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#473122 - 01/27/10 08:40 PM
Re: The iPad: An unfortunately named product
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AC Cream Wannabe
Registered: 03/14/06
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I do a lot of reading on mobile devices, including an iPhone screen. Having more real estate to view content on, while keeping all of the current iPhone OS and AppStore (and hopefully Cydia) advantages makes it a unique device for the class it is in. I really would enjoy reading longer articles or items on a larger screen. It will be interesting to see the kinds of apps that start getting written with the larger screen specifically in mind.
Lot of criticism out there today post-launch from people who never intended to buy it with the leaked details. My biggest complaint is that they pandered to the low end of the market by offering a version without 3G capability. In my opinion, every one of these should have had the 3G modem onboard, ready for the owner to insert a data-plan SIM card (or not). North America (and many other places) are fertile for a mass-market computing provider to offer a 3G-ready net device other than their smartphones. Sprint or someone had a 3G netbook with lame features, but it was the exception rather than the rule. Apple insisted on including onboard ethernet ports and usb jacks on the iMac (among other examples over their history, going back to the mouse on the original Mac), and that kind of base-model leadership would have been awesome for this suite of devices, but not doing so also lets them keep the entry-level pricepoint ~$100 lower.
Since the 3G SIM card is optional, wonder if that means the device is carrier-unlocked, unlike the iPhones?
I have been pondering doing an iPhone OS thread on here with summaries of neat tricks and apps, including (obviously) stuff for jailbroken phones. Not sure how much interest there would be, but I see a lot of porn people carrying iPhones in the photos posted.
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#473123 - 01/27/10 09:18 PM
Re: The iPad: An unfortunately named product
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Human Garbage
Registered: 04/02/09
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My first impression is that it is a total flop.
A couple of years ago, when the Kindle was new, there were many people arguing for the creation of exactly this product. Unfortunately for Apple, they listened to those people, and it is almost exactly the machine that these people were advocating, and that is why it will fail.
The only hitch in my prediction that it will be a total failure is the fact that Apple has so many devoted followers who will buy any product that Apple releases. Then there are the trendy, early adopters who don't really want or need such a device, but who will buy one anyway. So, my guess is that there will be an early spike in sales, it will be declared an overwhelming success by Apple and it will fade away and it will not be kept up to date as a viable product line.
When the first automobiles made their arrival on the scene, they were an inferior alternative to the horse drawn carriage in almost every measurable way. At first, some people saw the future potential in motorized vehicles while the majority of the population did not. The iPad is a pretty horse drawn carriage at the dawn of the automobile age.
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#473124 - 01/27/10 09:25 PM
Re: The iPad: An unfortunately named product
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/13/07
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The iPad is a pretty horse drawn carriage at the dawn of the automobile age.
It's just a bigger netbook. Those things are selling like flies.
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My biggest complaint is that they pandered to the low end of the market by offering a version without 3G capability.
They should have just made the 3G modem an external module with a compartment you can slide inside the thing. Not have it hanging out like those WiFi cards that always get broken, but actually has a compartment where it goes inside the machine. 3G is only going to be state of the art so long. 4G is already out in some cities.
And, pandering to the market is kind of how you make sells. The market is the people who buy your product.
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#473126 - 01/27/10 09:30 PM
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Gay For Pay
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#473127 - 01/27/10 10:39 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
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"And, behold!!! An iPad!!! And, He who bought it was called 'Faithful and True', and in righteousness He judges and wages wasteful war in Iraq." - the rambling felon who calls himself "Yhwh is Gracious" at the Padmus minimum-security facility.
[inside joke for Grumman]
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#473128 - 01/28/10 12:01 AM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/13/07
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Didymus, did you see that PBS documentary that said there was a province in between Egypt and Canaan called Ywh? And, that's where they think they got the name from? During guys travelling from Egypt to Canaan, they must have passed through that province... And yes, supposedly it was called that before they went through the province...
I didn't get the joke, whatever it was supposed to be... Who is the rambling felon? I ramble, but am no felon.
I'm close to finally, way after everyone else, deciding the Iraq war wasn't only mismanaged the 1st 3 years, but also just an unnecessary war. But, I don't know what you're supposed to do after the UN's passed ~10 resolutions over the last 12 years saying they have to open their country up to WMD inspectors, and they just laugh at them and kick the inspectors out. Do you just keep passing resolutions?
