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Well all i can say is I am not a liberal, I've just grown sick of politics and my fomer party...



Most Democrats aren't liberals. I posted that poll earlier in this thread that shows only 20% of the nation is liberal.

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I feel the Repugs have become mentally unhinged and are now insane...



I hear that a lot from people who think they know about politics, but are really just propagandists. They think because they used to blindly follow one party, but now blindly follow the other party that that means they are independent. It shows a small level of thinking above Oprah Winfrey who refused to let anyone but Obama on her show, but is just them picking a different horse to root for and gamble on. It's not really looking at how complex and fascinating history is.

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the real Boner-fide reason Mccain lost was the entire Sarah Palin fiasco.



Yeah, Palin was stupid. Going into the party conventions, McCain was only a point and a half behind in the national polls. But, McCain was convinced he was gonna lose, and was gonna do any desperate thing to hood-wink independents into getting excited about his campaign. He saw how excited the populace was about a young upstart who had no idea what he was doing and said, "hey, Palin's one of those!!".

When his first crazy idea about getting Lieberman as his vice-president was summarily rejected, he want to crazy idea plan B. And because she's as much a right wing nut-case as all the people who were livid about Lieberman, they were like "Yeah!!!!". But, McCain himself wanted to swoon the independents, not the right wing nut-jobs.

If McCain would have picked Guilliani, I can't imagine he would have lost. You look at the smooth and naive youngster Obama who's never accomplished anything in politics other than getting himself elected. And, his VP, the blabber mouthed Biden. So, you got those two fruit loops vs. two distinguished statemen who have fought for controversial ideas that have succeeded, I can't imagine the people wouldn't have eventually come to their senses and voted for the statesmen.

My whole theory about that campaign was that Obama was a fad that would pass and his numbers would go down like a hot air balloon. But then McCain picked Palin and she stole Obama's thunder. So, it's not until now, after he's president, that we see the Obama fad passing. Unfortunately, we're stuck with him for awhile.

But, if you wanna pick your political party based on how nutty the candidates are. How about Al Gore? He hid his goofiness until just after the election. At which point he ran around Florida jockeying for re-counts in only the districts he thought would benefit him. So much for fair elections. Gore turned that into a circus where you had to look at ballot under a microscope under varying rules. Then, he goes on to make a movie based on pseudo-science. Which winning a Nobel for only made the thing more obscene. The Nobel committee made their colors even more obvious later, when they gave Obama a Nobel that even he said he didn't deserve. These days, Gore travels the planet prostelyzing environmental issues. While at home, he lives in a mansion that eats more energy than some small towns and goes out on the lake in a giant, gas-devouring boat.

How about Kerry? This guy was the most liberal senator in Congress at the time, in a country where only 20% of us are liberal. He'd been in Congress 20 years and didn't have his name on a single major piece of legislation. John Stewart to this day calls him something like "long lips Kerry" because of his verbose, inability to communicate. The same thing he was called "the flipper" for in the campaign. Hell, the guy lost to an unpopular sitting president. And, let's not forget his decision to make a plank of his campaign his military service. When in reality, he just signed up because he knew he was gonna be drafted anyway. Then he used his privileged officer status to get the hell out of Vietnam as fast as he could. So then later, he decides to use that experience to convince people he should be president of the United States of America.

Palin was just exposed to the national scene too early. It's a lot of pressure. Possibly she wouldn't look like such a goof-ball if they'd left her in Alaska for another 10 years before bringing her on the national scene. And, not only did they bring her out too soon, but they didn't give her any time to prepare either.

Clinton was brilliant, but look at most Democratic candidates. One of our last 3 good presidents was a Democrat, and a conservative Democrat at that. Two of our last 3 good presidents were Republicans, Bush Sr and Reagan, and not very moderate ones at that.