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I watched Obama at the Republican caucus.



So then how do you still have the same ignorant belief that the Republicans don't "want to do anything to work towards solutions to the problems the Republicans created in the last decade?" That was a major theme of that conference. Obama went so far as to try to say he never said anything like you're saying, even though he did: Click

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Obama was trying to drive the Republicans away from the shit explained in the article.



And, the Republicans were trying to drive him away from it also. See the example I linked to just above.

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He also said what I said about how providing more health care will have to cost more. That's why I said it, he said it after some Republican claimed they could cover everybody and reduce cost.



I wouldn't necessarily believe anything a politician says. You've got to put more effort in it than that. They're just talking shit trying to get you to vote for them. You haven't noticed how many of the promises Obama made that he's just not keeping? Everybody does it, Obama has just done it more. One of my favorites Obamaisms is where about a month ago, when the public option failed, Obama said he never campaigned on the public option. But then all kinds of documents and video began to surface..

The reason you're hearing that about it having to cost more out of a lotta Democrats mouths these days is because it was in defense of their bill which implemented no cost controls.

Despite what Obama say, health care can be reformed such that we spend less on health care:



Source: Click

Note that that study was published in Dec. '08. What Obama's plan during his campaign is no longer consistent with that monstrosity of a bill they were about to pass. Not that that's bad, it's just that the plan changed.

And, what they call Wyden/Bennet in that table is the Healthy Americans Act. Ron Wyden and somebody Bennett were the two senators who originally proposed the bill.

I gave you links to very easy to read articles from a web site who's bias is much like you're own so you had the opportunity to educate yourself and not just run around dogmatically repeating whatever a politician tells you. Why didn't you do that?

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It doesn't say that's their only secret to success. If you can't understand the article, STFU.



I like how you jump all over a small, simple exaggeration of mine but somehow manage to ignore the broad based ignorant distortions in that article. It's similar to how the articles bitch about obfuscatory tactics Republicans use, while the article does the very same thing.

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Here's an example - in the last election in Ohio, there was an initiative on the ballot to establish a state animal cruelty board and give them enforcement powers.



Yes, there are lots of ways issues get obfuscated in politics. Your example probably is one of them.



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