this rush of pure unmediated sensory experiences. You hear things you've never heard, see significance in things you would never notice before, generally pick up on thousands and thousands of minute details that form a total and all enveloping mosaic of reality. Don't mean to sound New Agey here, but that's what it's like.

At smaller doses you start to see hallucinations, but they're more like "ambiguated perceptions" for lack of a better word. You look at the telephone cord dangling off the edge of a table, for example, and it looks like dangling vibrating jungle vine. You know it's not, but it looks like it. At higher doses, however, you can't tell the difference so you really have to be careful. One time I took 8 hits and I had this stucco wall pattern on the wall of my living room. I just stared at the wall for about two hours as Pizarro's conquest of the Incas played itself out. I shit you not, that's exactly what happened. Meanwhile I didn't even realize I knew that much about it. But as I was watching, I began to spontaneously "remember" every single thing I had read about the Incas. It was like the the normal access to the depths of my mind, which had been a pinprick, were now suddenly opened up to the size of the Holland tunnel and there was nothing stopping it.
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#47398 - 08/19/04 06:39 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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yeah that is what I was afraid of, I don't like to put anything in my body except food and booze, I mean I had freaky results from taking Nyquil once. Straight edge baby ( well sorta, no I guess not)
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#47399 - 08/19/04 10:46 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I used LSD I reckon about 125-150 times over two or three year period and have never had a problem with flashbacks. Flashbacks, incidentally, don't exist. I suspect the idea was created to strike fear into the minds of naive and impressionable youth of the 60s. Fortunately it didn't work.





I can back this up. I spent two years partying before going to college and lived with an acid dealer. I used to get home at around dusk from the beach and notice the lights would be out, paraffin candles would be lit and Irresistable Force, Aphex Twin or some other ambient music would be on the stereo. A few minutes later, giggly people with pupils the size of quarters would come out from hiding in the closet beckoning me little squares of blotter paper on the tips of their pinkies.

Damn good times! I had one bad trip (at the very first Furthur rave in Wisconsin in 1994). Some bastard was in an e-puddle and began giving away his entire stash, and I wound up going from zero to six hits in about twenty minutes. The bad trip was spent simply staring at a watch in a tent for about an hour--I've had indigestion worse than that.

It gets to the point where you live in acid consciousness even when you're not on it, but I've never had any side effects (I was even more twisted than this before...) It was a hell of a fun way to waste my youth.
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#47400 - 08/19/04 10:49 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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They say because of this bust that LSD is virtually unobtainable and has more or less passed off the face of the earth.




You haven't touched on the most insidious part of this. When kids talk about "drugs" today, they're either mentioning pot as an old stand-by or pharmaceutical drugs. I saw a report which tracked acid use at an all time low, and things like xanax and other prescription drugs at an all time high.

That's so fucked up for the future of this country. It really is.
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#47401 - 08/20/04 04:41 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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There's no way to really explain it. It sort of cleanses you mind of the normal cognitive "filters" through which you shape the world you experience. So you get this rush of pure unmediated sensory experiences. You hear things you've never heard, see significance in things you would never notice before, generally pick up on thousands and thousands of minute details that form a total and all enveloping mosaic of reality. Don't mean to sound New Agey here, but that's what it's like.

At smaller doses you start to see hallucinations, but they're more like "ambiguated perceptions" for lack of a better word. You look at the telephone cord dangling off the edge of a table, for example, and it looks like dangling vibrating jungle vine. You know it's not, but it looks like it. At higher doses, however, you can't tell the difference so you really have to be careful. One time I took 8 hits and I had this stucco wall pattern on the wall of my living room. I just stared at the wall for about two hours as Pizarro's conquest of the Incas played itself out. I shit you not, that's exactly what happened. Meanwhile I didn't even realize I knew that much about it. But as I was watching, I began to spontaneously "remember" every single thing I had read about the Incas. It was like the the normal access to the depths of my mind, which had been a pinprick, were now suddenly opened up to the size of the Holland tunnel and there was nothing stopping it.




Good explanation Zenman.

LSD in the right circumstances has the potential to be a very beautiful and engaging drug(at high doses, 10 to 50 of todays blotter hits).

However, I much prefer mescaline(peyote). For me it combines, and even surpasses, the insights of LSD, but has a much more euphoric tone. It's almost like taking LSD and ecstasy at the same time, candyflipping. It's more pure than that, but that's about the best I can express it.

Psilocybin(mushrooms, predominantly found in cow shit) is also a nice psychedelic. It's a bit cleaner than LSD, and I think more educational and inspiring if one takes enough.



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#47402 - 08/20/04 07:27 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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flashbacks are like free hallucinations
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#47403 - 08/20/04 09:49 PM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I don't look for it, but I've seen a bunch of geltabs a peripheral friend had in his box-o'-scheduled stuff. SUpposedly the strength of the dose these days is garbage compared to the days of the 70's when blotter was as common as toilet paper. I haven't touched a hallucinogen since probably freshmen year of college, although I tend not to trust people who have never done them once they're too much of a commitment though, still having tracers short of open-eye visuals at a lacrosse game from the afternoon before wasn't cool.

pharmies are boring, i get my 45mg of dexedrine daily which rarely gets taken unless i need to become robotic to write papers that are already late. any CNS stimulant just makes me think of school and I've got a pavlovian urge to poop just looking at cocaine. it was ridiculous at my high school though, there would literally be a line out the health-center door in the mornings waiting for ritalin, a total conveyor-belt of rich kids with absent parents.
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#47404 - 08/21/04 05:23 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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It's like anything else. On average the LSD today is less strong that the stuff from the 60's and 70's. But that doesn't mean that there isn't good stuff around.

The quality varies wildly, but the solution is to just take more. That is why you hear about people taking 5 or 10 hits at a time, instead of one.

But, if you take 50(half sheet) of todays LSD, you are in for a trip. 70's acid, 90's acid, doesn't matter. You're in for it.

A 10 strip of today's stuff will bring most newbies(98%) to their psychological knees.

On another note, the marijuana today is exponentially stronger than the marijuana of the 60's and 70's. The stuff your kids smoke today is barely even the same drug as the hippies smoked during the Viet Nam era.

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#47405 - 08/21/04 05:45 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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You're right about weed today compared to the 70s and 80s. I remember when people used to say "I smoked 5 joints last night, etc". 5 joints today would put you in suspended animation.
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#47406 - 08/21/04 09:38 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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Yup, I missed strong acid, seconal, methaqualone, etc. If your poison of choice is gear, you can't do better than Mass thanks to the immigrant port-cities of New Bedford, Lowell and Lawrence. 80% and greater purity is routine here, you're lucky to get half that on the west coast since it's an entirely columbian trade up here. now you can potentially throw your life away without those pesky needles, lol.
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#47407 - 08/21/04 09:47 AM Re: LSD recipe for the experienced acidnaut
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I guess that's the way the market handles illegal substances. If you're going to risk a few decades in prison, the product should be as potent (expensive) as you can make it. I hear said that during Prohibition alcoholic beverages were much more potent, approaching pure alcohol, in fact.
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