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#467524 - 12/24/09 06:09 PM
Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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Porn Jesus
Registered: 01/02/05
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I have heard it expressed by other perverts at the monthly pervert meetings that, if a porn flick, gonzo in nature, were presented and it was made known that Holly Randall were the creative force behind the spectacle, it would almost be irrelevant who starred in the flick and what they did....knowing that HOLLY was holding the camera and instructing the immoral participants what to do, would, in and of itself, be enough to facilitate frantic rubbing of the genitals in a rapid up-and-down motion. it is my considered perverted opinion that Holly could single handedly rescue porn if she aggressively started producing high quality, holly randall brand filth. Of course, if she had a crippled marketing genius helping her out .....  Seriously folks, I want your opinion: Suppose Jules Jordan's exalted series "Feeding Frenzy" were produced, directed and introduced by our favorite pornographer, Holly Randall....dont you think it would add tremendously to the appeal (and in turn the $$$ and the strokeability of the final product?) I have not paid for porn (retail) for many moons, but if Holly started pumping out high quality filth, like her OWN series along the lines of Feeding Frenzy or Down the Hatch, I would. So why dont you Holly? 
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#467525 - 12/25/09 02:28 AM
Re: Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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Chronic Masturbator
Registered: 05/06/05
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You know I've never watched a single Jules Jordan video so I should probably do so before I go around proclaiming that I can do a better job than him. The guy's won lots of awards, compared to my-- hmm lemme see, um ZERO?-- so I'm going to assume that he's probably a better director than me. To be honest, my background, and thus my strength, is in photography, not video. I have only recently begun to treat the video market with the respect that it deserves and I'm really trying to improve. My webmaster is buying me a fluid head video tripod for Christmas so I'm excited to start working with that. I really want to invest in proper video lights too, but those are a fortune. I kinda dig the fetish g/g with Scar and Justine Joli that I shot (trailer is at the top of the page): http://www.hollyrandall.com/free/tour/niche/Smoking/Smoking.php?nats=MDowOjU but I know I have much room for improvement and a long way to go... but I am an eager student and a very hard worker, so I'll get there one day!  BTW this reminds me that I have to post about my new idea for an art project, called "Bukkakke Boys". I'm actually dead fucking serious about this and I think it will be funny, disturbing, disgusting, but most of all interesting...
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#467526 - 12/25/09 03:12 AM
Re: Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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Porn Jesus
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Well here, in a nutshell, is what Jules Jordan's Feeding Frenzy Series is all about, this scene features one your favorite actresses Holly, the unBOOBlievable Gianna Michaels....this is what ALL of Jules' Feeding Frenzy Scenes are like, they are all the same: Actress blows and gobbles the splooge of 5 meat mopes....the appeal is the simplicity of the spectacle, seeing new and different girls gobbling cum....if you dont see the appeal or find this even remotely erotic Holly, let me know so I wont harp on my point, but I still say if YOU directed stuff like this, you'd have momentum coming out of the gate the average male director doesnt have. http://www.spankwire.com/Gianna-Michaels-Suck-fest/video112423/
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#467532 - 12/26/09 12:09 PM
Re: Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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Christian reminds me of those sad losers who would go to an anthony robbins seminar and then would go to parties annoying all the guests playing the part of a life guru. I love you x but just because laura threw you a pity job making sure there is always a pot of coffee on and that theres paper in the printer doesnt mean you know how this business works, thanks for playing though.
Funny stuff! The difference of course is that I was successful BEFORE laura threw me my "pity job" and remember 42 people applied for that "pity job" that I got.
Also, I know more about this industry than 99 percent of the people out there. Let's not act like I don't have the pulse of this biz. But I like how you think that. It makes my success that much easier to sustain. 
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#467533 - 12/26/09 01:16 PM
Re: Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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Chronic Masturbator
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the problem Burg is that Gianna Michaels isn't going to do something like that for content or trade. Holly doesn't pay models, she does content trade shoots. Kinda tough to put together a Feeding Frenzy that way.
That's not entirely true-- yes I shoot mostly on trade since I splurge on the production costs, and my company is still young and small. I refuse to take out a line of credit or take money from investors so everything is hand to mouth for me. If there's a girl that I really want to shoot who has no use for trade content, then I pay her, but usually that's new girls only, since they're not overshot yet. I'm actually surprised at how many girls are happy to do trade, but I think it's because I really do my best to shoot beautiful stuff, I don't go over 10 hours, and I deliver the content web ready: photos are retouched, color corrected and video is edited. I also try to get them their stuff as fast as I possibly can. Also if I am able to sell a set to one of my major magazine clients (Hustler, High Society, Club, etc) then I can pay them a modest model fee depending on what the magazine pays me. Unfortunately, as we all know, that market is suffering so magazines are buying less content for less money and taking MUCH longer to pay.
Believe me, I would LOVE to be able to pay all the girls (at least for hardcore scenes) but I'm realistic and I don't want to overextend myself and end up deep in debt. I'm happy to grow slowly and see where this takes me-- hell I'm happy to be in business, unlike some of our fallen comrades...
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#467534 - 12/26/09 01:26 PM
Re: Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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NO.
Holly makes art. I can't stroke my cock to art. Not a single picture taken by Holly that I have seen has been filthy. They are beautiful but not filthy. When she photoshops the pictures so they look like cartoons they are not even that.
I would not buy a single new movie in the feeding frenzy line if Holly shot it.