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#473130 - 01/28/10 03:42 PM
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Porn Jesus
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Hmmm ... thought you were a better study, but maybe I was being too obscure. The line is a "riff" from Revelations [19:11]. The name John originates in Hebrew with the meaning "Yhwh is gracious" and there is a school of thought that places John, the author of Revelations, in punitive exile on the isle of Patmos. [I used the intentional "sounds-like" jondra "Padmus" to deter Googlers]. And, I wasn't thinking at all of your position in the Iraq war but Bush's since he implied he was doing God's will and the rider bore the name "King of Kings/Lord of Lords" on his thigh, and I see it as a 21st century variant of the Crusades. Quote:
Didymus, did you see that PBS documentary that said there was a province in between Egypt and Canaan called Ywh? And, that's where they think they got the name from? During guys travelling from Egypt to Canaan, they must have passed through that province...
Didn't see it. If you have a name for it, I'll give it watch.
I tend to the camp that sees the name as a "future" variant of the verb "to be". Thus the line "tell them 'I AM'" when asked his name in Exodus.
But, I'm always open to new schools of thought.
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But, I don't know what you're supposed to do after the UN's passed ~10 resolutions over the last 12 years saying they have to open their country up to WMD inspectors, and they just laugh at them and kick the inspectors out. Do you just keep passing resolutions?
That's up to the UN. It was THEIR resolution. If they want to be a gutless, useless organization that is their choice. And, even if you feel the US should play unpaid "world policeman", I don't see why we had to go RIGHT THEN. Why not just continue the economic sanctions and, say, shame France & Russia for not acting over that time?
I'll never understand the rush. He wasn't going anywhere and had nothing that could impact say, Israel, let alone us.
I was very sure at the time that he had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and Al Qaeda. But, even I was surprised that he had no WMDs.
I always saw the bigger problem as Iran anyway. Saddam was toothless and never was going to be a threat to the United States. Iran is clearly a danger.
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#473131 - 01/28/10 04:35 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Hmmm ... thought you were a better study, but maybe I was being too obscure.
The line is a "riff" from Revelations [19:11].
I told you I rarely read that stuff. I mean to, but never get around to it.
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Didn't see it. If you have a name for it, I'll give it watch.
About that province Ywh, that was all they said, there was a province named that back then. Some other stuff that was interesting about archeology and what it said about the Exodus was interesting, but if you're gonna watch it, I don't want to ruin the big surprise.
It was an episode of Frontline called "From Jesus to Christ: The First Christians". I strongly recommend just doing a Season Pass on your DVR for Frontline and at least glancing at every episode to see if your interested. Same for Nova and American Experience, two other PBS documentary series.
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And, even if you feel the US should play unpaid "world policeman", I don't see why we had to go RIGHT THEN. Why not just continue the economic sanctions and, say, shame France & Russia for not acting over that time?
We're obviously not the world's police men. Plenty of sadistic governments we do nothing about. Only when it affects our own interests. The middle east is in our interests because of our addiction to oil. Without oil, our way of life gets decimated.
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I'll never understand the rush. He wasn't going anywhere and had nothing that could impact say, Israel, let alone us.
After 12 years of resolutions and sanctions where the guy still won't open up to inspections are you really rushing it?
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I was very sure at the time that he had NOTHING to do with 9/11 and Al Qaeda. But, even I was surprised that he had no WMDs.
No he had nothing to do with 9/11, but he did have to do with terrorist organizations. There were several terrorists taking refuge in his country that had contacts with Saddam, just as many other middle eastern nations do. What made Saddam different was the West's (not just Bush's, but the French and Russian intelligence agencies - forget the other countries that thought he had them - and Clinton bombing them in '98 because of this belief they had them) convinced belief he had WMD's. His support for terrorists, we know they terrorists want WMD's and we were sure Saddam had them. It was our awakening towards what terrorists were willing to do in 9/11 that made it a bigger issue.
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I always saw the bigger problem as Iran anyway. Saddam was toothless and never was going to be a threat to the United States. Iran is clearly a danger.
There hadn't been a decade of resolutions against Iran. Even now that they've admitted they're working to get them, has the UN made any resolutions yet? If they have, it hasn't been over 10 years. And, Iran's building those nukes deep inside caves, because they know, given the chance, Israel will eventually bomb those installations with US support. If Iraq had been as simple as bombing there WMD installations, we would have just done that. But, it wasn't.
