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#466972 - 12/21/09 01:46 PM
Someone owes child support
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#466974 - 12/21/09 06:17 PM
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I got lambasted once for posting Rebeca Linares' real name though it was public knowledge (on a Spanish site). Those interested in finding the real name can, like you, do a search and find it.
I think it's XPT protocol not to openly out the whores amongst us. Oblique outings are Ok.
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#466975 - 12/21/09 06:26 PM
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That's what you get for speaking Spanish...
Lesson learned?.
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#466976 - 12/21/09 06:45 PM
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Yeah, no more outing whores in any language.
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#466978 - 12/21/09 07:07 PM
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Heh... outing whores is frowned upon.
Then there's this place. Including whores and then excluding them. $
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#466981 - 12/21/09 07:19 PM
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Why isn't this deleted yet?
Well, OP meant well by covering the real name with the Tiger reference, though I would have also redacted the case number as well. Just in case.
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#466982 - 12/21/09 07:23 PM
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Why isn't this deleted yet? Just because it's on public record doesn't mean they want it out and known to all their potential stalkers & family members who might not know what they do for a living yet.
She means well but isn't she hot?. I'm busy this weekend and the next but maybe the First weekend of the new year we could meet, Avalon. If you're not back to sporting your laptop maybe I could put you on my lap- top?. 
What the hell has gotten into you?
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#466983 - 12/21/09 07:43 PM
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Why isn't this deleted yet? ...
I found it in the Huffington Post. Millions of would be stalkers and prudes have come across it by now.
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#466985 - 12/21/09 10:25 PM
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Not to mention AdultFYI.
You mean the home of the twelve-year-old obituary???
I think the secret is safe in those quarters.
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#466987 - 12/23/09 05:43 AM
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[On the other hand, whether or not the deadbeat mom wanted people to know about it is irrelevant, As a society, we've decided that shaming wrong- doers is the thing to do. If she was so concerned about her privacy, she wouldn't put herself in a position where her name would be out in a public forum.
Lets face it, she put herself into that position by interacting with Tiger Wood, not by her missing child support payments. Google her Tiger stories and practically every one of them contains her real name. Why?
Because any competent journalist, when writing about someone uses their real name! We can make fun of ADT all we want, but in this one respect XPT is exactly like ADT: hiding/censoring porn stars real names is absurd. By virtue of being porn stars they are *public figures*. Don't mean to be harsh, but anyone not getting that is living in a dream world.
IMO the "lets protect them from stalkers" argument holds no water. Hollywood starlets (many of them no richer than their porn sisters and thus no more able to afford security) have their real names plastered all over the place -- yet they somehow survive and thrive. In any event, the real, dangerous kind of stalker could easily enough find someone's real name without our help.
Lastly, and I think most important: by frantically hiding their real names (and by us abetting it) porn stars do themselves and their co-workers a huge disservice by branding their own profession and life choices as shameful. Just as all gays being out normalizes being gay, all porn stars being out will improve the lot of porn stars. 150 years ago being an actor of any kind was considered shameful in polite society. Now actors are looked up to. Porn stars are in control of their own destiny -- and by hiding they sabotage themselves. And by abetting them XPT is doing the profession harm as well.
I leave you with this thought: it is all about *your* attitude to having sex on screen. Chloe Sevigny looks at herself as a serious actress, thus so does the world -- giving an on screen blowjob didn't change that. Indeed hordes of celebutants have intentionally leaked their sex tapes as a stepping stone to MTV/VH1 reality shows. It's all in the attitude, and we here have the exactly wrong one.
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#466988 - 12/23/09 09:39 AM
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Because any competent journalist, when writing about someone uses their real name! We can make fun of ADT all we want, but in this one respect XPT is exactly like ADT: hiding/censoring porn stars real names is absurd. By virtue of being porn stars they are *public figures*. Don't mean to be harsh, but anyone not getting that is living in a dream world...