I hear you, and thanks for the compliments (and the criticism, I suppose!). Honestly I really try not to over photoshop the girls, but some need it more than others. I am a perfectionist obsessed with flawlessness, so seeing stretchmarks or blemishes in a photograph drives me crazy. I am unable to photoshop my videos, though I will throw on a softening filter if the girl has bad skin.
But like Monica said, I think that my niche really is women/couples-friendly porn, and really I think I should probably stick with what I'm known for and good at, and let Jules Jordan rule the gonzo market. Not that I don't encourage my models to go crazy (actually I just shot a video with Nikki Benz and Puma for Suze.net where there was some serious cum gobbling going on) but as my mother always says: "A girl's got to look beautiful, even with cum all over her face!"
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#467536 - 12/27/09 05:18 AM
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Porn Jesus
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Holly will (and already has) expanded porn's audience. One of the key markets that needs to be tapped to "save porn" is the appeal of porn to women - and Holly's content does just that.
Holly might deem herself more of a photographer, but the best videographers are also photographers.
someone is trying to get a pity photo shoot me thinks, im sorry monica but your best chance rubbing a little dirt on your face, getting a pair of dusty jeans and a flannel shirt while pretending to be bukkake guy number 47. Which im sure is beneath you , so i suggest you find a watermelon to chop into or a greased chicken to lick off your fingers.
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Funny stuff! The difference of course is that I was successful BEFORE laura threw me my "pity job" and remember 42 people applied for that "pity job" that I got.
Also, I know more about this industry than 99 percent of the people out there. Let's not act like I don't have the pulse of this biz. But I like how you think that. It makes my success that much easier to sustain.
You had a leg in the door being you have dirt on her and are realiable, but you were hardly up against stiff (no pun intended) competition. You are heavily involved in the business but it doesnt mean you have a clue, thats obvious but a lot of the scenes you choose to do, where many people with half a clue know how it would impact their career prospects. I like you x because of your honesty, but you are destructive, clueless and mentally youre a child.
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#467539 - 12/28/09 01:43 AM
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Holly, have you thought of shooting music acts or bands? They throw money around because they have the disposable money. And this way you can get the press throughout the music industry and shoot more of them. This way you'll have the money to do what you want to in this industry.
Do you have a publicist? I only read about your free cam show late on this forum after it already aired & also at GenesisOnline.
I have actually thought about shooting musicians-- problem is I am so busy shooting porn it's hard to make extra time to try other things. I just got an office assistant which I think will help me out a lot, but I'm still training her. The thing is, I'm shooting for Suze.net, HollyRandall.com, Adam & Eve, and I'm trying to land a couple of shooting jobs for other companies. It's funny but the contacts I have in the music industry not only want me to shoot for free (which honestly I would be OK with at first to build my portfolio) but they also don't want to pay for any expenses. And I'm not paying out of pocket for something I have no way of making any money back on.
I don't have a publicist-- when I need to put out a press release, I just write it and send it out myself. There's no reason for me to pay someone to do something I'm perfectly capable of doing for free. I have spell check, a fairly good handle on grammar, and I have most of the bigger media contacts. Now if there is someone who can get me mainstream coverage, that's a different story...
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#467540 - 12/28/09 02:05 AM
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Sex Slave Trader
Registered: 06/06/09
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It's funny but the contacts I have in the music industry not only want me to shoot for free (which honestly I would be OK with at first to build my portfolio) but they also don't want to pay for any expenses. And I'm not paying out of pocket for something I have no way of making any money back on.
Wow I never expected that. Is it because you work in this industry and they think they can treat you like this? I always hear of so much money being thrown around in that industry and being so excessive.
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Now if there is someone who can get me mainstream coverage, that's a different story...
You need a scandal. Or go out and be seen more at the Ivy and show up half naked at red carpet events. Or swallow your pride and start hanging around Paris Hilton for a few minutes to get some publicity.
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#467541 - 12/28/09 10:04 PM
Re: Could Holly Randall Rescue Porn Industry?
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Porn Jesus
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Ahhhh fuck, I had a perfectly good, subtly perverted underhanded agenda here with this thread and along come some intellectual dildos(oes) to fuck things up.... I wanted Holly to click the Gianna scene and then start talking about how or what she would do differently, what she liked, disliked, etc. Those of us who have pretty much done every sexually deviant act we care to imagine would now have a NEW fantasy to jerk off to: picturing Holly watching gianna get splooged in her mouth by 5 mope dicks. I mean come on guys, HELLO?!?!?!? Isnt that fucking hott, in a indirect, almost metaphorical sense? Holly Randall, the most erotic woman in porn, watching pure filth and possibly even telling us she was turned on by it and what she would do differently? Look, Holly knows I think of her as a dear friend and intellectual peer, and I respect her as the stunning woman she is, even now that she has gone and married someone from England. I could never ever jerk off into her mouth (well, not without being married to her myself) so the closest thing I (or any of us who love Holly, and I KNOW I am not alone because, again, at the monthly Perverts meeting there is always a good 15-20 minute session devoted to "What Perverted Things I want To Do to Holly Randall's Pooper") will experience is imagining Holly watching this filth that the rest of us yank our weiners to furiously each and every day. I guarantee you Smelly Monkey got it, even though he hates my guts; he sees where I was going with this thread, and tried to non-cock block Christian's underhanded jab at Holly! Hey Christian, why dont u tell us something good, like WHO was the chick who passed out on Oxycontin while fucking you during a scene? We now return to our regularly scheduled Perversion. PS - Happy New Year Holly!!!! 
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