That said, especially now that the damage to our economy with the deficit is so apparent, I do wish they had negotiated their way out of it. Just after over a decade of trying that way, I don't know that there was a way.
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#473133 - 01/28/10 10:54 PM
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Gay For Pay
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Yes. If you're doing UN resolutions, you have to wait until you convince the UN to do something, ala Bush senior.
You're putting a lot of emphasis on the idea that we're not the UN. And, we're not. But, that's not the point. The UN was just the vehicle we used to try to improve our hand in negotiations. That there were UN resolutions just shows that there were tremendous previous efforts to negotiate the WMDs out of Iraq. Not that UN resolutions were handed down from god or anything. Just that if you were going to get WMD's out of Iraq via negotiations (or at least inspections), we tried that - extensively.
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There was no dire threat to our country. Especially since we were already busy with one war.
Yeah, that's the question. Rather than type a bunch of shit that's not gonna change anybody's mind, I'll just think about it.
Part of my problem is I'm not convinced he didn't have them. And, that's definitely a minority opinion. We know he had them at one time, he used them in the late 80's. Why would he deny inspections AND get rid of them? If you're going to deny inspections, why wouldn't you just keep them? And, I remember there were a couple of ABC reporters who came back with a bunch of evidence they'd moved the WMD's to Syria just before the invasion.
If terrorists could get there hands on WMD's, knowing what happened on 9/11, you don't think they use them on us?
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#473134 - 01/29/10 03:07 PM
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 04/14/06
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The UN was just the vehicle we used to try to improve our hand in negotiations.
Not to me. The UN is a mostly useless debating society that is only useful when there is consensus, as Bush I got.
If our national security was threatened, there is no requirement to go to the UN to "authorize" an attack.
But, Bush II went to the UN. And, he couldn't convince them to act. Honestly, he didn't convince me either. But, once you go to the UN and they say no, you're just a vigilante on your own.
The authority to invade because of the resolution ONLY comes from the body that enacted the resolution. That is the reason those responsible for the war had to imply that Saddam could hurt us, which was bull. Saddam had no reach outside his own neutered dictatorship. And, he certainly had no missile that could reach us.
Turns out the UN was right to wait.
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Why would he deny inspections AND get rid of them?
You want logic out of a person who killed long time friends and members of his own family?
The reasons expressed are that he got rid of them once his military was impotent to avoid preemptive Israeli attacks.
BUT, he didn't want this concession to become public knowledge, especially to those in the Arab world who worshiped him as their "maverick' and those in his own country who feared use against them.
He viewed allowing inspectors as a violation of his sovereignty. Are there inspectors looking for h-bombs in Israel? He seems to have believed that if he destroyed them the same intelligence people who knew he made and maintained WMDs would easily discern that he destroyed them. Thus, the only reason for the inspectors from his crazy warped perspective was to harass him.
But the true reasons ... who knows ...
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#473135 - 01/29/10 07:52 PM
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Bukkake Boy
Registered: 06/13/06
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The UN blah blah Arabs blah Israelis BLAH BLAH BLAH WHO CARES NUKE THEM ALL. The iSanitaryNapkin is stupidly named, I hate touchscreen keyboards cuz they dirty the screen with smeared fingerprints, plus Apple fanbois are  KTHXBAI, pinupmutant
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#473136 - 01/29/10 07:55 PM
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Registered Sex Offender
Registered: 12/16/08
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Yup. After 10 years of war with Iran, we pulled Saddam's credit. Iran knew that, but didn't know what weapons he had. We didn't want Iran to take over more territory and oil, so we had to take the country, and sell it to China and Russia. Didn't they get all the oil deals?
Best thing we could do is pull out of there and let them all fight amongst themselves. Then they wouldn't have enough time to cause terror over here.
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#473137 - 01/29/10 09:19 PM
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Gay For Pay
Registered: 01/13/07
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That is the reason those responsible for the war had to imply that Saddam could hurt us, which was bull. Saddam had no reach outside his own neutered dictatorship.
Did you miss what happened on 9/11? And no, using that as an example does not mean Saddam had anything to do with the 9/11 attack.
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You want logic out of a person who killed long time friends and members of his own family?
Yeah, I thought of that later. Trying to nail him down like that isn't a good idea. Was just something I threw up there quick.
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