Hey, Luke? How's it goin' 
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#466989 - 12/23/09 05:05 PM
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I don't see the problem of using a real name if that person is charged with a crime, convicted of a crime or wanted and it's public record. It's when people are outed for malicious reasons that pisses me off...
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#466991 - 12/23/09 05:45 PM
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Because any competent journalist, when writing about someone uses their real name!
Those journalists might not realize the danger with naming a porn star and running their real names. Especially with female porn stars when it comes to their stalkers. But also because many in their family might not know what their son/daughter does for a living.
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#466992 - 12/23/09 05:46 PM
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Here's a thought. Don't want your name outed to the public domain? Don't do stupid shit that's against the law or to spite someone else. Paybacks are a bitch.
So tell us your real name then Eric considering Bree Olson took you to court because you wouldn't leave her alone.
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#466993 - 12/23/09 05:49 PM
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I don't see the problem of using a real name if that person is charged with a crime, convicted of a crime or wanted and it's public record. It's when people are outed for malicious reasons that pisses me off...
Because when it comes to porn, porn stars are treated more harshly by the public. So why subject their children and their family to harassment and stalkers?
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#466994 - 12/23/09 06:17 PM
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Do the crime do the time ! The person most responsible for protecting the ho's "good" name is the ho !!!
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#466995 - 12/23/09 06:35 PM
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So tell us your real name then Eric considering Bree Olson took you to court because you wouldn't leave her alone.
She did? I wouldn't?
I'm curious how big the bowl of shit-flavored Wheaties was you ate this morning to come to this malformed conclusion.
As usual, you're on top of the story, Diarrhea. Please tell us, what else do you know?
Even if that were "the story", Diarreah, which we know you're so well versed on, what makes you think I would give my own name here? Let her do it, or you can discover it on your own & out me? Fair enough?
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#466997 - 12/24/09 04:47 AM
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Because any competent journalist, when writing about someone uses their real name!
Not true. Journalists generally do *not* use real names when doing so would likely result in actual harm - stalkers outside her door, strangers calling her parents or sister at all hours, etc - and if it isn't necessarily to tell the news story. There are other cases: mob informants, underage kids, etc.
In cases where someone is known to the public by a stage-name then a journalist will always use that name, sometimes omitting the real name entirely (TV journalists rarely take the time to mention an unfamiliar real name unless it matters for the story; print journalists are more likely to do it).
When it comes to public figures the only categories that I know where newspapers have policy not to use real names are rape victims. However performers routinely have their real names stated, when an obvious stage name is being used -- example:
NY Times review of an Iggy Pop concert.
Any reference book about actors will always list their real names. The IMDB lists real names.
Certainly when the NY Times writes about a porn star they mention their real name: Example - their Savanna Samson article. (I tried Jenna Jameson, Ron Jeremy, etc. -- the Times always has the real name in the story.)
Unless you are equating porn performers with rape victims (which porn haters like Andrea Dworkin and Catherine McKinnon will be thrilled about), there is no reason to treat them differently from other actors or musicians. You trot out the stalkers again -- but I have seen no evidence that porn starlets are more susceptible to stalkers than Hollywood starlets. I know of mainstream actresses who were murdered or brutally attacked by stalkers -- Rebecca Schaeffer or Theresa Saldana, for instance. I know of no such porn chicks.
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#466998 - 12/24/09 04:16 PM
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The IMDB lists real names.
Not to be confused with the IAFD, these guys are REALLY bad at outing names of performers & occasionally directors in the industry. We don't even have a publicly listed birth name field, however, we maintain one on the admin side for 2257 recs in the event we need it (such as back when we posted boxcovers for movies).
Freeones.com is almost as bad, but on a more inadvertant level. I've seen some performer's birth names given in the alias category, when in fact they haven't done any documented movies under that name.
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#467000 - 12/24/09 05:26 PM
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Certainly when the NY Times writes about a porn star they mention their real name: Example - their Savanna Samson article. (I tried Jenna Jameson, Ron Jeremy, etc. -- the Times always has the real name in the story.)
The real famous porn stars eventually reveal their real names. Especially if they have out autobiographies. Ron Jeremy said his mother told him to change his name after groups of fans would show up at their home when Ron first started in the industry.
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I know of mainstream actresses who were murdered or brutally attacked by stalkers -- Rebecca Schaeffer or Theresa Saldana, for instance. I know of no such porn chicks.
We don't know. Maybe they never came forward about being abused because many then ask how can a porn star be raped. You have sex for a living and how is rape possible.  When anyone in the sex industry is abused, she wanted it and asked for it.
Gay porn star Mason Wyler was raped and beaten in his home at gunpoint. He even posted pictures of his face and body after on his blog. Many said he's lying, promiscuous, and his fault.
I know of many female porn stars who have been raped and abused by others in this industry. They haven't come forward ..... yet because they know what people will say. Stefani Morgan was raped by her boss Bill Asher and her own friends turned on her. Even Monique Alexander told the audience of a porn debate that she feels no sympathy for any of the women in this industry who fall on bad times or have bad experiences. She was the one passed out in the next room when Stefani was being raped. Stefani went into great detail of what he did to her and many still say she's lying.
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#467001 - 12/24/09 06:49 PM
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I know of many female porn stars who have been raped and abused by others in this industry. They haven't come forward ..... yet because they know what people will say. Stefani Morgan was raped by her boss Bill Asher and her own friends turned on her. Even Monique Alexander told the audience of a porn debate that she feels no sympathy for any of the women in this industry who fall on bad times or have bad experiences. She was the one passed out in the next room when Stefani was being raped. Stefani went into great detail of what he did to her and many still say she's lying.
But no examples of it actually happening by civilians, correct?
I think the 'rape' you define in the workplace would probably be more confined to sexual harassment laws. I'd have a hard time believing otherwise because most of these "business" minglings are actual relationships that end on a sour note.
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#467002 - 12/24/09 09:19 PM
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But no examples of it actually happening by civilians, correct?
I think the 'rape' you define in the workplace would probably be more confined to sexual harassment laws. I'd have a hard time believing otherwise because most of these "business" minglings are actual relationships that end on a sour note.
Mason Wyler was raped by a civilian. Someone claiming to be a fan. Mason went to the police in Texas and they treated him badly and also made him pay for his rape kit.
So Bill Asher anally raping Stefani Morgan was a relationship that ended on a sour note?
Why do the women, who can afford it, bring security with them when they travel and dance? There must be a reason like former porn stars being attacked after leaving their shows. They have sex on camera and many people assume they'll have sex with anyone just because of their job. We don't know how many have been attacked.
I was once watching one of Luke Ford's videos and he was interviewing this blonde and she said how she was kidnapped months earlier. Luke said he never heard of it and she said it was on the porn websites. But she looked upset and about to cry once she started talking about the kidnapping and didn't want to talk about it anymore. I assume it was a fan. Anyone remember her name and who I'm thinking of?
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#467003 - 12/24/09 09:37 PM
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Did you know that Darrah was raped by Randy West but since it was discovered that Randy had been in the porn biz for over thirty years it was hushed up.
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#467006 - 12/25/09 06:58 PM
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Mason Wyler was raped by a civilian. Someone claiming to be a fan. Mason went to the police in Texas and they treated him badly and also made him pay for his rape kit.
This seems like more of an issue with his faggotry than him being a "porn star". Next.
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Why do the women, who can afford it, bring security with them when they travel and dance?
I dunno, why does the general manager of Piere's, one of the midwest's top rock clubs, have a 400lb body guard with him at all times? Is he afraid of getting raped, too?
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I was once watching one of Luke Ford's videos and he was interviewing this blonde and she said how she was kidnapped months earlier.
Whores lie. Much like many of them fall back on the "stalking" reference when confront by a person or issue with whom they don't agree.
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